Talk:The Buddha

Wikipedia has another long section on the Buddha, with info. that could be included here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_Buddhism#The_Buddha

Birth Place of The Buddha

The birth place of The Buddha is undoubtedly Lumbini, now a city in Kapilvastu District of present-day Nepal.

I tried to change it in the first paragraph but it was instantly reverted by Chewing72, perhaps the contributor of the page.

My logic is that it should not be objectionable, for any reason, to anyone to mention the birthplace of The Buddha,stating where it lies now.

Chewing72 had the logic that at the time of The Buddha, there were no Nepal and India. I agree to it.

But, why is it objectionable for him/her to state that Lumbini now lies in Nepal? It should be corrected with immediate effect.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Singa lama (talk • contribs) 06:36, 4 January 2016‎

Nepal is being mentioned in the "Conception and birth" section. Mentioning "Nepal" in the lead-section is undue; the Buddha is known and relevant for his teachings, not for his place of birth. That's only relevant for present-day Nepalese nationalists, not for the person of the Buddha. Please read the note in the infobox. This has been discussed thoroughly before; there is a broad concencus not to mention Nepal, given the nationalistic sentiments at the Indian subcontinent. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Joshua Jonathan, per WP:LEAD the lead should summarize the article; mentioning "Nepal" in the lead-section appears to be undue. The "Conception and birth" section states: "The Buddhist tradition regards Lumbini, in present-day Nepal to be the birthplace of the Buddha." JimRenge (talk) 14:06, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

There is no doubt that Buddha was born in Nepal.But still in countries like neighbouring India it taught in school curriculum and widespread in media that Gautam Buddha was born in India. Kunwar Rabindra (talk) 06:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Ya kunwar rabindra is right so to bring enlightment and awareness on people it is must Ishanbull (talk) 10:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Location of Gautama Buddha's death and parinirvana

Ms Sarah Welsh, thank you for summarizing what modern reliable sources state about the place where Gautama Buddha died. I believe the section gives undue weight to the problem of the localization of the place of Gautama Buddha's death in this article. I propose to move this section to Kushinagara and use some of the refs to verify the corresponding sentence ("Ananda protested the Buddha's decision to enter Parinirvana in the abandoned jungles of Kuśināra (present-day Kushinagar, India)[refs] of the Malla kingdom.") in the Mahaparinirvana section. I think the recently added section "Location of Gautama Buddha's death and parinirvana" in Paranirvana ([[1]]) gives undue weight to the location in the context of this article and should be removed. JimRenge (talk) 00:37, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Maybe a little bit more? Something like "According to Buddhist tradition, the Buddha died at Kushinagara, which became a pelgrimage center." Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:15, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

@JimRenge: Sorry, I never got this ping and missed this talk page completely. Indeed, that section looks odd and I am fine with moving most of it. I was concerned with the mention of just Rampurva from an 1896 publication, ignoring the scholarship that followed over 100+ years. A few sentences on Kushinagara (Kusinagari, Kusinagara, Kusinari) along the lines of what @JJ suggests may be prudent. The mentthision of it being a pilgrimage center since ancient times, of Ashoka, of Gupta's addition of reclining Buddha, of rediscovery may also be worthwhile. I leave it to your call, I have no particular preference on what, where and how. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 10:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Might I suggest that this section be moved to the historical Buddha section? Like others have suggested, we can shorten it a bit, while some details can be given in the footnotes, more or less consistent with how the birth place issue has been tackled. Manoguru (talk) 17:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I have added Joshuas sentence to the "Mahaparinirvana" section and moved the "Location of Gautama Buddha's death and parinirvana" section to Kushinagar. Feel free to correct this. JimRenge (talk) 21:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Indic text in the main article

Indic text for the Pali or Sanskrit words sounds necessary to me throughout the article. This helps preserve the native pronunciations of the Pali/Sanskrit words, which are otherwise often misrepresented in Latin alphabets. For that matter, even Burmese, Sinhalese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese ... text should be allowed to mention in proper context, whenever needed, to preserve the fidelity of the words. An attempt to add Indic words for Shakyamuni Buddha and Sidhhartha Gautam was repeatedly undone by certain users on the grounds that 'No Indic text in the main article, please.'. Are there any rules that disallow usage of non-Latin alphabets or characters in the main body of Wikipedia articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulbikkhu (talk • contribs) 08:13, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

WP:INDICSCRIPT: "There is community consensus that the lead sentence of an article should not contain any regional or Indic language script." JimRenge (talk) 08:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

misconceptions - physical appearance

Buddha was indian like his predecessors and never looked chinese or black like some misconceptions. There are also misconceptions about hygiene. If he was unhygienic in appearance he could not have been religious. Anyone with this info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.98.100.138 (talk) 18:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)