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anyone can help please

I'm very sad, 3 Drafts are not accepting because i am ip and not editor, all have sources, And they refuse for the same reasons. Everyone rejects drafts, nobody helps, we try hours, and they easily refuse in seconds. 1-Draft:Sherif Salama, 2- Draft:Napoleon Wal Mahrousa, 3- Draft:Ali Mansour. --41.35.85.111 (talk) 22:09, 3 August 2020 (UTC) 41.35.85.111 (talk) 22:09, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Note this was posted about 10 hours ago above at #Submit Draft:Ali Mansour. Please don't do that. If you want to add to your previous posting, just edit that section. You have been given lots of feedback on the article page itself regarding notability (and lack thereof) and unsuitability of sources like blogs, interviews, and IMDb. It has nothing to do with you being an IP editor. If others have something to contribute, they will respond in time – we are all volunteers with real lives to attend to. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

I reviewed Draft:Sherif Salama and I am sorry but it needs work before publication can be considered. -- Otr500 (talk) 12:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

     Just make an account, and it will save the drafts, its also not the best idea to be an ip editor, because people have access to a lot of info. 

Source assessment table:
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://elcinema.com/person/2140347/	Independent	Appears to be reliable	Directory entry	✘ No
https://alwafd.news/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%86%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D8%AD%D9%81%D9%89/3025076-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%B4%D8%AF-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D8%B7%D9%84%D9%82-%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A5%D8%B8%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84-%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%84	Largely what the subject said about itself, probbably interview	Appears to be reliable	A few sentences, most by the subject, not even a full paragraph	✘ No
https://www.msr4.com/art-news/%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%B4%D9%81-%D8%B9%D9%86-%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%87-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%84-%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86/	Appears to be largely independent	? I'm unsure about the reliability of this website	? More coverage than the last one, but still questionable	? Unknown
https://arabic-media.com/articles/id/posts.php?title=Backstage-filming-of-Saraya-Abdeen-series	Appears to be independent	Probbably reliable	Largely about the film, not the actor	✘ No
https://dhliz.com/artist/ali_mansour/	Appears to be independent	Appeas to be user-editable, at least I saw something like a rate button	Directory entry	✘ No
https://www.dostor.org/2616509	? Apepars to be largely what the subject reported, but I cant say that for sure using google translate	Appears to be reliable	A few paragraphs.	? Unknown
https://akhbarelyom.com/news/newdetails/2878459/1/-%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%83-%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AF-..-%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%82%D9%84%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%84-%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1	? Largely stuff by Mansur on His works, Partially reported by the subject	Appaers to be a somewhat reliable source in general	Largely about the place he is, describing the wonderfull nature there	✘ No
https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/1392385	Largely what the subject reported	Appears to be a reliable newspaper		✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EUVGasEHWE	Interview with the subject	? Youtube can be a questionable source, and without language knowledge it hard to determine the reliability	17:20 Minutes	✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgEGrMwC7AM	Interview with the subject	? Youtube can be a questionable source, and without language knowledge it hard to determine the reliability	12:18 Minutes	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Note:I had to use google translate to asses, which makes things rather difficult. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:37, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

• Hi Victor Schmidt mobil, source No. 4 about the actor and tells about his role in the series. Translate the content of source: The artist Ali Mansour said that he considers himself lucky, because he participated in a work with the star Yousra, and Ali Mansour embodies within the events of the series "Saraya Abdin" a character (a French photographer) who came to Egypt to take the first photo inside Egypt, and the picture was of the family of Khedive Ismail (Qusai Khouli The mother, Pasha (Yusra), is inside the Abdin Palace garden.
• and all sources speak about Ali Mansour and what he does, you can be sure with google translate (Translate the content of sources). and source assess table shows that there are source newspaper, and sources Independent reliable. Thank you. -102.45.13.38 (talk) 16:02, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Otr500 , Okay, I will work on Draft:Sherif Salama more thanks. This is a very famous actor in the Arab world. -102.45.13.38 (talk) 16:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

• Hi Victor Schmidt mobil, New sources "Ali Mansour reveals his role in the series "Napoleon wal Mahroussa." , Ali Mansour reveals the details of his work with Yousra elfann.com. , Ali mansour reveals his role in the series Napoleon wal Mahroussa nabd.com. -41.35.87.185 (talk) 18:13, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Victor Schmidt mobil, I have make an account, Thank you. -Eng Mohammed Hamdy (talk) 22:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC) Hello Otr500, What about Draft:Sherif Salama now? --Eng Mohammed Hamdy (talk) 20:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

please explain the last 2 lines of Robert Ludlum's book "The Holcroft Covenant"

"The Tinamou was killed at last. By the Tinamou. They were everywhere. It had only begun." Please explain this ending. Jassiken (talk) 14:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

The Teahouse is for help with editing Wikipedia. You should post general questions at the reference desk, assuming that a similar question has not already been answered there. Doctor Whooves (talk) 14:54, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Jassiken:, welcome to Teahouse, we are here to respond/help on Wikipedia based question. I can't understand if you are talking about a article of a book or directly a book? — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 14:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

[Subsequently asked, and now responded to, on the Humanities Refdesk.] {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.217.210.84 (talk) 08:34, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Transform Howey Ou draft into an article

I created the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Howey_Ou. Now, I would like to transform the draft into an article. Could anyone walk me through the procedure please? Your help would be much appreciated. Azastorr (talk) 19:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Azastorr:, welcome to Teahouse, I just checked your draft and found it need some more work on it like copy-editing etc. Well you have questioned about draft to article. There is procedure called AfC. Or simply draft submission. You can place {{draft}} tag at top or bottom of a draft. This generates a submit button. You can submit with that. And a reviewer will see your draft and move it to an article if everything is okay. If not, he/she will decline and define a reason for declining draft submission. You have to work on it, then submit again. Thank You.— The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 19:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @TheChunky:, thank you for your answer. Where can people who are not native English speakers find help with copy-editing?--Azastorr (talk) 13:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Azastorr please clear, which language you are talking about. Wikipedia is available in different languages, you are at English Wikipedia can write articles for only English Wikipedia. For other languages, you can write at their respective projects available at homepage or this link — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 17:03, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Take many for article

Hello) Some people ask me to write article in Wiki for them. I don't know can I work like this or not. But it will be good for me. Does anybody work here for money? Svetlana 3012 (talk) 07:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Svetlana 3012 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. There are editors that are paid by others to write articles for them. This is not necessarily something that the community at large encourages or endorses, but it does happen. Most editors here are volunteers, working on their own time purely to benefit this project and humanity. If you do write an article for payment of any kind(not just money) you are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use to comply with the paid editing policy and declare that status. 331dot (talk) 07:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

331dot Thank you for answer so fast. I haven't done it yet.Svetlana 3012 (talk) 08:13, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Svetlana 3012, and welcome to the Teahouse. I would like to bring a couple of things to your attention. First, creating a new article is a very very difficult task for an inexperienced editor, and those who try it often have a disapointing and frustrating experience. Thousands of drafts are declined, sometimes several times, and many are rejected (i.e. the reviewer believes they will never meet Wikipedia's criteria). Unless a subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, all work on it, by anybody, is wasted effort.

Secondly, Wikipedia articles are not for the benefit of the subject. Often, subjects do benefit from there being an article about them, but that is no part of Wikipedia's purposes, and it is not guaranteed. The subject of an article, and their agents, have no control over the content of the article, and in some cases it may contain material that they would prefer not to appear. See An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. --ColinFine (talk) 12:28, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, ColinFine Thank you. I wrote only one article and its about young man with I know very well. When I was creating this article I was thinking that he could be good example for a young people. Yes be editor its really difficult. Svetlana 3012 (talk) 08:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Conflict of interest flagged

I have been accused of a conflict of interest. It is not true. I want the flag removed. I feel I have been ignored. The article in question is Durdana Ansari MonksCroft (talk) 11:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

MonksCroft, you do have a conflict of interest, as you are editing the article at her request. The only way to get the conflict of interest tag removed is for you to stop directly editing the article and start making edit requests on the talk page instead. —valereee (talk) 12:32, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

And actually that probably wouldn't be sufficient, as there's a second newish editor at the article also editing with a probable COI. That person would also have to stop editing directly. —valereee (talk) 12:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. She did not say what changes she wanted, I decided them based on my professional knowledge of her work. She only asked me because she is an Urdu speaker and her English isn't good enough to do it herself.

MonksCroft (talk) 17:00, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

MonksCroft, you're free to disagree. I'm just advising you that it is highly unlikely that tag will be removed unless both you and the other editor stop editing directly. It's not a big deal to edit via edit request rather than directly; it's a matter of posting a template to the talk page. You can find information at Template:Request edit. It's a slightly slower process, but not at all uncommon. —valereee (talk) 17:36, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I have not got my point over. I have not edited the page since May. I have stopped editing it. My question remains unanswered at your end: namely, what needs to change? if another editor would like to make those changes that would be fine, but I don't know what you are objecting to, so how can I propose further changes? Meanwhile this COI statement is casting aspersions on my integrity and I am angry that it remains there. I have no idea who the other editor is! MonksCroft (talk) 19:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

MonksCroft, no aspersions on your integrity are intended, and I'm sorry it feels that way. It's simply a warning to readers that there may be information in the article that isn't objectively written. If you place a statement of disclosure at your user page and commit to not editing directly, we could probably remove the tag as long as the other editor stops editing too. You can find instructions for what you need to do at WP:COIEDIT; if you have more questions, come back here and someone will help! —valereee (talk) 16:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks - I have put such a statement on my User page. As I mentioned, I have no idea who the other editor is. Also, I would be happy to rewrite any bits you object to with journalistic integrity. Having worked in that field all my life I would be able to do so. But I need to know what bits of the existing piece fail your test! Hope this helps MonksCroft (talk) 17:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Indian YouTuber Article creation

Can i create a article of Jio Joseph (Notable person and Indian youtuber) , reliable sources available.can i create?. TintuArunav (talk) 12:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @TintuArunav:, welcome again to Teahouse, well, if you are claiming the Jio Joseph is notable and you have reliable sources. Then start you article through WP:YFA as draft. After completion submit it for review, then reviewer will look into the draft and if your claim proved to be true, then the article will be moved to mainspace as new article. Thank You. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 13:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

ok @TheChunky , which template is suitable Template:Infobox person or Template:Infobox YouTube personality (Have over 4 million subscribers on youtube).TintuArunav (talk) 13:57, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

TintuArunav Template:Infobox YouTube personality is the most suitable, but do remember the draft must be notable and passes WP:GNG along with adequate reliable sources ~ Amkgp 💬 14:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

TintuArunav, well if this article is about notable youtuber, then use Template:Infobox YouTube personality . — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 14:15, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

But, TintuArunav, if you're worrying about the infobox now, when you haven't written any text, you're doing it wrong. An infobox is an optional extra, to make an article more attractive and usable when the text has already been written. Your absolute first task, before infoboxes, before pictures, before you even write a word, is to find the reliable independent sources with substantial coverage, because if you can't find them, then there will be no article, and every single bit of work you have put in up to that point will be wasted. When you have found at least three reliable independent and substantial sources, and written an article based almost wholly on what those sources say, then is the time to worry about the simple task of adding an infobox. --ColinFine (talk) 15:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello @TheChunky,created the draft article , check it out Draft:Jio Joseph.If any suggestion,please mention below.Thank you TintuArunav (talk) 19:41, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi TintuArunav, well, after checking your draft, there are two citations from instagram (a social network). The references from instagram are not reliable sources. Kindly remove that. See what is Reliable at WP:RELIABLE. And clean up the information you added from non reliable source. Improve it more. Thank you. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 19:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

ok @TheChunky,removed the non reliable source.Can i submit for review?.can you review the article?.TintuArunav (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

TintuArunav, upon checking your draft, I found that the name has some issue. You have named it as Jio Joseph but the references says Geo Joseph except one reference say Jiyo Joseph which still not match the name of draft. Need more reliable sources. The references seems to be dependent on one event, which doesn't clear its notability. Add some more reliable sources.— The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 03:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@TheChunky Names also mentioned pseudonym.And some medias pronounced Malayalam name ജിയോ to Jio,Jiyo.Her birth name is Geo Joseph,and also know as with her YT channel name M4 tech jio.TintuArunav (talk) 10:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

TintuArunav But article depends upon reliable sources. So it need more reliable sources to verify the name claims and also get more stable in terms of notability.— The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 16:49, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I've messed up my talk page

The website I used for my talk page archives is not hosting them anymore. I don't have anywhere else that I have put them, what do I do? Emicho's Avenger (talk) 17:58, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Emicho's Avenger. I've never heard of somebody archiving their talk pages outside Wikipedia before. Most people use a bot to archive them inside Wikipedia: see Archiving a talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 18:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Emicho's Avenger: There are plenty of free cloud storage services available, including Google Drive, though it's better if you keep them here and use one of the WP:ARCHIVErs (or do it manually if you have little activity, as I do). You can recover your talk page from its history to get the old content back. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:25, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine @AlanM1 do they look right now? Emicho's Avenger (talk) 05:04, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Why is the link I've added red not blue

Hello.

I've just added a link on the Wax Bullets page, under the section titled Pistol Dueling. The text I've added reads

Main Article: Pistol Duelling

Pistol Duelling is a new page (my first article. hooray!). The link I've added on the Wax Bullets shows " Pistol Deulling " in red. Have I done something incorrectly or does it take a while for new pages to be recognised by the linking software?

Thank you for any help more experienced editors can give. Universal Kakistocrat (talk) 21:47, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Universal Kakistocrat: Spelling and capitalization matter. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You have linked to an article called Pistol Duelling, Kakistocrat, which does not exist. The article you have created (well done!) is called Pistol duelling. Apart from the initial letter, page names are case-dependent. --ColinFine (talk) 21:57, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you both. Problem solved. I didn't know it was case sensitive. Thank you also both for not pointing out my particularly egregious misspelling of Duelling in my own question.

Careful, Kakistocrat: you didn't misspell "Dueling" in your question: you were quoting a section heading from Wax bullet, which happens to be written in American English. The article you created uses British spelling. This is fine, but it's easy to get confused. --ColinFine (talk) 22:05, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Blast. Mispinged again. Universal Kakistocrat. --ColinFine (talk) 22:07, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. But spelling it as Deulling in my question above was pretty unforgivable in the circumstances! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Universal Kakistocrat (talk • contribs) 22:13, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Oops! Missed that, Universal Kakistocrat. For future reference, while it's not considered good practice to change a post after somebody's replied to it, you can go back and strike out mistakes. So <s>Deulling</s>Duelling appears as DeullingDuelling. --ColinFine (talk) 08:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the helpful advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Universal Kakistocrat (talk • contribs) 12:26, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Transgender "Deadname" removal request in Wikipedia page

Hello, I am inquiring about the Wikipedia page of T. Thomason - he is requesting to have his deadname (Molly Thomason) removed or placed in a less notable area of his Wiki page. This is creating issues for him and is a constant source of frustration and upset. His page is semi-protected, and I am hoping, for his sake, we can make this change so as to make T more comfortable and create less frustration for him as it keeps appearing in his press and articles, which he does not want. Jonesandco902 (talk) 21:57, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Jonesandco902. I have removed the bolded birth name from the lead sentence and moved it (unbolded) to the part of the article that describes their birth. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Jonesandco902, I can remember when we reported what reliable sources said, rather than accede to the whims request of the subject. S Philbrick(Talk) 22:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Sphilbrick, this request is not a "whim", and I suggest that you avoid such a dismissive word. The birth name remains in the article, but it was over-emphasized in the previous version. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:22, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Cullen328: For future reference (as this comes up more frequently), do you have a pointer to current policy/guideline/discussion? WP:DEADNAME seems to disagree. I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:59, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

AlanM1, I made a bold edit based on this specific situation. I am not going to edit war about it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Not a policy or guideline but guidance from Wikiproject LGBT, WP:TRANSNAME suggests "birth and former names of transgender and non-binary people should only be included in the lead section if they were notable prior to coming out." -- Dane ^talk 02:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Which is true in the present case, and consistent with WP:DEADNAME. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I made an edit in accordance with WP:DEADNAME and WP:TRANSNAME. Obviously, if the community wishes to revisit those guidelines that's acceptable. S Philbrick(Talk) 13:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I get the policy, and it seems to me the policy is in place because we want to avoid confusing readers. In this case was this person really so notable 5 years ago when they were like 20 years old, under the original name? It's not like Caitlyn Jenner. I would support an IAR move from the lead to the body because: kindness to human beings. —valereee (talk) 14:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Unsure if this is the proper way to respond on here, but I would have to agree with the idea of considering the person in discussion's feelings about their own representation in the world. He is not Caitlyn Jenner, and it would be fine to include their gender history later on in his page, but I don't see why this cannot be changed to be less at the forefront of who this person is as a human being. His gender does not need to be in the top section of his Wiki - we do not classify cis men or women as such in their opening section of their Wiki pages. The page also needs to be updated to reflect that T is no longer gender binary, but identifies as male, which is cited here:

Jonesandco902 (talk) 22:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

References

Hello! Do you have to be 13 to use Wikipedia?

Hi! This is probably a silly question, but do you have to be 13 to use Wikipedia? ~Abraham236 (talk) 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Abraham236, You can be of any age, as long as you follow our rules :) If you under 18, I would not mention that on Wiki, and would generally keep your age a secret as a matter of practice. We have Wikipedians of all ages, from quite young, to quite old! CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 02:49, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks again @CaptainEek! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abraham236 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Abraham236 I'd suggest reading this guidance for younger editors. 331dot (talk) 07:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

OK :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abraham236 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Can't find

Where can I find this or this templates? I have been templated with both, but can't find them anywhere for me to use. I am pretty sure they were not created fresh for my talk page. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:24, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Aditya Kabir: The comment says it's derived from {{Ds/alert}}. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Never noticed this WP:Discretionary sanction thing before. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 07:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Sunshine on Leith (film) locations of filiming.

Question: For the film Sunshine on Leith, Wikipedia: Sunshine on Leith (film) I wish to insert the filming locations which are identifiable. I seek guidance to the appropriate format to allow me to carry out this action. Sincerely DIY Man DIY Man (talk) 07:53, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse DIY Man. Thanks for your question. Providing you have a good quality, reliable source, I think you should add it between the third and fourth sentence of the lead. For example: "It was filmed on location in the cities of Foo and Bar in 2010.(CITE SOURCE HERE). It was screened in the Special Presentation section at the 2013 Toronto International Film Festival.[2][3]" See WP:REFBEGIN for how to use the 'Cite' button to easily add your source at the end of the relevant sentence. If there's a lot of information you want to add about the filming, then you could create a separate sub-heading for that section. (PS: There's no need to leave a line between your post and your signature, so I've tweaked the formatting of your question) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, DIY Man, and welcome to the Teahouse. First question: do you have reliable published sources for what the locations were? If you have, you can put them in, but if it's from your observation, that would be original research, and not acceptable. Also, if nobody has written about the locations, they may not be encyclopaedic. If some of them are notable or interesting in their own right, that's one thing, but a list of locations that would be interesting only to devotees of the film or to locals may not be.

As for where to put them, there doesn't seem to be anything in MOS:FILM that covers this. I would suggest that if there is just one sentence to add, it could go in the lead (generally the lead should summarise information elsewhere in the article, but at present that's not the case for this article anyway). If there is more than that, a new section would be appropriate - but, again I emphasise, only if the information has been published and is encyclopaedic.

Another possibility is to start a discussion on Talk:Sunshine on Leith (film), or on WT:WikiProject Film. --ColinFine (talk) 08:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

User page

 Halcyon grun Sproutz (talk) 08:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a question? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:48, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Are sources published by parent organisation considered reliable

I am editing National Women's Front and a third of its sources are published by its parent organisation Popular Front of India. Are these sources reliable as they would most likely try their best to show NWF in a good light ?--User:श्रीमान २००२ (User talk:श्रीमान २००२) 08:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC) User:श्रीमान २००२ (User talk:श्रीमान २००२) 08:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, श्रीमान २००२. In general, they may be reliable, but are not independent, and so can be used in only limited ways, and do not contribute to notability|. See primary sources. --ColinFine (talk) 10:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Thanks for guidance.--User:श्रीमान २००२ (User talk:श्रीमान २००२) 10:15, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft approval

There is a draft which I had edited a while back (created by a registered account) at Draft:Pekka Lundmark. The draft is linked to all relevant WikiProjects via the talk page as recommended, but for some reason it is yet to get reviewed (more than 6 weeks so far). I know that reviewers are volunteers, but can someone tell whether there is anything wrong with the draft which may affect its chance of being accepted? 45.251.33.22 (talk) 09:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP user, the articles for creation backlog is currently over 2 months, which is why it hadn't yet been reviewed. I have had a look and accepted it. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Joseph2302! 45.251.33.22 (talk) 09:55, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_on_Leith_(film) locations of filiming.

Nick & Colin, thank you for your replies. I have sourced various internet articles and collected the links to add to the reference section along with insertion beside filming locations. These will be cited to allow readers to refer should they wish The number of filming locations I believe warrants a section dedicated to these areas. These could be inserted between section 4 songs and 5 references I’ll visit WP:REFBEGIN as suggested. The list which I propose is in my view would extend beyond the interest of devotees of the film My thoughts are to list the filming locations either alphabetically following the city where located. The list would benefit from separating the list into two areas Edinburgh and Glasgow. Each location would have the full Royal Mail Postal Address where possible. Another alternative would be to list the filming locations as they appear chronologically in the film. In undertaking the sourcing and listing of the filming locations I wish to maintain accuracy while displaying information which will be of interest to readers. I don’t fancy a discussion, not for me at the moment. Would it be an idea to run a draft passed you both before submission? Your help and assistance is most appreciated. DIY Man (talk) 09:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello again, DIY Man. If you're continuing a discussion on a talk or project page, please keep it in the existing section rather than starting a new one. In my view, a list of locations is not appropriate unless they are significant in some other way; and I certainly don't think there is any encyclopaedic value in including full addresses. But I am not a film buff, and have no interest in film articles, so I will not review your changes, or take any further part.

I'm afraid that if you "don't fancy a discussion" you probably shouldn't be editing Wikipedia. Some changes you make will pass without comment; but BRD is the life-blood of editing Wikipedia, and your choice is often whether to have the discussion first, or wait to be reverted and have it then. --ColinFine (talk) 10:23, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Colin, thank you for your reply. All you write I have noted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DIY Man (talk • contribs) 10:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@DIY Man: I tend to agree with Colin in that it's fine to link to references (not ImDb, please) which allow you to see that a film was predominantly filmed in Scotland in places X and Y, but adding minutiae as you suggest isn't really appropriate (see WP:TRIVIA) for an otherwise short article. The great thing is that, having included the sources, and reader can then follow them to find out more for themselves. I don't know if you've ever watched Highlander, but that article has a fairly long section on filming locations, balanced with the size of the article. But even then, it only covers a small number of key locations. (I remember encountering one partially constructed film set in Glen Coe during the mid-80's and then laughing when I saw the actual film, especially at one particular fight scene which was filmed atop the Cioch Butress on Skye (reachable only by a Diff rock climb), but when they turned to face another direction they were back on a ridge above Glen Coe. Even if that were reliably sourced, this would all be far too trivial for a Wikipedia article to cover in detail, and of absolutely no interest to the reader. Quite often here, "less is more", and getting the balance right can be a bit of an art. I'm glad you asked, though. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)  

Nick, thank you for your response. I appreciate that a list such as I proposed may be inappropriate for a Wikipedia article. Also that the information might be of limited interest to other readers. On the film Highlander. When it was released I was not a regular cinemas goer. I was at that time running my second Kit Car which I constructed myself. Along with work and Territorial Army commitments the cinema was not a big attraction to me. I did watch Highlander in the 1990’s for light entertainment. Having read the Wikipedia article on Highlander it has refreshed my recollection of the film. Likeable in the article is the image of Eilean Donan Castle. I own a Graham Harris Graham picture of Eilean Donan Castle, wall mounted in my living room. A stunning evening shot with the castle lit up by floodlights. I’ll follow advice and will not insert the Sunshine on Leith Film Locations. Thank you again. DIY Man (talk) 13:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to How to write in wikepidwia

 Asaju shalom great (talk) 10:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Asaju shalom great. From the fact that you linked to the earlier question, you presumably read the answer there. What is your question? --ColinFine (talk) 10:26, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Are two spaces required after the end of a sentence on Wikipedia?

Hello!

On Wikipedia, should two spaces be used after the end of a sentence or just one?

Thank you! SeparateTitan92 (talk) 10:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

SeparateTitan92, whether you use two spaces or one will make no difference to the way the text is displayed. I recommend always using one. But if you notice that someone has used two, there's little reason to change it. Maproom (talk) 10:48, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Maproom. I understand and appreciate your advice. Have a nice day. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 11:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Here's a demonstration. I left five spaces prior to this sentence. It displays as if there is just one. But unwanted characters may make a difference to how the source code looks when your are editing it. So avoiding unwanted characters is a very good idea. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello and thank you, Nick Moyes! I will attempt to not leave any unneeded characters or spaces in my edits. Enjoy your day. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 11:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Help with improving a declined article (Model United Nations)

Hello, I've recently written a draft for a high school-level Model United Nations conference which was rejected. I've seen articles with equal or worse quality get approved and I do not fully understand why my submission was declined. I would really appreciate if someone could help me fix the issues on this submission or re-review it. Link to the article: Bratmun Many Thanks. Tahamct (talk) 10:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

The reason for your draft been declined was left at the top of the page. It fails WP:Notability. For the most part, the quality of a draft doesn't matter so much as what it is about. A badly written article can be improved, but an article with very little to write about can't be improved. Unfortunately you can't really fix an article that fails notability - you can't control it (notability). If you think more independent, reliable sources of info on the subject will be published soon, wait and add them in when they arrive. If there are no more sources, then I'm afraid you will need to abandon the article. For more info, look at WP:N and more specifically WP:GNG. Regards, Giraffer (munch) 12:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Other articles of poor quality exist (see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists) is never a valid argument. Many of the six million plus articles were created in early years, and would not be accepted now, and other were created directly to main space rather than having gone through the Articles for Creation process. Sometimes, pointing out articles of worse quality than a declined draft has the unintended consequence of an Articles for Deletion being started! David notMD (talk) 12:15, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Citations and deleting/ replacing another's work

Hello, I made my first edits to the page "Hanseatic League". Could someone please check my work, esp. the citations? I just followed the pattern of existing citations and it seemed to to work fine. Since I am fluent in German, I noticed a citation from a German source which 1) was not entirely accurate, involved some free interpolation and 2) was from a weak online source, the notability of which I would call into question. In any case I can retrieve the core information from an academic source and present it more accurately. Is there some process to follow in order to delete/ replace another edits? Or should I just do it? Hroberth Dunbar (talk) 10:31, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Hroberth Dunbar and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edits seem to be fine so far, so keep going! I don't speak German so I can't look at the sources in detail but they seem to be good. If there is a (non-controversial) change you think should be made, make it.

To answer your second question, we don't have a process for replacing someone else's content on an article - just click edit and change it. That said, if you disagree with someone (in particular)'s edits, drop a message to them on the article's talk page, where you can discuss changes you think should or should not be made. For more info on replacing other edits, I recommend taking a look at WP:BRD and WP:EQ.

I think the best piece of advice for you overall is to be bold! If someone doesn't like your edits, they will undo them and give you a reason. If not, then just ask. Nothing bad can come of trying to help when everyone should be assuming good faith. Hope this helps! Regards, Giraffer (munch) 12:18, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Hanseatic League. I will add that providing an explanation in the Edit summary should suffice, but if your reference removal/replacement also involves changing the text to have an entirely different meaning, consider creating a new section in the Talk page of the article to explain your actions. David notMD (talk) 12:22, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Withdrawing an AfD nomination

Do I just strike out my nomination and wait for somebody to close it or is there something else I have to do? – ².O.^Boxing 12:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, I found out how to do it. – ².O.^Boxing 13:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

NOTABILITY ISSUE

Hi i am getting a notability issues,Draft:Jamal Nasser on this kindly review and help in any way you can. JJNasser (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@JJNasser: For an article to be written about a person, they must first meet our notability guideline for people. If they meet the guidelines, then ideally the notability should be demonstrated through citing reliable, independent sources that support the information within the article. If they do not meet the guidelines, then an article should not be written about the person at all. Your draft, Draft:Jamal Nasser, needs more sources that are not related to the person, like books or newspapers, and not the person's Facebook page or companies they worked for. On a seperate note, your username suggest that you are writing an autobiography, which is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia as the article is likely to not be written neutrally. Please thoroughly read our conflict of interest of guideline and disclose your relationship with the person. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:30, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Verifiable information

Dear Sirs, I have always been corrected if my verifiable sources or my writing wasn't more than officially verifiable. Now I see this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_From_Hell that is full of unverifiable content and I don't understand why the Wikipedia standards only work for some people and not everyone alike. I know for a fact that what they declare about interviews with various people is not true and is not verified. Thank you Athenaathena07 (talk) 13:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC) Athenaathena07 (talk) 13:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Athenaathena07: The article Elvis From Hell look fine to me, as every piece of information is cited to a reliable source. If you disagree with the content, you may change it, but be prepared to provide reliable sources of your own to back your claims. On a seperate note, just because another article's references may be missing or unreliable does not mean that we should write articles in that way. Nobody necessarily "allowed" them to add it in, it's just that nobody caught the problem and added sources/removed it yet. When contributing to Wikipedia, hold yourself to a higher standard, don't let experienced editors' advice make you feel bad, and if you find something that can be improved, go ahead and make it better! ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

So, let me understand: if I tell a lie and The Times publishes it, it becomes the truth for Wikipedia just because it has been published on an important newspaper, right?Athenaathena07 (talk) 22:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Athenaathena07: If whichever Times you are referring to is considered by Wikipedia editors to be reliable, their paid, professional article author, fact-checkers, and editors choose to publish it, a Wikipedia editor believes it and chooses to put it in an article without cross-checking against another source, and no other Wikipedia editor or reader notices, yes. Is all that likely to come together? No. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

How to start writing articles or improve articles in wikipedia

Hello, can anybody help me to create articles? i want to create articles about many journal from fermilab and maybe improve another articles in wikipedia. Googath (talk) 15:03, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

The blue links on your User page include "Your First Article." That said, new editors are advised to learn about the system by editing existing articles before trying to create an article. Teahouse volunteers are here to answer questions about Wikipedia, but not serve as co-creators. David notMD (talk) 15:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Nordstadt (Karlsruhe)

Hi, its been a while since I last created an article here and I would appreciate some help/hints. I submitted, or rather re-submitted, a draft version on the Nordstadt borough of Karlsruhe. I always find it to be a bit difficult to place pictures in the right spot so they do not appear to be all over the place. Also I have no idea on how to place the coordinates. Large parts of the borough include what used to be US Smiley barracks and Paul Revere Village I wonder if anyone could come up with useful redirects in case some of its former inhabitants look up the place on Wikipedia. Thanks! Feel free to edit the draft if you wish. Catflap08 (talk) 15:36, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Catflap08: I've added coordinates with this edit. I don't see anything particularly unsuitable about the positioning of the images in the draft, but if one were to use Template:Infobox settlement, one could put both the coat of arms and one of the images into the infobox. Deor (talk) 20:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Catflap08 (talk) 05:18, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Butch Hartman

i was looking at the Danny Phantom page and notice a fair bit of it maybe Self-published as well as questionable sources as sources on themselves so i start looking at other pages related to Butch Hartman and notice samiler they see :Template:Butch Hartman for full list of the pages. usally for his youtube channel. Fanoflionking 16:36, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Paid Editing Report

I have a friend who asked me to create a Wikipedia profile for him but I declined due to conflict of interest rules. I explained this to my friend but he would not understand it and insisted that I create a page for him saying all his mates have Wikipedia profiles. Later, he offered me USD250, again I declined. Days later he told me that he had seen an editor who would do it for him at $200 but I did not say anything because he said I was jealous of his achievements and that was the reason I refused to create the page for him. After few days, he came back to plead that I should guarantee that I would not delete the article. I suspected that the editor he paid to create the page must have advised him to plead with me not to report this issue because the editor is aware of the consequences of such behavior. For days I was confused whether to report the editor that would create the page or not because reporting the editor may lead to the deletion of the article which may be unfair to my friend. But if I keep mute this editor will continue with his unethical activities here. So decided that the issue should come before senior editors to investigate. Two weeks ago I saw the article live in public space. The subject of the article is in sports. I checked to see the editor that created the article and I was surprised that it is a senior editor who has a number of editor's rights. If anyone had told me that this editor engages in paid editing I would not believe it. This editor has moved hundreds of articles from main space to draft space for the sole reason of 'under sourced' even when many of such articles would survive AFD should they pass through that process. This editor marks several articles for deletion within minutes and I wonder how he conducts WP:BEFORE before nominating articles for deletion. This editor does this to mask his paid editing activities. This editor does this to create the impression that he is doing a great job thereby diverting attention from his paid editing. I want to plead that the article in question should not be deleted because it's subject is not aware of Wikipedia rules. The senior editor who violated the rules should be punished. This editor is Lapablo. Should this editor attempt to deny it I will bring hard evidence against him. Paid editing is a serious offense here. I urge this editor to disclose all his paid editing immediately. Supolsanko (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Supolsanko: and welcome to the Teahouse. I am copying this over to the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard shortly, which is were we discuss such issues. Should be there in a few minutes.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at COIN can be found here. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:54, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Supolsanko Thank you for having the courage to speak out, to help us protect this encyclopaedia from people that want to corrupt and destroy it. --ColinFine (talk) 18:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Article A has many references to person P with his/er own article. How often to link from article A to article about B?

The article about Matuschka has 3 references to Don Snyder who has his own Wikipedia article. Two references are within the same paragraph. How often should we provide the link? I am concerned about the reader encountering too many links for the same person. A) Every instance. B) First instance in a paragraph. C) First instance in a section. D) First instance in the article. I think it's between B and C. The article about Matuschka (note: no link) is well-divided into sections and paragraphs.

Thank you in advance for your input. Greenwayfriend (talk) 17:27, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Greenwayfriend:, your friend here is the Manual of Style sections on overlinking and duplicate links. From the latter: Generally, a link should appear only once in an article... but if it seems helpful to the reader, then the links can be repeated. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Super. Correction: I also have a friend Eggishorn. The article has so many long sections. I may go for 1st instance in section. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenwayfriend (talk • contribs) 17:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Rare coin

Hi I have 1rare euro coin and I want to sell it please help. reply pleaae Mbuulu (talk) 18:40, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Mbuulu This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia, not to offer things for sale. Sorry. 331dot (talk) 18:45, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Mike Clark (critic)

Hello, I have created a stub article for late film critic Mike Clark, it was supposed to creat it at my sandbox but, created at my talk page by mistake, now i want to delete the redirect but i don't know how to do that. Hope you can help, Thanks -- Stephen Chandler (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC) Stephen Chandler (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Stephen Chandler: You could have just edited your talk page to remove everything on it. I've done it for you. Deor (talk) 19:48, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Deor: Your help is much appreciated. Best Stephen Chandler

The 'User Contrib' Template

Hello!

I posted on the Teahouse earlier but as I have explored Wikipedia further today I have another question.

I am unsure about the usage of the User Contrib template. It states in the documentation that it links to X!'s Tools by default to show a user's edit count. This doesn't seem to work.

Also, is the Teahouse the right place to ask questions like this?

Thanks. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 19:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@SeparateTitan92: Welcome to Wikipedia. What parameters are you passing into the template and what it is that is not working? RudolfRed (talk) 19:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Hello and thanks. I currently have just copied the code from the page, keeping just 'N'. I assume that this is not the correct way to use the module but I don't know what I should enter.

It is not showing my updated edit count, just 'N+'. I would like to add 'lang', 'articles' and 'distinct' as parameters. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 19:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@SeparateTitan92: My reading of the documentation is that it does not fill in the count automatically. You need to replace N with the count you want it to show. As for the other parameters, go ahead and fill those in if you want to. It looks like all the info is at the xtools link in the user box: [1] RudolfRed (talk) 20:06, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

example: {{User contrib|20|lang=English|articles=3|distinct=8}}

20+This user has made more than 20 contributions to the English Wikipedia, over 3 of which were to articles, on over 8 distinct pages.

. Hope this helps RudolfRed (talk) 20:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@SeparateTitan92: RR is correct. By "links to X!'s Tools", it means that the "more than N contributions" phrase is made a link to those tools, not that it automatically retrieves edit counts. I don't know of a template that does that. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:52, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: @AlanM1: Okay, I understand now. Thanks for the help. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 08:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

M120 Rak mortar

Hi this od new article and i would like to someone saw/review it :D  Polskiarmator123 (talk) 20:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Polskiarmator123. It looks pretty good at a very quick glance. There is a 9,943 artcle backlog for our volunteer reviewers to check and approve new articles. This can take quite some time, so please be patient. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Bally Total Fitness inception date is not correct

 2600:1700:DFE0:8500:AC4F:D6E7:A1A1:2C4C (talk) 22:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Please post at Talk:Bally Total Fitness and provide a reliable source for the correct date. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Self-Aggrandizing or Astroturfing

Hi all, while updating Inonotus_obliquus to remove an awkward citation I noticed the user in question has done this quite a few times in various articles, and seems to be seeding academic citations into Wikipedia of their own work based on the commonality of the name "Chi Chung Lin" in many of them. Not sure what best path is here, whether I should just go and try to quietly clean them all up, or what is considered canonical/appropriate. Thanks in advance for any advice. MKV (talk) 22:33, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Michaelkvance: At a quick glance, it's hard to say. I've not looked at the papers to assess how relevant they really are. For now, I shall AGF. But I have left a message on the editor's talk page, asking them not only to mark every edit as 'minor', but also to work out how to add inline citations properly. Sorry that's all I can do at this late hour. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Removed some where it was clear that the added reference did not support the text. Also some reference fixing. David notMD (talk) 10:33, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Belgian minister Maggie De Block's private life on her page in Dutch

Isn't it the best for Wikipedia that celebrities edit their page themselves? I'm quite good in translating from English to Dutch but who says that's permitted. The latter is not a question. She lives on only 16 km in a nutshell from me. Goalsurfer (talk) 01:42, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Goalsurfer. Most people find it very difficult to write neutrally about themselves, and the neutral point of view is a core content policy. Please read WP: AUTOBIOGRAPHY for general guidance on this issue. As for the Dutch language article, you should discuss that on the Dutch Wikipedia. Here at the Teahouse, we offer advice only about editing the English Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: English article is Maggie De Block. David notMD (talk) 01:55, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

changing an articles title

I've been amending details in "The Dark Side of the Moon" page, the Pink Floyd album. The proper title is "Dark Side of the Moon" and the inclusion of the superfluous "The" at the start drives me nuts. No one says "The Sergeant Peppers" or "The Pink Floyd" etc. I can't edit the page title though. How can this be done? Fullabubbles (talk) 08:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Fullabubbles Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Changing the title of an article requires a page move; you can request a page move at requested moves. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Your edits were reverted by an editor who stated that The Dark Side of the Moon is the official title of the album. Start a discussion at the Talk page of the article if you believe you can cite sources that refute this. David notMD (talk) 10:42, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Inserting an image:

Hi everyone,

How can I include an image in my article? It's not my photo although I do have permission to use it.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks! --MattHHM (talk) 11:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC) MattHHM (talk) 11:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to The Teahouse, please don't concern yourself with adding photographs unless you are the copyright holder, your draft User:MattHHM/sandbox has zero sources yet. In order to demonstrate notability, you will need to provide multiple references to in-depth articles written about Hot House Music School in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books or online. Any article should be based on them alone, we have no interest in what they want to say about themselves, we can visit their own website for that. Theroadislong (talk) 12:49, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Using Template:R ?

Hello! I'm about to start formatting some references on an article, and I was doing some research to see how to do that best. I'm pretty sure I want to use Help:List-defined_references and plan to use the script User:Kaniivel/Reference_Organizer to help. I also came across Template:R, which seems rather elegant and uncluttered. However, I notice the in-editor cite template does not have an option for formatting in this way—are there any issues I should be aware of? Or does anyone have advice/experience they can give me? Douginamug (talk) 11:56, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Douginamug. You didn't specify the article, nor identify just how masochistic you actually are, but what you are proposing seems to me overly complicated for a new editor. In fact, in my 10 years here I’ve never used this method to add references. I suggest that, unless there is a particularly good reason for doing it the way you have proposed, you simply follow standard inline citation protocols as explained at WP:REFBEGIN. You can reuse references by following the advice at WP:REFNAME, and I've never felt the need to install scripts to help me add citations. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Douginamug: Other editors should probably weigh in on this, but I don't think list-defined references or Template:R is used very often since most editors are pretty used to defining references the standard way. Placing your references in a different format might confuse some newer editors (including me). Also, from tinkering around with it a bit, it seems like list-defined references are not editable at all in VisualEditor, while standard ones are; this is problematic for newer editors that don't know wiki markup. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Douginamug, I was on a kick to use LDR a few years ago. A major advantage is that it produces less clutter when using the source editor. However, the visual editor finally figured out how to do references, and solved other problems, so creating references using the visual editor is extremely easy 99% of the time, far easier than LDR, and the visual editor you doesn't have the clutter of the source editor view, so I pretty much abandoned LDR. in short, the advantages of LDR have pretty much disappeared. Is there a reason you wish to use LDR rather than VE? S Philbrick(Talk) 17:17, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Personally I like list-defined references, Douginamug and I tend to use them when i create a new article. In my view they do notm add much complexity, but some of the newer tools do not support them well. (I detest the Visual Editor, by the way.) I have not used User:Kaniivel/Reference_Organizer, so i cannot speak to its merits or problems. LDRs are really very little different from named references, which most editors who have done much work will understand. I tend to prefer {{RP}} to {{R}}, but either can be used. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

IS CONTRIBUTING A WASTE OF TIME?

Is an effort to correct an article's inaccuracy really taken seriously? A few years ago, I saw a blatant inaccuracy about the date and place of death of someone. I attempted to amend the data. The character in question (i.e. the "someone") had died "CODE BLUE" in the next room to me in the same hospital where I was recovering from my own myocardial infarction. My correction, within a day or less, was eliminated. The error was restored. I am writing now only because I have a colleague who suffered (appropriate word) the same experience. We (the colleague and I) have different areas of interest and/or skill. He thought as I did that contributions normally would be welcome.

Would appreciate a reply ... including, given your caution about email addresses, how you will deliver a reply. 2601:194:C080:4980:357D:97B7:DB85:422B (talk) 13:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

One reply is right here: No contributions are accepted unless they comply with the Core Content Policies, which include Neutral Point of View, Verifiability, and No Original Research. "Somebody on the internet says a person died in the hospital room next to them," is not compliant with either the second or the third of those policies. So, yes, it is a waste of everyone's time, you own included, to try to contribute that to Wikipedia. Wikipedia reports what is recorded in reliable sources, not what individual editors think is "true". I hope that helps explain the policies here. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:08, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Could I jump in here (I am not a teahouse host, so don't take this answer as definitive). I assume that the person who died had an existing page in Wikipedia. If so, that indicates that the person was "notable", in which case it is likely that an obituary or appreciation of the person was published somewhere at the time of their death - perhaps in their local paper, or a journal dealing with their special field or occupation. If you could find such a reference, you could edit the article again, giving the reference as a citation. In that case, I would think that the edit would be accepted. (Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.)

-- Mike Marchmont (talk) 14:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Mike Marchmont: That's a perfect add on answer - thank you. You don't have to be a Teahouse Host to give good answers, and none of us here would ever suggest that our answers are "definitive". We are all just doing our best to help out whenever we can.

And to add a reply to the IP editor and their colleague: Yes, it can seem like a terrible slight to have something you know for a fact removed as 'unproven' or 'uncited', but with over 6 million articles here, we can only ensure we present reliable information by asking all contributors to support what they say with a link to a Reliable Source that allows someone on the other side of the world to go to a library, bookshop or internet cafe and verify that statement for themselves. It's a de facto thing for us to do to challenge or remove any uncited statement about someone - especially that of a living or recently deceased person. This is what sets Wikipedia apart from all those Q&A forums which anyone can answer as they see fit, and nobody knows if the answer is right or wrong. We never respond to editors be email (and as an unregistered IP user, we won't have yours anyway). But I will leave a link to this post on your current IPv6 user talk page, with a link to help you create a free account. We'd be delighted to have you contributing here, and the Teahouse is here to assist all new editors with problems. Once you've mastered the basics with just a little bit of reading and practice, you'll soon appreciate that Contributing is not a waste of time - especially if you are able to share and distil down your specialist knowledge about a subject, basing it on existing, published works. Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC).

Due to the nature of IPv6, the OP is unlikely to get that address again, so here's a link to the talk page at which the helpful links are posted: User talk:2601:194:C080:4980:357D:97B7:DB85:422B. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I have problems with Chembox

Hi, I have a problem with my chembox template. Some content I wanted to get it inside the chembox was shown outside. How to fix this? Please answer. Yours sincerely

Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 14:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Nihaal The Wikipedian: I'm afraid your question is not quite specific enough for me to know how to help you. Please could you explain more precisely which page you are trying to add a template to, link to the template you want to add, what content you are trying to add, and possibly show a WP_:DIFF to demonstrate any problems? That way we don't have to go fishing through your edits to try to guess what it is that you want to achieve. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I have done all correct steps and put information in the chembox edit window but it came out of the box. I also lost my edit ones in methyl hexanoate. Please fix this. Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Nihaal The Wikipedian (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

First article - formatting question

Hello, I have written and sourced my first article. I have completed the format of citations for book, foreign language book and journal and feel confident that they are correct and will work since I've done that already in the editing process. I have placed links to other Wikipedia articles inside of [[Other Wikipedia article]]. The chapter headings I have put in the ==chapter title== format. Will the table fo contents automatically be generated (like in Word)? Or do I have to do that manually? Does the conventional long name provide the main title of the article on the upper header? Or does that have to do with the information box on the upper right? I am assuming that the references are automatically generated from the citations. Is this correct? Do i provide the further reading and external links? Or are these optional for a short first article? Anything else I should know before submitting to the Wizard? I have already disclosed my relationship with the project and associated Institute. Thanks! Hroberth Dunbar (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Not sure what article you are talking about (please can you link) but I can answer a few of your questions.

• Tables of contents are automatically generated, no need to worry. :)
• Whatever name you create the page under will be the title. The name at the top of the infobox is entirely seperate and they are unrelated code-wise.
• References are automatic but you need to create a == References == header and then add {{reflist}} underneath and it will auto-generate.
• Ideally you should add the further reading and external links when creating an article but they are not a priority then. Yes, you will need to add them yourself.

Hope this helps! Regards, Giraffer (munch) 15:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Giraffer, I haven't uploaded it to the Article Wizard yet. If you would be so kind to take a look, should I upload there it as a draft or in the sandbox, sorry, not so sure how this works yet. Since I am indirectly associated th the project through my job at the University (not directly with the project itself) I tried to write in a neutral and objective tone and simply relay the facts from the sources. Still, it would be good to get feedback on that too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hroberth Dunbar (talk • contribs) 16:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

No problem. I would create it in draft namespace ideally as it makes it slightly more obvious for others to edit. Just search (in the top right) the name you want, i.e. Draft:Example. It shouldn't come up, so just click the start/create this page and then copy paste your info in and hit publish. It won't be published as an article until it gets through AfC or you publish it (I recommend the former for new users). Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you want me to look over it for NPOV. Regards, Giraffer (munch) 17:08, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I posted the article as a draft. I assume you should be able to find it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Handschriftencensus I have not yet submitted it. One glich seems to be that when I put the title of the article inside of <nowiki> ' ' 'title' ' ' it didn't turn out like in published articles. Should I attribute this to the fact the article is yet to be published, or did i do it wrong? Also, the red notices in the references I am not sure about. What are they about? Again, did i do something wrong or do the references need to be double checked? I would greatly appreciate your feedback and any needed further instructions. Is the tone neutral by your reading? Thanks!

Hello, Hroberth Dunbar. I don't know what you mean about the title: I don't see anything wrong. An article doesn't contain its title (except, usually, as a word in the first paragraph). The title of the article is the name of the page in the Wikipedia data base: you change it by moving the page, and if it is in draft space, its title begins with "Draft:". Does that answer your question?

As for the red warnings: most of your references have both a pages parameter and a page parameter. So for example your first reference says {{cite book |last1=Gamper |first1=Rudolf |last2=Glassner |first2=Christine |editor-last=Golob |editor-first=Natasa |title=Medieval Autograph Manuscripts |publisher=Brepols Publishers |date=2013 |pages=291–302 |chapter=Chapter 20: “Handschriftencensus” and “Handschriftenarchiv”: German Medieval Manuscripts Online |isbn=978-2-503-54916-3 |page=291}} (where I have bolded the problem values). I presume that "pages=291-302" refers to the whole paper, and "page=291" is where the information is which is being cited: if so, then the "pages" parameter should be removed. On the other hand, another reference (to the same source) has "pages=291-302" and "page=292-294". That one probably wants to lose the "pages" parameter, but the "page" parameter to be renamed "pages". I notice that you have referenced the same paper several times. One way of making this clearer is to combine them into a single source, using named references; though you would then need to use the {{rp}} template to specify the page numbers outside the reference. --ColinFine (talk) 19:26, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

How to find a tutor

Hi, I wanna help to build wikipedia and I wonder if it will be a tutor that can help me. Marco Marcomkc (talk) 16:41, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @User:Marcomkc! I would recommend the Adopt-a-user program; I've seen a lot of people who have really benefitted from it. Hope this helps! Ghinga7 (talk) 17:04, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marcomkc: Welcome to the Teahouse. I am going to respectfully disagree with the advice given by User:Ghinga7, simply because I don't think you've been here long enough yet for anyone to offer to adopt you. It's a big two-way committment between both editors, and so the 'adoption' scheme is really only suited to editors who have already understood some of the basics, and now want to be guided into becoming beantter editors. With just four edits under your belt, I'm afraid there would be little prospect of that scheme working for you. BUT...we're here at the Teahouse to help you day or night! We have friendly Hosts able to answer your editing questions, or point you towards guidance pages where you can read how to do things for yourself. And if you ask nicely, we might even serve you a hot cup of tea, too! I have left a page of informative links on your talk page, but if that seems too many, just start by following Help:Introduction, or try and collect all 15 badges by doing our interactive tour called "The Wikipedia Adventure"! Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 18:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC)   

Good point Nick. I forgot the need to have a bit of experience before being adopted. My bad! Ghinga7 (talk) 19:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marcomkc: I think it's also worth pointing out that I never went through the adoption program to learn Wikipedia. I have learnt in the way Nick has described. I asked questions here to get me to where I am now as an editor on Wikipedia. I hope you enjoy editing here and I wish you all the best. Interstellarity (talk) 21:31, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Interstellarity. That's a helpful thing to say. As well as being a Teahouse Host for the last 2 years or more, I have also acted as an adopter for really committed editors, too. It's a different kind of interaction, but the Teahouse is genuinely the best way for new editors to get really quick answers to the problems they encounter, and from a multitude of helpers. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Remarks

Dear Tea House experts,

Some days ago I made some remarks at the talk page of the article Vietnamese language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_language. In the following you can see my remarks:

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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Vietnamese language Dear author(s) , I have some remarks concerning the article Vietnamese language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_language 1) Section Language variation, in the penultimate sentence: "Most Southerners, when singing modern/old popular Vietnamese songs or addressing the public, do so in the Standardised accent if possible (which is Northern pronunciation). This is true in Vietnam as well as in overseas Vietnamese communities." My remarks: Northern pronunciation is not a standardised accent, even if in case of singing modern/old popular Vietnamese songs northern pronunciation is used. Popular south vietnamese opera CAI LUONG is only sung in Southern Vietnamese. Popular south vietnamese folklore DAN CA MIEN NAM is only sung in Southern Vietnamese. Northern pronunciation is not a standardised accent, even in case of addressing the public, unless peope adressing the public are northern vietnamese speakers. By the way: It should be very interesting to explore/investigate, why modern (I guess, you mean western style-based music) songs are performed in northern vietnamese, although in the north vietnamese dialect words are pronounced differently than in the written form, e.g. ra and da are pronounced as za, trang is pronounced as chang. See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Vietnamese. 2) Reference Number 46: "In southern dialects, v is increasingly being pronounced [v] among educated speakers. Less educated speakers have [j] more consistently throughout their speech." My remarks: I am sorry. It is simply wrong, if you are writing "educated speakers are pronouncing v like [v] and less educated speakers still use [j]. It is not a question of EDUCATED or LESS EDUCATED. In my opinion it is an INSULT, when writing less educated speakers are pronouncing v as [j]. Thank you for your time. Sincerely yours, Nguyen --2001:A61:2542:C001:415C:42C2:B0B0:421C (talk) 13:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In the last sentence "Sincerely yours, Nguyen --2001:A61:2542:C001:415C:42C2:B0B0:421C (talk) 13:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)", the word "talk" is marked in RED. So, I have no idea whether my remarks are now confirmed or not. My request: Can you please give me a "short" information about the meaning of the "RED Flag" of the word Talk? Thank you in advance.

Sincerely yours, Nguyen --2001:A61:2542:C001:54A7:A860:85C6:6FBC (talk) 17:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC) 2001:A61:2542:C001:54A7:A860:85C6:6FBC (talk) 17:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Dear IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse. Ignoring for a moment your IP address, it is quite pointless posting your views or concerns on your own talk page - nobody at all will see them, so nobody will respond to them. If you have concerns about an article, you should have posted ost them at the article's own talk page, which other interested editors will be following. i.e. at Talk:Vietnamese language. Or, if you have concerns about another editor's approach to editing, you could have posted your concerns on just their talk page. I have checked Talk:Vietnamese language, and nobody has left a message on that page since August 2019. I suspect you thought you were posting there, but in reality you posted it at User talk:2001:A61:2542:C001:415C:42C2:B0B0:421C I would also point out that the userpage for that IP address has not been created, so will appear red, not blue.

You are using an IPv6 address. So, are you aware that your system (quite legitimately) will be using multiple, but similar-looking IP addresses over a set range of possible addresses, slowly changing them over a number of days? So far, you have used two such addresses, but in time it will be many more. We call this the "/64" range. Here are your three contributions in total: Special:Contributions/2001:A61:2542:C001:415C:42C2:B0B0:421C/64. When your system uses a new address, you will look to everyone else just like a new editor, so either your user page and/or your user talk page will appear red in your signature. (Meaning: When a hyperlink goes to an existing page, it will appear blue. But if it links to a page -such as the talk page of a brand new user - it will appear red. We call that a REDLINK Only after the user - or someone else- edits that page will it then appear as a functioning blue link.) This confusion is the perfect reason for you to register for a free Wikipedia account and edit only when logged in with it. If someone leaves a message for you on a now aautomatically abandoned Ip address of yours, you will miss it completely, unless you check back. Not only that, but nobody will then be able to tell which part of Bavaria you are in - or even which part of the world! I hope this makes sense. I have left you a welcome message on your current IPv6 page, with a link to creating an account. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:15, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

... that being User talk:2001:A61:2542:C001:54A7:A860:85C6:6FBC —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I was asked to add more public articles to prove the person is a person of note

I was asked to add more public articles to prove the person is a person of note:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Page in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:James_Fortune_(photographer)

I have scan's of several print articles from magazines, how do I include those? I have the Washington post. His photographs have been used inside and on the cover of: Smithsonian Rock and Roll: Live and Unseen. Photographer James Fortune's Led Zeppelin photo on the cover. I included many links in the article.

I think I need someone else to help me with the article since I am related to him? Brandyfortune (talk) 18:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Brandyfortune, and welcome to the Teahouse. Sources need not be online, and published offline sources may be cited by simply providing the bibliographic information suite as the title, the name of the publication, the author if stated, the date, and the publisher if not redundant with the publication. For books an ISBN is also helpful. Many newspapers have online archives, sometimes free, often requiring payment. I have access to some of those, including the Washington Post and the NY Times. Other editors here will have access to others.

Do note that it is not so much where his photos have been used, as where others have written about him. Do the articles you have contain writings of people not affiliated with James Fortune that are about him? Can you add to Draft talk:James_Fortune_(photographer) a list of the articles you have that you think most significant and a brief summery of their contents? Please include titles and dates. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I just tried uploading some articles about him he took photos of the magazine articles for me but it says they are copyright strikes. I did add a few without the links to the article today. I feel totally lost here and if I am not supposed to update it myself where could I find a wikipedia contributor who loves rock and roll but has no relation to him so they could take away any bias? I tried very hard to be neutral. Sadly several articles speak about his photographs without his actual name. Even TMZ has an article about a lawsuit but does not name him, which for many reasons is desired.. but now trying to cite things becomes difficult. he has been interviewed on tv, been written about in the newspaper and his shows have been written about so Ic an find more from him but a lot of them are not online or they used to be but the websites have taken them down for being too old. He's in many galleries so many galleries have bio's about him but it didn't seem like those mitered. His photographs have also been used for some albums (Led Zeppelin for example) so I could try to find a way to cite that also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandyfortune (talk • contribs) 19:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Brandyfortune please do not upload scans or pictures of source articles. They are likely to be deleted as copyright infringements, and are neither needed nor helpful as sources. I am willing to try to work with you on this. y knowledge odf Rock and Roll is limited, but my knowledge of Wikipedia editing is pretty good. Please, as I suggested, simply provide article titles, publications, dates, and authors. Please add these to Draft talk:James_Fortune_(photographer) and I will be able to see them and assist further. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:23, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Brandyfortune if you can put the information for the sources on the talk page, along with the claims they support, as DESiegel suggests, that would be helpful. I have tried to clean up the article,a s he seems notable, but it is a bit tricky as there is so much information. A lot of it is unsourced, so a posting on the talk page with sources would help. No promises as to whether that will be enough though.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Okay thank you so much, I didn't realize to use the talk page that way. I don't even know how to like.. tag people on here yet! Thank you.

UPDATE: I have added them, but they are what I thought I already linked it may just get lost but its all on the talk page the ones that seem the "best" references". I can try to get more like he's done shows at art galleries and it may be possible for me to find more articles about him that way but I would need to do more research. I really thought this stuff would be enough but some is out of print.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandyfortune (talk • contribs) 21:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Third Party intervention

What do I need to do to get an uninvolved third party to take a look at something that seems unresolvable, and how do I do it? [2]. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC) Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Welcome to Wikipedia. Look at WP:DR and WP:3O for options. RudolfRed (talk) 19:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you RudolfRed I have gone and looked at both of those. It looks like maybe an RFC might be a good way to begin. Does the inclusion of your talk page indicate a willingness to take a look at it yourself? That would be awesome if so, and then perhaps you could tell me if an RFC is the right way to proceed. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Should wikipedia use present or past tense for current events?

The wiki article, 2020_Beirut_explosions says: "The blast WAS regarded as having been among the most powerful non-nuclear explosions in history"

I think it should say "The blast IS regarded as having been among the most powerful non-nuclear explosions in history" Disoff (talk) 20:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Disoff, adn welcome to the Teahouse. While i haven't looked specifically at 2020_Beirut_explosions, MOS:TENSE says:

By default, write articles in the present tense, including those covering works of fiction (see Wikipedia:Writing better articles § Tense in fiction) and products or works that have been discontinued. Generally, do not use past tense except for past events, subjects that are dead or no longer meaningfully exist, or periodicals and similar written material that are no longer being produced.

That seems to support your position. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

If the sentence was "The blast was among the most powerful non-nuclear explosions in history", then I'd agree with use of the past tense (as it's referring to a past event), but the "regarded" matters here - presumably it is still regarded as such, so phrased like that, it should be in the present tense. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

However, the article itself is about a specific event, now past, and is correctly written in the past tense. The sentence quote above has now been changed to the present tense. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

How to archive urls

There is a script that will take urls and back them up on the Internet Archive, but I've never used it and can't find it.

My immediate concern, if it's relevant, is to archive the urls in es:Discusión:Esquivias. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 00:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello! To activate InternetArchiveBot, go to the page history of the page you want its external URIs archived and click on "Fix dead links". SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 03:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

What happens if others come on a page and delete or mess up sources and information

What can one do about other people who come along and change books, podcasts and other information for sources on a subject that were once accurate, but they delete and change ISBN's etc. and even delete books just to mess with the page. What can be done about that - I found that ISBN's had been changed on purpose to misdirect people and things are deleted just because someone may not like an author - what can we do to make this not happen in the future? It is time consuming to come along after them and try to fix all that they mess up or delete just to be mean (like children) Please advise. Thanks! Rosalind Rosalind15! (talk) 02:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rosalind15!. Can you provide a link to the actual article (page) where this is taking place? It will make it much easier for others to assess the situation and see if there is a problem that needs addressing if you can point them to the article you think this is taking place? Sometimes when certain types of edits are being made, they might seem "wrong" but are actually needed to ensure that the article in question is accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Editors often explain why certain edits are made by providing edit summaries and experienced editors almosts always give a policy or guideline reason as to why they made an edit; so, it will be much easier a Tea House host to assess things if they can see the actual edits that were made. We try to assume good faith and that other editors are trying to improve Wikipedia per its policies and guidelines, until we can actually see edits that lead us to believe otherwise.

From looking at your user talk page, it appears that another editor named Berean Hunter added some information about Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for you to take a look at. Berean Hunter is a Wikipedia administrator so it's unlikely they would have add that information without a good reason for doing so, Is this somehow related to that?-- Marchjuly (talk) 03:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Contributing with COI

I work as technical support for a Canadian retail news outlet (Retail Insider Canada) and have access to tons of archival articles (breaking 'retail' news back to 2012 in Canada). When stores opened, closed, etc. which could be useful for bolstering various Retailer Wikipedia pages. For example, if Canada Goose opened a new store in Ottawa - I also have reports stretching back through the years of each of their retail store openings which I could cite from the archives. Naturally, most of my sources are from (Retail Insider Canada) but the retailers have not paid (Retail Insider Canada) as it is a news desk. Retailers would also be unhappy with Wikipedia being updated with closures, bankruptcy information, etc. which comes through as well.

I happily made 43 contributions and was identified as having a COI with all changes removed. Is there any 'proper' way to be able to positively, or am I completely not eligible to edit Wikipedia due to my heavy reliance on news reported by (Retail Insider Canada).

I am completely open to guidance as I enjoyed updating Wikipedia, but fully understand if this is a hard-stop for Wikipedia. Lee-RI-Canada (talk) 03:30, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lee-RI-Canada. Try taking a look at WP:COIADVICE and WP:PSCOI#Steps for engagement. There are ways for COI editors to contribute to articles about subjects they might be connected to, but these almost always involve making WP:EDITREQUESTs on article talk pages. — Marchjuly (talk) 03:52, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

whats going on?

whats going on? 185.48.63.24 (talk) 03:33, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

What's going on seems to be that your recent edit to 2020 World Snooker Championship was properly reverted and you were justifiably warned on your user talk page not do something like that again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:56, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Lacking True Comprehensive Coverage

Regarding wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(company) While on first glance the page appears to have a very comprehensive table of contents. But it is mind boggling that no content has been retained, by Wikipedia, containing content with the the company's history of dismal delivery services. Thanks in advance for seriously considering reinstating what content surely must have been composed for the article, and the accommodation of a more accurate and comprehensive study of the company. 2600:1700:5F20:18E0:BD98:2146:A808:338 (talk) 04:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

If you can find reliable sources (as deemed acceptable by Wikipedia) that discuss or otherwise comment any problems that Amazon might be having with its delivery services that's something which is not undue and can be worded in a neutral manner in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, the perhaps can be added to the article. My suggestion to you would be start a discussion about this at Talk:Amazon (company), providing information of the sources you think support such claims and see what others might think. The article is probably one that has a lot of editors watching it; so, it shouldn't be too hard to get a discussion going.

On the other hand, if you or some people you know just have had some bad experiences or are otherwise unhappy with the company, then a Wikipedia article is not really the best place to try and seek satisfaction for that per Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Tendentious editing#Righting great wrongs. Perhaps contacting the company directly might be a better idea. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:11, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Need Help With A Movie Article

Hello,

I am looking for some help regarding this movie's page "https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12492650/?ref_=rvi_tt"

Can I go ahead and make a page for this movie? I have a similar movie page from where I can copy the format.

Thanks, Ablasaur (talk) 05:09, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Ablasaur (talk) 05:09, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Generally, Wikipedia articles about films need to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (films) for them to avoid being deleted; so, if you think this film does, then perhaps you can start by creating a draft first and then submitting it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review when you think it's ready. If you not sure whether the film is Wikipedia notable, you can try asking about it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films since the members of that WikiProject should be able to tell you one way or another. Someone from that WikiProject may even help create the article if they feel the film is Wikipedia notable. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand that completely, that's why I am here :) @Marchjuly:. Ablasaur (talk) 05:46, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Question on page

How Can I Make My WikiPedia Page , Can I Did It Or Not Jewkoiyie1 (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Jewkoiyie1, Wikipedia only writes about folks who are notable. A YouTuber with less than a million subs is very unlikely to be notable. Also, Wikipedia is not for writing about yourself. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 05:38, 11 August 2020 (UTC)