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Mosaic Inscription

Dear Eupator, thanks a lot for your swift response. Well the inscription now becomes pretty clear. The first part indeed reads ΜΗΔΕΝ ΛΑΒΟΝΤΕΣ ΗΡΓΑΣΑΜΕΘΑ ("receiving nothing we toiled/laboured/worked" or more simply "we worked for free"). Beneath it you can see two figures and two names written beside them. ΩΚΕΑΝΟΣ (transliterated: OKEANOS meaning "Ocean") and ΘΑΛΑΣΑ, (transliterated THALASA meaning "Sea" - although, as it is common is such late inscriptions, the word is mispelled-the correct form would be ΘΑΛΑΣΣΑ=THALASSA with a double s). The two human figures are actually personifications of the ocean and the sea and the mosaic -if I am not mistaken- should probably date from the late 3rd or 4th century AD. Such mythological representations are actually quite common in the late greco-roman mosaics. They usually depict rivers, mountains even abstract notions such as ΑΙΩΝ (time or eternity), ΑΦΘΟΝΙΑ (abundance)etc. The objects protruding from the heads of the figures should have been crab-grips and wings as you can see in an earlier example from Zeugma here http://www.ubiquityinternational.com/newsimages/oceanus_tethys_mosaic.jpg, where Tethys (the mythological sister of the Ocean) instead of THALASSA = Sea is represented. These attributes would suffice for the identification by the ancient viewer. Of course the Garni mosaic is a later adaptation (maby 2 centuries later) of the same theme. Details have been largely schematized to the point of loosing their original meaning thereby making identification difficult and the explanatory inscriptions necessary (a fact also compatible with the probable late date of the Garni example). The first part of the text has probably to do with the fact that the artists constructed the mosaic without receiving any fee. Similar inscriptions come from mosaics in early christian Basilicas and were intended as a sort of dedication by faithful ΜΟΥΣΕΙΑΡΙΟI artists making the mosaics. In this case I am a bit puzzled because such pagan representations of the Ocean and the Sea would hardly be fitting to a christian establishment... but who knows. Thanks again for your gesture to show me these photos. Armenian monuments (especially the later monastic and church architecture) are absolutely ravishing and (unfortunately) largely uknown--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 00:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed that the mosaic comes from a bathing complex. The personifications of Ocean and Sea are more than fitting for such an establishment but in this case the first part of the text seems more of a complaint against a stingy boss... LOL--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 00:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Founding Inscription

Did you find any of that useful? Unfortunately I haven't managed to trace anything published but I am going to ask a friend who is specializing in epigraphy. Would you by any chance know who has conducted the excavations at Garni. This might help because then I can probably trace some relevant bibliography. I only hope that it won't be only in Russian...--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 09:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for adding a more accurate link on the Gregory the Illuminator article. I was frustrated by the total lack of information on what Armenians might have been converted from, so I went the quickie route. 65.190.92.233 (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting

Thanks for reverting on Flemish (linguistics) after Robbie0513‎ reverted mine. I usually do not mind minors editing wikipedia, but it would be better if they'd only edit the pages they have minimal knowledge of. HP1740-B (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

ru:Торос Рослин

А русскую статью не дополните? Я, честно говоря, недостаточно подкована, немного запуталась.--Shakko (talk) 18:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

о, если у вас проблема с русской клавиатурой, то я не настаиваю на таких жертвах 0_0. Но, с другой стороны, вам поможет www.translit.ru :)--Shakko (talk) 07:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Interview ?

Hello Eupator I don't think that you know me, so I'll introduce myself: I'm one of the few members of the Armenian project on fr, though I'm not Armenian (I'm from Belgium and have no Armenian "roots"). I'm mainly interested in Armenian history but, due to the low number of people interested about writing articles about Armenia on fr, I sometime work on other Armenian-related articles. By default, I'm also in charge of the Armenian Portal on fr. I recently launched a monthly newsletter relating to the Armenian Projects, Des Nouvelles d'Arménie; the idea is about providing members with information on the three projects, like new articles, votes on FA, important progress, ... as well as entertaining the link between each of us. As I said, our number is not very high (13, actually). I was thus wondering whether opening ourselves to the other wiki Armenian projects would be a good idea. In such a case, the en one would be a first choice. I saw that you're the founder of the Portal. Also, whenever I have a look at an en Armenian-related article, I see your name. You definitely seem to be a very good candidate. So here is my question: would you agree to be interviewed for our newsletter? If you do, I think we have enough time to use your interview for the September issue. In case you don't, I would perfectly understand it. So, what do you think about it? You can answer either here or on my talk page here, or on the fr one. In any case, have a good weekend, Sardur (talk) 23:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Parfait ! Je vois que tu parles français, ce sera encore plus simple. Sardur (talk) 10:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, quand tu as un peu de temps, c'est par là Sardur (talk) 22:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Pas de problème, we've got enough time. Sardur (talk) 05:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

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I cannot wrap my head around why you regard the word 'opponent' used in a discussion as uncivil. If I am not mistaken, this is not the first time. In English, the word 'opponent' has multiple related meanings, not necessarily having to do with battlefields, and one of them is: "one that takes an opposite position (as in a debate, contest, or conflict)". [1] I hope that this would not cause any more problems in the future. Parishan (talk) 11:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

South Ossetia

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Mediation Request on "Hemshin peoples"

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Appeal

Hi Eupator, I have filed a request for appeal at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. I'll be looking forward to your support. Cheers PHG (talk) 18:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Armenian cities, towns, and villages

What do you think of Zlerman's suggestion to make kaghak=town, gyugh=village, and large kaghak=city? It seems to be the best idea so far. Since the size of kaghakner varies so widely (>1000 to <100,000) it makes sense to use either "town" or "city" for them. That way we are sticking to a consistent convention, but still using words that make sense in English. Kaldari (talk) 16:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Oh really?

(fm vacio's page)

Yet another admin we need to watch for bias (or more likely for plain oldfashioned shoot-first, think-later, apologise-never). Meowy 21:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh really, what about this diff: here, still on his user page? — Rlevse • Talk • 09:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Toros Roslin

Hi Eupator I recently expanded fr:Matenadaran; I hoped I could bring it to the GA level, but I know now that this is not realistic, mainly due to the lack of established sources... whatever. One of the red links in the French-speaking article is Toros Roslin, an article you're working on. Do you think you're quite done with it ? I would like to translate it (and perhaps expand it a bit with French-speaking sources, if possible), but I would prefer to do it when the :en article is stable. Sardur (talk) 00:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Perfect! I will wait then. Sardur (talk) 10:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Eupator I wanted to tell you that I proposed the translation as a GA, and the result is quite good till now!

Cheers up ! Sardur (talk) 00:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi ! The article is a GA now Sardur (talk) 00:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

hi

I see you had a look at the school in Nottingham with the Armenian link. Is it possible to find anything on this "Lord Byon School" or createa a stub in Armenian? Hope you are intrigued? Victuallers (talk) 19:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC) You're right I had supposed there would be very little, but when I look there is some nmore useful stuff. It would be great if we could do this quickly. Would you mind if we do this together? I know about school articles and I'm hoping you can see articles created in Armenia about this school. What do you think? I'm very keen to start. I see that the school has links with a school in the usa too. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 21:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

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Genocide Denial article

I'm in two minds about how to approach this Philip Baird Shearer. At first I thought they were the actions of an newbie idiot, but now I think they might be well planned. However, well planned or not, I don't see them succeeding. Personally, I think he is a lone gunman type: no support, bee under his bonnet, and a lot of WP:OWN issues. His success here will depend on how much support he gets. I don't think the usual suspects will want to be involved in supporting him because they will know a lost cause when they see it. It might depend on what advantage his admin status gives him. Meowy 15:55, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement

I have asked you questions at the WP:AE thread bearing your username. You may want to answer them. Additionally, if you think Omer182 is a sock, please tell me who you think is the puppetmaster and why. You can provide that info here or on my talk page. I have not decided to do anything yet, but there will eventually be some sort of decision. Jehochman ^Talk 15:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:I'd like to offer my help

One thing; your userpage says you speak armenian, fantastic! For the list we need references for the introduction paragraph, but a lot of sites seem to be in armenian. Is there any chance you could use google to find references for the lead? Ironholds (talk) 03:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks :). The information in question is in My secondary sandbox at the moment; if you could work on that rather than the main article it'd be fantastic. I think we can get it up to Featured status without much of a problem. Ironholds (talk) 03:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi! Please note that I have filed a request for appeal here. Comments welcome! Best regards PHG (talk) 16:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Armenia-Turkey relations

Apparently, Murat/Hudavendigar has a new game. Instead of simply using the title of books as references, he now invents page numbers to go along with them[2]. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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Aragh

Thank you very much for your important comment on my talk page. I will correct Armenian cuisine accordingly and ask you to take a look when it's done. Best, --Zlerman (talk) 14:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

• Please look at what I have done with Oghi on Armenian cuisine. Any additional pointers your can provide regarding Aragh in Armenia or Armenian Diaspora will be much appreciated. Thanks. --Zlerman (talk) 05:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

You are doing a "Sneaky vandalism"

Modification of the original source based on what you think is injection of POV. We go with what the source says. Removing the Kurdish Genocide, though listed in the original source, is a "Sneaky vandalism." --Ahmetsaatalti (talk) 02:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

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Hello(Barev)

Dear Eupator, hope all is going well. I'll leave the article to you, since I do not have time, but I did not deny the Armenian culture of the dynasty. Just wanted to add they had Iranic origin. Anyhow, have a good one. --Nepaheshgar (talk) 19:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt response. I'll let you make the edits and see how it turns out as I am not claiming to be an expert in the region (and you probably know more on the ancient history) but I was just mentioning some sources. --Nepaheshgar (talk) 19:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way Iranica mentions Zoroastrian Armenians existing up to the 20th century and also the Armenian Zoroastrian calendar. I think these would make interesting articles. --Nepaheshgar (talk) 19:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes I am not sure if it is related but I am reffering to this:[3] "But a small group of Armenian Zoroastrians, the Arewordikʿ “Children of the Sun,” never converted to Christianity,... In the early 20th century, the Armenian quarter of Marsovan was called Arewordi; there was a cemetery outside the town called Arewordii grezman, and the Armenian owner of a nearby vineyard was named Arewordean, i. e., Arewordi-son (Letter from Mme. Maricʿa Metakʿsean, Ēpinay-sur-Seine, France, 4 July 1979, in response to an article by the author in Haratch, Paris, 1 July 1979). ". Do you know if this group still exists possibly?--Nepaheshgar (talk) 20:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way here is an example of Orontids: [[http://books.google.com/books? id=9y7nTpFcN3AC&pg=PA23&dq=orontids+iranian&lr=]]. Note their remnants were culturally Armenian and culturally they adopted Armenian Christianity and etc., but their origin seems to be Iranic. I usually thought Iranian influences in the Caucasus can only bring the Caucasus and Iran/Iranian people closer, but usually it has been having the opposite effect for all three countries.  :( --Nepaheshgar (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way what you mentioned was very interesting. Are the Mehr worshippers recent converts from Christianity or actually Armenians who have contiously preserved the religion?--Nepaheshgar (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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Lucera

many thanks to everyone for the editings only 2 points: 1. Sicily became majoritarian latin speaking and RC Catholic between 1240 and 1300, possibly later then 1300 (1400-1500 the greeks became a negligible minority and the last speakers disappeared probably in the XVI century, the last basilian monks dismissed the last remnats of greek between 1700 and 1761 - in 1761 the monastery San Michele Arcangelo di Troina was rebuilt and reorganized as fully western and roman), when Frederick became the King the RCs were the dominant group but possibly not yet the majority, may be "dominant" could be more correct 2. Louis IX is frequently titled "Re Santo", particularly in the catholic sources, that's the reason I used "Holy King", may be "King and Saint" would be a better solution in english regards Cunibertus (talk) 14:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Armenians

Look at your own edit [5] in July 19, 2009, elaborated no mixed Azeri and Armenian families. [6] 76.250.9.254 (talk) 21:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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Obviously, your have much more authority on here and your words carry much more weight around the editors so please monitor this page The Armenian Genocide (film) and keep it edited as you see fit, rather than letting turn into another nationalistic field day for our friends over here. The talk page says more than enough about the current situation of the article and the editor reverting my changes. Obviously I am naught but a newbie on here, but Wikipedia's core philosophy has been that this shall be a user's encyclopedia one which can be edited and maintained by its readers and not a place of tyranny by an active minority or a vocal bunch, disenfranchising the exact demographic this website was made for. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.238.146 (talk) 12:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Ancient Roman inquires

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Ping

I have sent you an e-mail. --Tenmei (talk) 07:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Gandz

Hi, I am not experienced with the rules here. How may it be possible to complete the deletion of the link to "Gandzak is other spelling of Gazaka. Best wishes, --Zara-arush (talk) 03:33, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Odzun Church

Dear Eupator, would you consider reversing your edit that reversed your earlier edit that removed the link to the Azeri-language wikipedia. In other words , would you remove the link. As you may know, the problem of Wikipedia linking to propaganda websites has come up before (for the khachkar entry). I'm interested in seeing what happens when it is removed again. These sort of links unambiguously illustrate how Wikipedia is a source of lies and is a propaganda tool. Meowy 22:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

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Armenian Genocide new paragraph: "Patriocide"

Greetings!

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The article Hayasa-Azzi has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Honestly, some references in this article is just made up, good example could be reference - AM 130-3. There is not even 1 relevant evidence about this article in internet, which makes whole concept of this article - doubtful.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. NovaSkola (talk) 01:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#Genocide_of_Ottoman_Turks_and_Muslims. Pcap ping 03:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

You're invited!

Hello, Eupator,

You are invited meet with your fellow Wikipedians by attending the Montréal meetup scheduled on Sunday, June 27, 2010; between 1500 - 1700 to be held at the Comité Social Centre Sud (CSCS), located at 1710 Beaudry, in Montréal. You can sign up at the meetup page.

The meetup is happening in concurrence with RoCoCo 2010, a free, bilingual, weekend unconference including many people involved with Wikis both within the Wikipedia/Wikimedia Community and abroad. You do not need to attend the conference to sign up for the Wikimeetup, but you are certainly welcome! Bastique ^{☎ call me!}

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Delivered by SoxBot (talk) 00:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Urartu

As you are aware, this article is subject to nationalistic edit warring. Please ensure that any content removals or potentially contentious edits that you make are discussed on the article talk page. Stifle (talk) 10:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)