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Gavin McInnes is a member of the Knights of Columbus. This seems to be relevant information, due to his Catholic beliefs and the fact that he formed his own male fraternity, and both of them confer 4 degrees for their members. Proud Boys degree levels being modeled after the KoC degrees. 68.198.4.72 (talk) 14:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jack Frost (talk) 15:16, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is this supposed to be "racist"?

In the section Race and ethnicity, it states "in 2018, [McInnes] said there was significant "black violence" in the United States, with 8,000 cases a year of black-on-black murder". Is this statistic wildly wrong or why is this statement quoted in this section? It's implied the statement is racist or at least somehow significant. Without additional context it just sounds like a man quoting a statistic. Is that a noteworthy fact? Also, as far as I've read, the numbers are at least in the ballpark. 46.109.77.155 (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "the son of James McInnes, who later became the Vice-President of Operations at Gallium Visual Systems Inc. – a Canadian defence company now known as Kongsberg Geospatial Ltd.[22] – and Loraine McInnes, a retired business teacher.[23]" to "the son of James McInnes and Loraine McInnes, a retired business teacher.[23]". Source 22 should be removed as it makes no mention of the person referenced whatsoever (James McInnes) or the subject of the article itself (Gavin McInnes). Mazesmerak (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Basic grammar change in intro paragraph

From the intro paragraph: "McInnes is known for his controversial promotion of violence against political opponents, and has been described as and far-right, although he denies this label."

The "and" should be removed.

Done Greyjoy^talk 05:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"started this gang"

The introduction states He has rejected this classification, claiming that the group is "not an extremist group and [does] not have ties with white nationalists". and provides a citation, yet in an interview with with Joel Rogan he stated "I started this gang called the Proud Boys" and elsewhere describes other violent acts he encourages it to commit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G95qjjQaNho - should this be added as a counterpoint? Probably with an original source not a supercut video. LamontCranston (talk) 15:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Proud Boys are not extremists or a gang. They are a social group that has gotten involved with protests to both support the current President and counter protest both Antifa and BLM. If you listen to Gavin, you will know most of what he says is meant in humor and he doesn’t choose his words carefully. JudeTheDude2014 (talk) 03:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead's initial description of subject

It seems inappropriate to suggest that the subject is better known for "promoting violence against his political opponents" than he is for co-founding Vice Magazine, the far-right group Proud Boys, or his polemical political commentary. TuffStuffMcG (talk) 14:26, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Masem: is an editor who is good at focusing on WP:NPOV. Perhaps they would have some views on this. I am not agree or disagreeing with OP though, if McInnes is most notable for that then that is what we must include in the article. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:07, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

His founding of Vice and Proud Boys should be top of the list, and you can make the argument that he is far-right, but not an extremist and his rhetoric doesn’t help his “calls to violence.” All the incidents of him or the Proud Boys being violent has been a result of them being attacked first. JudeTheDude2014 (talk) 03:56, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like Gavin McInnes because I'm the opposite of him with regard to views but I don't think it's fair to just label people who have views you may find extreme the same as someone who incites violence. 2A02:C7F:4E0B:F400:A180:B24B:A77D:5811 (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SPLC lawsuit

Hello, the article doesn't mention that the SPLC lawsuit was dismissed (ref). --190.134.223.76 (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]