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Again, welcome! Chris Roy 17:54, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Fairstone

No issues with that at all; thank you. Nate • (chatter) 03:01, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Nate. I'll update your reply on the talk page, for the public record of the move discussion. Doug Mehus (talk) 22:34, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing and Canadian Tire Financial Services RM

Hi Doug, I'd suggest reading the guideline at WP:CANVAS. Posting in unrelated RM discussions to say "please support my RM from X → Y" as you did here and here would be frowned on, both because it's not the right place, and because notifications should be neutral, rather than cajoling readers to vote a specific way. I would also be cautious about singling out specific users to invite to an RM - if there's any appearance that you're selectively notifying users that you think will be favourable to your hoped-for outcome, that can also present a problem. It's usually better to just let editors find the RM naturally. If you're really worried about low turnout, I recommend posting a (neutral) notice on a related wikiproject (such as WikiProject Canada in this case). Hope that helps. Colin M (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Colin. I hadn't realized such canvassing was discouraged. I'd only aimed to establish a positive rapport with BarrelProof and Trillfendi by showing them that, despite past disagreements vis-a-vis support/opposition on RMs, AfDs, or Wikipedia policies, that I can still be neutral in supporting their own RM (as applicable). Hope that makes sense.

Several follow-up questions for you to "pick your brain"...

  1. How come the WikiProject Personal Finance and Investment wasn't notified of the RM for President's Choice Financial -> PC Financial like Canadian Tire Financial Services->Canadian Tire Bank was? Is there some sort of coding that needs to be added? I can't seem to manually add it to WikiProject Personal Finance and Investment like I did with WikiProject Canada.
  2. In the PC Financial case, in a case where 1 supports (perhaps strongly) and 1 is a weak oppose, is it possible consensus could be determined as in favour?
  3. When you make/propose page move/merge decisions, how do you personally decide whether to be be bold and just make the move or initiate a discussion? WP:BRD seems to encourage the former, but part of me thinks it's better to have a discussion. Any insight appreciated. Doug Mehus (talk) 23:51, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  1. You're talking about the listing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance & Investment/Article alerts, right? Looks like the PC Financial RM has been posted there now. I think it didn't show up immediately because the page only updates once a day, not in real time.
  2. Sure, it depends on the individual closer and how they read the strength of the arguments. I'd say it's more likely in that case for the would-be closer to relist the discussion to get more input. If it were closed in that state, I think 'No consensus' would be the most typical outcome, but it very much depends on the specific circumstances.
  3. That's a great question. The calculus of WP:BRD is a little different in the case of page moves, because, unlike with normal edits, reverting a page move isn't as easy as just clicking a button (especially for those without the page mover flag). I would tend to err on the side of doing an RM. If it does turn out to be uncontroversial, then it's not going to take up a lot of people's time (especially if you make a good case for the move in the nom, and provide the relevant data - pageview stats, ngrams, etc. - so editors don't have to do too much research themselves). i.e. if people think it's clearly a good move, they might just write something terse like "Support, per nom". And similarly, it would be easy for the closer to assess consensus. Another thing you can do if you're on the fence about whether a move requires the RM process is post an informal notice to the talk page, saying you're thinking of renaming the article to X. If you don't get any response after a week or so (or all responses are supportive), that's a pretty good indication that the move is uncontroversial. Though that only really works if the article isn't too obscure, and has a decent number of editors watchlisting it. Colin M (talk) 17:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Primary Topic

Hi

very interested in this edit.

I strongly agree with the sentiment. But IMO the problem is not so much the naming of DABs. The problem is, it's just asking for trouble to have any article at an ambiguous name, Primary Topic or not. A related problem is, we don't have a good definition of Primary Topic anyway (in the sense we use the term, it's a Wikipedia neologism, although it does have an unrelated meaning in linguistics).

I've been putting a lot of research into this... I'll post a link here, but the latest update of Windows 10 has made my computer slower, file explorer difficult to use, and most relevantly, Google Chrome unstable, so I'd better publish this before I lose it. Watch this space but comments meantime welcome. Andrewa (talk) 22:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

October 2019

Information icon Hello, I'm Me-123567-Me. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Motusbank have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Thanks. Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CORPSPAM

You might have read this essay I wrote - but if not, take a look, I think you'll like it :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, Piotrus. Will try and read it on the weekend as it looks interesting. I used to think every company should have a Wikipedia article, but I don't think that's the case anymore. People treat Wikipedia articles as some sort of imperative because Google uses the data in their infoboxes in search results, but unless people want to take the time to write articles that are at least 1 page single-spaced, I tend to think you're right. I appreciate your supporting my Canadian-focused AfDs. Interesting no one proposed these deletions till now. I see you added a redirect WP:CORPSPAM to your essay...I didn't know that (a) we were allowed to do that (guess we just use the Wikipedia namespace?) and (b) write essays, but that's cool. Doug Mehus (talk) 04:35, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We are allowed to do pretty much everything that's not forbidden. You can write Wikipedia:User essays, through the one I linked to is actually something I published in the Wikipedia 'newspaper' Wikipedia:Signpost, lots of interesting material in it. And we can create Wikipedia-namespace redirects just like normal ones. Worst case they end up in WP:RFD :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:53, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks. How do you get published in the Signpost? Have a look at my Rogers Bank proposed deletion. Delete or merge? Also, I used the Wikipedia:PROD process to delete two some implausible redirects someone created (DirectCash Bank and General Bank of Canada). They literally just redirect to a Wikipedia template page. Did I cite the right reasons? Doug Mehus (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions. Also, for prods, I recommend making sure you have an edit summary with "article prodded because [reason]" or just prodded even. The point is, few months later you can use the tool you have at the bottom of your contributions page to check your edits for things with a particular edit summary and see what wasn't deleted (deleted entries want show in search). I have recently begun the project of reviewing 1000+ entries I prodded in my 10+ years here that survived, to see what needs to be AfDed. Sometime the creator will just deprod things and you wont realize it until you check. FYI to speed things up I have my own standardized copy and paste prod and AfD templates you can see here: User:Piotrus/Templates. You can create such pages as you want in your sandbox (userspace), also there are many gadgets and tools to make various technical things easier (check Preferences / Gadgets for example, and there's a ton of other stuff at Wikipedia:User scripts if you like 'customizing' your account'. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:24, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Piotrus, Ah, good idea, I've been copying and pasting into the address bar of a new web browser tab, but it's kind of cumbersome. Very useful. I just realized that I added a WP:Notability tag to the Langara College page. As a distance education student, would that be considered a conflict, no, or would it be very minor? On the one hand, I'm trying to objectively note that the article needs major improvement. Also, from my initial look, it and most of the B.C. public colleges seem to fail WP:NORG. I see schools are except from WP:CSD, so that's a no go, but wondering how often you've seen public colleges have their pages deleted? Am I off-base here, or no? It just reads like blatant spam. Doug Mehus (talk) 03:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Piotrus, Re PRODs, yeah, I don't usually use them because people will remove them often. But if they're successful, do they count to your deletion track record? What about AfDs, who gets "credit" for the deletion, the proposer or the admin/non-admin closer? Doug Mehus (talk) 03:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about such WP:COI, as long as you are not being paid for what you edit, it's a non-issue. Seriously, should (for example) Christian editors declare COI when editing Christianity-related pages? As for schools and such, recommended reading is WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and the entire page it is on, for a nice overview of some topics. I am not aware of any good way to track 'successful' prods, if you ever find about it do let me know (could as at WP:VP somewhere, or at WT:PROD). I am honestly not sure what you mean by credit for AFDs. I think there are some tools that keep stats for those but I am also not aware of them off the top of my hand, again, let me know if you find out and you can ask about it at VP again or at WT:DELETE or such. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:51, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Basran

Please do not unlink articles while they are at AFD, as you did with this one. This should only be done if/when the AFD closes as delete. (If the AFD closes as keep, you ought to revert your edits.) SD0001 (talk) 17:21, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SD0001, Okay, thanks. I strongly suspect it will pass with a delete or strong delete, but I take your point. I jumped the gun. Sorry about that. Doug Mehus (talk) 17:22, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Hello. Thanks very much for the Barnstar that you posted on my Talk Page! Much appreciated! Thanks, also, for your kind words. I also appreciate your input at the Talk Page of the Tate murders article, where I had proposed renaming the article to the Tate-LaBianca murders. Finally, thanks for fixing that reference error message. It was driving me crazy. I tried to find the source of the error, but I was unable to. It really drove me nuts. I am glad that you were able to find it and to fix it. Thanks so much! Best, Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph A. Spadaro, No problem for the Editor's Barnstar, for commenting on your previously unaddressed merger proposal at Tate murders, and for fixing the named reference error. :) Doug Mehus (talk) 21:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bank of America Canada

Thought I'd take this to your talk page. Something has to be done with the business articles on Wikipedia. A lot of them are just ads for the business in question. Listing products they make and how wonderful they are. I could just start doing mass prods and deletions but I've done that in the past with computer games and made a whole bunch of people mad. It's pretty much the same thing over at AfC, honestly I get tired of citing WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS and Wikipedia isn't a directory nor your advertisement destination location. I'm not entirely sure where to go from here, it's rather exasperating. Whispering(t) 00:13, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pinehouse Photography Club

Good day and sorry for bothering you. You seem like you know quite a bit in regard to Wiki. I dont know really what to do with the page. I was told by the one user I cant edit or make any changes because of potential COI. I tried posting it on some edit pages for possible rewording and so forth. Do you have any suggestions? What would you do in my situation? Thanks again for your time! --Dreerwin (talk) 14:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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