Talk:Philippines

North Bormeo

The map of the Philippines should include North Bormeo as they claims to be part of it (see North Borneo dispute) - Jjpachano (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:36, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

To clarify my understanding of the they and it above, I think it means that the Philippine government claims that a part of North Bprneo is Philippine territory. I haven't gone much beyond reading the lead section of the North Borneo dispute article in attempting to understand this, but that is how I read it. IMO, if this is to become a point of contention in the article, it needs expansion beyond the lead section and supporting sources IAW WP:DUE.

Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 12:01, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

It simply isn't due. CMD (talk) 12:59, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Put Sabah aka North Borneo as light green like South Korea article showing North Korea in light green claiming it and vice versa. Sheanobeano (talk) 22:14, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I want to change the part where it says "Spain ceded the Philippine territory to the United States"

I want to change the sentence " Spain ceded the Philippine Territory to the United States becaise according to some filipinos and historian the Philippines is bought for 20M Dollars and not ceded by Spain. IanPatricC (talk) 12:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. AnnaMankad (talk) 12:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I see no WP:DUE problem in including a short phrase "on a payment of $20,000,000" or "for $20,000,000" in the sentence "In December 1898, the islands were ceded by Spain to the United States with Puerto Rico and Guam after the Spanish–American War." Besides, one of the cited sources mentions this important fact. Sanglahi86 (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Also, for background, see Treaty of Paris (1898) § Negotiations and the treaty text itself]. Per WP:DUE, reliable sources with differing viewpoints should be accommodated, though. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 15:07, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

added: My comment above was made before I saw the indented comment above it. I have no problem with adding the info except (1) it is too fine a detail for the article lead and, perhaps, for this article and (2) it begs further clarification. If the info is added, I suggest adding it as a footnote in the Notes section. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:00, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I have added the detail as a footnote. Feel free to expand/revise or clarify as needed. Regards. Sanglahi86 (talk) 19:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I have reverted the footnote, that is entirely unnecessary detail for the lead. It's not even in the article body. The negotiations following the Spanish-American war were not a simple question, and the payment by the United States was a result of trying to balance competing demands. Presenting it as a payment is a misleading oversimplification. CMD (talk) 03:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah. Spain didn't ask for $20M from the USA. Sheanobeano (talk) 22:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, though I suggested the footnote above, above I do agree with CMD's reversion here. More detail on this is available at Treaty of Paris (1898) § Negotiations, in sources cited there, and in other easily discovered relevant sources. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:22, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2023

Please revert contributions of the user GloverG as pictures uploaded violate copyright. Thank you. 143.44.165.170 (talk) 11:57, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

They appear to have been reverted a couple of days ago, is there something in particular you are pointing out? CMD (talk) 12:20, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

File:Paso+Doble.jpg and File:Arnis-sea-games-2019.jpg have been tagged for deletion since June 26, 2023.

File:SINULOG FESTIVAL CONTINGENTS IN STREET DANCE 08.jpg replaced the previous Ati-atihan image under Holidays and festivals section. Sinulog is already represented in a related photo under Religion section, so I am unsure if the Ati-Atihan image is preferred. If we choose to retain the Sinulog street dance image, it might be better to replace the Religion section's Sinulog image with a pie chart of the top religious denominations. Sanglahi86 (talk) 08:24, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Remove the part where it said Deforestation reached a record high during the Duterte administration in 2017 because of wrong citation

In the "Biodiversity" portion of this article, it's stated that "Deforestation had reached a record high during the Duterte administration in 2017", with citation 237 entitled, "7M hectares Philippine lands are forested-and that's bad news" by the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism on May 12, 2021. I read through that article and the only specific period mentioned was in the portion "Mindoro lost more than 200,000 hectares of forest cover from 2003 to 2015. However, Duterte was elected into office on June 30, 2016. His predecessors, Benigno S. Aquino III (June 30, 2010 to June 30, 2016) and Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (January 20, 2001 to June 30, 2010 were in office during the time period mentioned in the citation. The statement is clearly false if the basis is the citation used and should be changed/removed. Chiniwaki (talk) 13:31, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Waves of migration

The migrations mentioned in the lead refer specifically to the Models of migration to the Philippines, which cover the early peopling of the area. It does not refer to all immigration later times, which at any rate is wider than simply later Chinese and Spanish arrivals. CMD (talk) 05:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

When talking about "migration waves" since Beyer, scholars mostly have focussed on the formative pre-colonial migrations that shaped the population of the entire archipelago. It is simply wrong chronology to mention later migrations of Chinese and people from the Spanish Empire (both Europeans and Mestizos) in the pre-colonial timeline.[1] Also, these people did not arrive as "Sangleys" and "Filipino Mestizos" (except for New World mestizos), these term refers to groups that emerged locally as a result of intermarriage and cultural convergence. But still, while their "physical" impact is largely restricted to urban centers, their cultural influence has been crucial in the formation of Filipino society (and also the formation of political and economical elites), so a one-sentence mention (obviously placed somewhere after Magellan in the text) in the timeline of the second paragraph is fine IMHO. –Austronesier (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

If the aim is to provide demographic and cultural indicators, it would be preferable to create writing obviously within the context of demographics and culture (which the current lead is entirely lacking). CMD (talk) 23:59, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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