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We should add wikidata labels of Butch and Femme

We should add missing labels to Butch (d:Q30072520) and Femme (d:Q28129894). We can extract these labels from butch and femme (d:Q852338)

Tilda Swinton

Over at Talk:List_of_people_with_non-binary_gender_identities#RFC_about_Tilda_Swinton there's a discussion about including Swinton with non-binary people. Feel free to join the discussion. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 13:44, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia community needs you!

Did you know that Wikipedia doesn't protect against LGBT discrimination or hate speech? It could however! I just worked with a few others to create a proposal for this, which could become enwiki policy and hopefully, later on, a rule community-wide.

The first step is mostly done – creating the proposal. What's needed is some positive, friendly, approachable messages – for the RfC, for spreading on WikiProjects and other venues, and a user-friendly FAQ for it. Then we just have to get the momentum moving toward implementation.

As well, any feedback you all could give would be immensely helpful at this stage!

This issue is important - as a starting base, this New York Times article shows why. Incidents like the Signpost Humor article controversy show the necessity for the policy, while Fram's WMF ban shows the necessity for transparent, community-developed processes rather than relying on WMF judgement.

If you have any questions or are happy to help, please email me!

Thank you! –ɱ (talk) 15:26, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ɱ, Seems similar to Wikipedia:Discrimination (evidently a failed proposal). Maybe the two pages should be merged? Edit: I see this one mentions that one. If this passes it should probably be redirected to this. Adam9007 (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes this helped me with ideas for the current NDP draft! I don't believe it was ever formally proposed, received sufficient feedback, or was voted on. Will hope to redirect that title if this passes. ɱ (talk) 16:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support adoption of Wikipedia:English Wikipedia non-discrimination policy We as the Wikimedia community need to reform our practices, and to do that, we should adopt policies to inform those practices. I like the idea of implementing a non-discrimination policy as a way to inform the conversations we have about what we should accept and what we reject or question. Lots of organizations have non-discrimination policies so if we as a community adopt one, there would be nothing unorthodox about it and also I think doing so would make for a friendlier environment and more efficient decision making. If anyone has ideas on improving this then I would like to hear comments and criticism. I do various projects on moderation on Wikipedia and having a policy like this would help me explain to collaborators how to make quick decisions about contributing in our unusually diverse community. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wording of Woman article's lead

A conversation which may be of interest to this WikiProject:

Talk:Woman#Proposed_edits_to_lede

WanderingWanda (talk) 19:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is now an RfC about this: Talk:Woman#RfC: Article lead

Two distinct questions here:
Is there a need to discuss gender identity or the gender/sex distinction in the lead of this article?
--and--
Does the current lead spend undue length discussing transgender and intersex women?

WanderingWanda (talk) 02:23, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of "The Kingdom in the Closet" from The Atlantic on the reliable sources noticeboard

The reliability of "The Kingdom in the Closet", by Nadya Labi from The Atlantic, is being discussed on the reliable sources noticeboard. This article was previously cited in the LGBT in the Middle East article. If you're interested, please participate at WP:RSN § The Kingdom in the Closet by Nadya Labi. — Newslinger talk 00:11, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:POTD/2019-10-28

Could people review this? I think it's important we get this right, and I want to make sure we educate people about intersex people - especially on Intersex Awareness Day - but have to navigate a bit of a minefield related to things such as the photographic series using an obsolete term as its title. Of course, it might get pulled from the mainpage, WP:NOTCENSORED or no, but I want to get it right. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 13:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Pride art + health writing contests extended to July 31!

We are extending the Art Contest with the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Health Contest for Wiki Loves Pride to July 31! We've created a custom artwork article draft generator for LGBT artists in the Met collection, as well as tools to ease translation (including into English). This is all in addition to the Wiki Loves Pride photography contest.--Pharos (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to encourage all the good editors here to join Wiki Loves Pride/2019/Art, which has art book prizes and perhaps not as much competition as you might think. We also have a custom tool to start article drafts for works by LGBT artists that you are very welcome to make use of.--Pharos (talk) 14:21, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of double Venus flag in LGBT symbols on the reliable sources noticeboard

There is a discussion on whether the double Venus flag should be included in the LGBT symbols article on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § Getty Images. — Newslinger talk 23:06, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For separate discussion in LGBT symbols Talk page about deleting the Lesbian Pride rainbow flag (i.e. Double-Venus flag) from the article: Talk:LGBT symbols#Double-Venus flag. Pyxis Solitary yak 08:57, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Queens at Heart

I've recently created the article Queens at Heart, a pre-Stonewall look at some trans women living in New York, and have started the process for a WP:DYK. I invite others to look at the article and make improvements they see fit before it (hopefully) goes on the main page. Also if you have better ideas for a hook for Template:Did you know nominations/Queens at Heart, I'd appreciate those as well. Also, while WP:Notability (film) does say The film was given a commercial re-release, or screened in a festival, at least five years after initial release., I'm wondering if perhaps someone might find reason to delete the article. I've found as many sources as I could, but if you know of additional sources that would be great as well. Thanks! Umimmak (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on nude image of intersex person for main page

Opinions from members of this WikiProject would be appreciated in this discussion on Talk:Main Page. – WanderingWanda (talk) 17:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FA transgender persons

Hi, are there any FA or, if not, GA articles about transgender persons? I am looking for precedent to use at Talk:Stephanie Hirst#Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 July 2019, where a person claiming, I believe honestly, to be the article's subject is requesting that any mention of her birth name be removed because of the personal distress it is causing her. Any project guidance on how to handle this would also be welcome. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 14:34, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chelsea Manning and Caitlyn Jenner are both GA. I do not know of FA articles about trans people yet. You are likely familiar with this policy already, but I did not see it mentioned on the Stephanie Hirst Talkpage, so just in case, see MOS:MULTIPLENAMES, which relates to situations like this.--MattMauler (talk) 15:18, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sonny Kiss

Apparently, Sonny Kiss, a a trans male wrestler of AEW is deleted. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback requested at Talk:Gay pride

Hello. Your feedback would be appreciated at this discussion at Talk:Gay pride. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PRIDE Act

  • Jagoda, Naomi (July 24, 2019). "House passes bill to update tax code to help same-sex married couples". The Hill. Retrieved July 26, 2019.
  • LeBlanc, Paul (July 25, 2019). "Pelosi celebrates the Pride Act passing the House as 'long-overdue justice'". CNN. Retrieved July 26, 2019.

I was going to create a stub, but probably too soon?Zigzig20s (talk) 03:13, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deadname in reference to bio article

I discovered an article that referenced a person's bio article by its deadname, "... was done by Joe Smith", where "Joe Smith" linked to the "Jane Smith" page. This seemed wrong to me, but my edit to change it to "Jane Smith" was reverted, and I've been on a long discussion with the editor who did it on the talk page. I'm hoping someone here can give me some guidance on how to proceed, or if I should give up on this, or what.

MOS:CHANGEDNAME has a statement that implies that deadnaming is Wikipedia policy: "they should be referred to by the name they were using at the time of the mention". MOS:GENDERID is ambiguous "Use context to determine which name or names to provide on a case-by-case basis". The Recommendations section that follows is more nuanced, but seems not to be a policy. I did suggest doing what MOS:GENDERID shows for The Matrix as a way to accommodate, but that isn't flying.

So the question I'm trying to lawyer out here is whether policy actually requires deadnaming in this case. And if not, how do I show this? --Kcrca (talk) 16:34, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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