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Violation of wiki rules

Bring back paragraph about Arabs in Kirkuk. Otherwise I'll have to write to moderators. --PumbaPumbata (talk) 23:27, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdistan, or Kurdistani Region?

Dear Ahmedo Semsuri, you have asked on my "Talk" page, "For what reason do you believe that it should be 'Flag of Kurdistani Region' when it's sufficient with 'Flag of Kurdistan'[?]"

The answer is simple: "Kurdistan" connotes (as do place names ending in "stan" generally), for native English speakers (we are in the English Wikipedia), an independent jurisdiction; and, as yet, the region is not independent but still forms part of the territory of Iraq. I would be happy to see an independent Kurdistan raised to the community of nations; I believe that every people have a natural and moral right to govern themselves or to choose by whom they will be governed. But Wikipedia tries to be an accurate encyclopaedia, which should be an objective summary of truth, not an exposition of hope or desire.

Do note, too, that the title should be "Flag of the Kurdistani Region". There is need for the definite article.

Firstorm (talk) 00:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Firstorm: That really doesn't make sense. The autonomous region in northern Iraq is called Kurdistan Region. Whether the entity is independent or not is irrelevant. There are thousands of articles which includes the official and recognized name of the region. You want to change all Wikipedia pages that contain the name Catalonia to Catalonian as well just because it's not independent? What logic is that? --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 00:38, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmedo Semsuri, I tend to think that English does make sense, though I admit that the logic can be so complex as to appear nonsensical at times. I've amplified my first response to give you the clearer explanation you asked for.

Perhaps the Iraqi region (notice, "Iraqi region", not "Iraq region") is called the equivalent of "Kurdistan Region" in Kurdish or Arabic. In good English, however, it is either "the Region of Kurdistan" (probably the better form, but now perhaps obsolescent as such) or "the Kurdistani Region". English uses adjectives and adjectival constructions. That's simply the way the language works.

"Catalonia" does not connote an independent state. Nor is there need to write "Catalonian region" -- which is not, in fact, the name of the territory in either English, Spanish, or Catalan.

Firstorm (talk) 00:57, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

El_C Just to make sure, this is what we call Wikipedia:Original Research right? --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 18:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lacking familiarity with the actual research behind the dispute, I can say that we have to go with what published sources say, without injecting our own alterations, as that would, indeed, constitute original research. El_C 18:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Persecution of Yazidis by Kurds

Hi Ahmedo Semsurî. The page https://www.yezidis-assyrians.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Report-of-faith-leaders-on-Genocide from which you said you found some copypaste seems to be gone. Do you remember which content was copied from there? Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:54, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa, That's very odd. Yes, I remember the exact sections, but not sure how I can show them now. It was a PDF file where in one page had a timeline of Kurdish crimes which was simply copy-pasted. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 13:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the page was taken down in the meantime, and unfortunately it was never archived by the Wayback Machine. So I don't know if it was a repetition of the material I found at another site, or if there are still violations in the article. I am leaving the copypaste tag in place for this reason. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:11, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa, these two sites seem to have (parts of) the same timeline[1][2] --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 13:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All the overlap from those has been removed. In the future instead of tagging as copypaste, could you please remove copyright violations immediately? That would be super helpful, because occasionally we have issues like this where we can no longer confirm that the article has been properly cleaned. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:17, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will do! --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 13:18, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

discussion on ani noticeboard

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Central Kurdish

What do you think about this? [3] Obviously there are many Kurdish dialects, whether northern, central, or southern, but Sorani is amongst the most prominent ones, surely it should have its own article? --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

HistoryofIran, If you're asking whether the title should be 'Central Kurdish' or 'Sorani', I just know that an edit war has been going on for years on whether it should be Kurmanji and Sorani or Northern Kurdish and Central Kurdish. I personally believe that they should be named Northern Kurdish and Central Kurdish because we also have Southern Kurdish which (for some odd reason) does not have a Kurdish and recognizable name. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eurovision 2020

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IP socking

i think this ip is sock of theodorlewin. their aggressive style and threats for reporting are almost identical. also i don't think max joseph (aka deadmanmax) is a reliable source. a random social media activist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.242.121.85 (talk) 07:06, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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ANI

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Kurdish tribes

As you've seen, I reverted a couple of your good-faith edits which blanked and redirected articles to Kurds and asked you to use a deletion process instead. I see you've done that - thank you. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:05, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting hour of work

Why did you delete hours of work and tons of writing I did write in kurdish grammar sections wihtout asking for reference?

I am 100% sure that you speak the western variety yourself since I can tell from your alias, but simply delete it because of your ideology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rojan98 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Read Wikipedia:Original Research and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. --Semsurî (talk) 13:46, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Swiss federal election

Hay! Thank you for your contribuation to the 2019 Swiss federal election pages! However I see some issues withe the way you depict the cantonal resultats. I indicated them in Talk:2019 Swiss federal election --So-Gast (talk) 12:26, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of citations

In your edit here [[5]] you have removed a citation from the article saying in your edit summary: "no need for this". Do not remove citations for POV purposes. You have previously removed the citation under 24 hours too [6] because the link was dead, yet removed to fixed link later. Violating 1RR (1 revert under 24 hours). Let me remind you that 1RR actually warrants blocks, I will not contact an administrator at this time and just give you a heads up on 1RR. Any further reverts will force me to contact an administrator if it violates 1RR. KasimMejia (talk) 06:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stop ethnocentric edits

As is observed due to some ideological and ethnocentric willings, you have changed the cocontents of different papers like Lurs, Laks (Iran) and .. and you have even deleted and merged pages like Feyli lurs, Iraqi Lurs, Baghdadi Luri illogically.Your ethnocentric edits to deviate realities towards the ideology of so-called Greater Kurdistan is very harmful and dangerous for Wikipedia impartiality and scientific orientations. Based on a tiny induction, you have deleted large non-related sections of pages perspicaciously. edits will be no loner out of sight.--SHADEGAN (talk) 01:51, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't add information without reliable references. --Semsurî (talk) 01:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Capital of KRG

The source you used is the constitution of 2004, however the new one says "Hawler city [Erbil] is the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan; and the Parliament has the right to designate another city of the Region as the capital" Beshogur (talk) 16:20, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Beshogur - That constitution draft has not been voted into law.p. 709 The current constitution from 2004 says "Article 5: "The city of Kirkuk shall be the capitol of the Kurdistan Region."[7] --Semsurî (talk) 16:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your revision

The passages you brought back on KNC page are not sourced at all either. I simply replaced the biased obvious PYD perspective with more neutral and objective language. Try clicking on the two first sources from Kurdwatch for example. They are old and not accessible at all anymore. Apply scrutiny to biased language not objective corrections. That page is full of PYD propaganda. 195.249.232.126 (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Ezdiki language

Hi. Have you seen Template:Lang-ez? It was created by an editor whom you have earlier suspected to be a sock. – Uanfala (talk) 20:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Uanfala: No I haven't. But that template is a POVFORK of Template:lang-kmr and rightfully deleted. Thanks for notifying me. --Semsurî (talk) 20:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Syriac translations

Hi, I've noticed you've removed Syriac translations from a number of articles citing their lack of references and that they're 'wikiwords'. Whilst I agree that the lack of references isn't ideal, I think that, given how little we know about these settlements, it's best to have something at all. Am I right in thinking a 'wikiword' is one only found on Wikipedia? My knowledge of Syriac is extremely limited and thus if you think there's reason to think the translations are incorrect in of themselves, as opposed to due to the lack of sources, then I agree with your edits, but otherwise I think they should be retained. The translations are neither contentious nor biased, therefore if the citation needed tag is added, then I see no reason why they should not be restored. In the spirit of Christmas, I hope we can find a resolution to this issue. Mugsalot (talk) 01:24, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Mugsalot: what I mean by wikiword is that the words originated here and, in most cases, circulated to mirror-sites or social media sites. Since some names could be verified (like the one in Cizre), it looks like that the correct forms do exist online. Honestly, if it was not possible for me to find a reliable reference for the Syriac word used in Qamishlo, I’m sure that the spelling was wrong. That city is one of the few major Assyrian settlements. For now, I wouldn’t support these names returning to the pages. --Semsurî (talk) 01:46, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I personally don't see why the fact that the words originate from Wikipedia are grounds to remove them. In regard to Assyrian villages particularly, most of the information is unsourced and originated in Wikipedia users adding them, and if we were to apply your principle universally, then there would be effectively no information on many of these villages, and it would not even be apparent that they ever were Assyrian in the first place. If you know the spellings are incorrect, then I wholeheartedly agree with their removal, but their transliterations should be kept, at the very least. Mugsalot (talk) 17:58, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If information can't be verified, it should not stay on Wikipedia. Regarding, latin transliterations of Syriac words, they also need a reference which is probably easier to find. --Semsurî (talk) 20:06, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, in line with WP:UNSOURCED, perhaps the Latin transliterations of Syriac words should be restored with a citation needed tag until an appropriate reference is added.

In an unrelated note, I'm curious about this edit [8] as I had a quick peruse of the source you quoted, and it doesn't seem to contradict the original source [9], so I was wondering why you removed that settlement from the list. Mugsalot (talk) 01:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mugsalot: the List of Assyrian settlements article is about modern Assyrian settlements (both majority and minority, I assume). The AINA article doesn't mention who was resettled after the reconstruction (only that churches were rebuild), but the source I included mentioned Yazidis. (page 153)--Semsurî (talk) 02:08, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The list is for Assyrian settlements after 1914, thus should include Qarawola as both the AINA article and your source attest the village was inhabited by Assyrians prior to 1975. Mugsalot (talk) 02:27, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mugsalot:, I am sorry. I will re-add it. --116.65.76.249 (talk) 02:34, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Tunceli

You might want to look into the Tunceli article. Someone removed a lot of Dersim...Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:39, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And again... Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Masrour Barzani

Hi Semsûrî, I saw you noticed the recent edits Nechirvan Barzani (diff) and Masoud Barzani (diff), and reverted them, which I wholly agree with. The same editor however also made the same edit to Masrour Barzani (diff). As I have a COI I’m not in a position to edit that article directly. Would you be happy to revert that edit on Masrour Barzani as you have on the other two? Kind regards. Halgurd1 (talk) 14:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Semsûrî: Just checking if you’ve seen this – let me know what you think, thanks. Halgurd1 (talk) 13:36, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Advances in Anthropology is not a reliable source

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