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He went to a Super Bowl but is not a Super Bowl Champion. It lists him as one. 173.69.139.120 (talk) 02:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Super Bowl XLVIII? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Article is correct as written. —C.Fred (talk) 03:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
6x Pro Bowls
Wilson is a 6 time Pro Bowler as of the 2018 season, as corroborated by this source: https://www.seahawks.com/news/russell-wilson-named-to-2019-pro-bowl
The discrepancy lies with 2014. He was retroactively credited with a Pro Bowl that season due to his Super Bowl appearance not allowing him to participate.
aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 02:47, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Should that be mentioned in the prose somewhere? Either in the 2014 section, or in the intro to the article with a line like "Wilson has been selected for the Pro Bowl six times, including a retroactive selection in 2014, when he could not participate because he played in the Super Bowl"? —C.Fred (talk) 14:10, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- I should clarify the "retroactively" part was my own addition and I'm not 100% sure that's actually the case. The Seahawks Media Guide in every iteration since 2015 does list Wilson as a Pro Bowler for the 2014 season. I do think it should be added to the 2014 season section though. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 16:53, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- ...who cares if that's from there? It could be very well a typo or a mistake. I wouldn't trust it much at all. I checked the Pro Football Reference. Go to there. He was never selected for the 2014 Pro Bowl. Simple. The Gamer 91 (talk) 17:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Literally Joe Flacco had a similar occurrence that year. He was named a replacement player, but couldn't go. It doesn't matter for your article if it's not official. "Players must have accepted their invitations as alternates to be listed; those who declined, such as Joe Flacco and Philip Rivers, are not considered Pro Bowlers" The Gamer 91 (talk) 17:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- PFR's database doesn't include the 3rd criterion. I contacted their bugs department last week and they're correcting it. Also PFR is not an official NFL source. I listed 3 below which override PFR's database. Thanks. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 17:11, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Can you get someone else to confirm this with you? Maybe someone on a higher level, cause it seems like you are the only one defending your point. I'm not sure if I can believe you or not on this one, since the Seahawks article isn't really trustworthy to me. The Gamer 91 (talk) 17:24, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
The number of pro bowls is incorrect.
Russel Wilson has made 5 pro bowls including this year as a starter/ reserve/ alternate. He never made the pro bowl in 2014. Can somebody fix that error, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shogun902 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Wilson did earn a Pro Bowl berth in 2014 as an alternate who could not attend due to the Super Bowl. It is a rare exception to the "alternate who participates" rule. Can be verified in the 2018 Seahawks Media Guide on page 153. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 02:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Here are several official sources that credit Wilson with 6 Pro Bowls, including one for 2014:
- https://www.seahawks.com/news/russell-wilson-named-to-2019-pro-bowl ("6th Pro Bowl honor")
- http://www.nfl.com/static/content/public/static/pdf/media-guides/SEA-Media-Guide.pdf (p. 153 lists 5 Pro Bowls, including 2014)
- https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsb59B0g9eZ/ (6th Pro Bowl, via official NFL instagram)
- Furthermore, the NFL's Communications Coordinator confirmed to me that there are three ways to be considered a Pro Bowler: Original selection, alternate who participates in the game itself, or alternate who would have been chosen to participate but couldn't attend due to the Super Bowl. This was via email exchange though so I can't include it as a source here.
- I understand if people disagree, but the official sources all say 6 Pro Bowls. So that's what we'll go with. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 17:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- If that's the case, list Russell Wilson on the 2014 Seahawks season, and the 2015 Pro Bowl, because they do NOT include him there. The Gamer 91 (talk) 17:12, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Get someone else to confirm the # of Pro Bowls.
Can you get someone else to confirm this with you? Maybe someone on a higher level, cause it seems like you are the only one defending your point, and trying to be rather desperate. I'm not sure if I can believe you or not on this one, since the Seahawks article isn't really that trustworthy to me. Any article like that can have errors inside, especially from a team site. Pro Football Reference is honestly more credible then something like that, but you need someone else to back you up. It doesn't sound reasonable for just one person to back something up. The Gamer 91 (talk) 21:07, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- I posted 3 official sources in the above discussion (Seahawks.com article, Seahawks Media Guide on nfl.com, and the official NFL instagram) which all corroborate 6x Pro Bowls. I have also verified via email with the NFL Communications Coordinator, Jacob Gellerman. I'm not sure what more verification is even possible to be honest. Pro-Football-Reference is not an official NFL database, it's a private site. I'd welcome anyone to contact Gellerman or someone else at the NFL if you want additional verification. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 01:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- ...well...if you did manage to talk to the NFL Communications Coordinator, then I guess I might not have an agreement much anymore. You should still maybe get an official quote from him or something of the sort to confirm this. However, you should also get another Wikipedia editor to agree with you, because this is a very controversial subject. The fact that more people disagree with you then actually agree (that's how I see it) is concerning. You might have to add something where the 2014 season has to be a "special occasion" where he was selected to the Pro Bowl, even though replacements are not counted if they don't actually play in the game. (That's the golden rule, you can look this up.) I never heard of that weird rule you were talking about, nor is it really mentioned in the articles. You sound completely bias when 2 of those articles are from Seattle sources, and the fact that you are a fan of his. (I checked your contributions, most of your edits over the last few years revolved around him.) It just looks too convenient. You would look better if you got another editor to defend you. That was the point of my previous post. The Gamer 91 (talk) 9:39, 3 February 2019 (CT)
- Wikipedia content is driven by WP:RELIABLE. A million people could disagree on this talk page and it wouldn't matter unless it was in a reliable published source. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 21:44, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- NFL considers only six official pro bowls for Wilson in contrast to what the Seahawks claim. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shogun902 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Wrong. Official NFL and Seahawks sources credit Wilson with 7 Pro Bowls, as I already proved above. Pro-Football-Reference is a private website, not an official NFL source. If you have an official NFL source saying otherwise, please share it. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 11:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- NFL considers only six official pro bowls for Wilson in contrast to what the Seahawks claim. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shogun902 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia content is driven by WP:RELIABLE. A million people could disagree on this talk page and it wouldn't matter unless it was in a reliable published source. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 21:44, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- ...well...if you did manage to talk to the NFL Communications Coordinator, then I guess I might not have an agreement much anymore. You should still maybe get an official quote from him or something of the sort to confirm this. However, you should also get another Wikipedia editor to agree with you, because this is a very controversial subject. The fact that more people disagree with you then actually agree (that's how I see it) is concerning. You might have to add something where the 2014 season has to be a "special occasion" where he was selected to the Pro Bowl, even though replacements are not counted if they don't actually play in the game. (That's the golden rule, you can look this up.) I never heard of that weird rule you were talking about, nor is it really mentioned in the articles. You sound completely bias when 2 of those articles are from Seattle sources, and the fact that you are a fan of his. (I checked your contributions, most of your edits over the last few years revolved around him.) It just looks too convenient. You would look better if you got another editor to defend you. That was the point of my previous post. The Gamer 91 (talk) 9:39, 3 February 2019 (CT)
Russel Wilson's Affordable Care Act promotion
Why does his profile not say he stared in a video for Obama care enrollment? Coldman48 (talk) 04:57, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- You could make a reasonable argument why it should be added, but it would probably make the most sense as part of a larger "Political views" section. It could include additional facts like how he accepted an invite to one of President Obama's State Dinners, said he was voting for Hillary Clinton, said he'd support a gay teammate, appeared in a video promoting Michelle Obama's healthy eating campaign, and said he thought President Trump might not last 4 years. Although I'm not sure Wilson is particularly well known for his political beliefs or activism. I'm curious what other people think. aqwfyj Talk/Contribs 11:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Seattle Sounders FC part ownership
As of August 13th 2019, Russell Wilson and wife Ciara are part owners of the Seattle Sounders FC. Announcement here from Wilsons twitter[2] and article in the Seattle Times[3] listing all the new part owners. This should be listed as the newest entry under his business ventures and endorsements. Odinbn (talk) 21:53, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
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