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<s>"mentioning My Little Pony was sexual harassment". I never said that, at all. I never even said there was "sexual harassment" from MarkBernstein towards me. I said that there was a pattern of personal attacks from MarkBernstein towards me, with the seemingly randoming introduction of MLP (including at one point the issue of sexuality that has been mentioned by the MLP fandom) into the discussion yet another jab towards me. I would really appreciate you at least alter the reason to close because otherwise you are putting words in my mouth that I did not say of any sort toward MarkBernstein. --[[User:Masem|M<font size="-3">ASEM</font>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 03:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)</s>
<s>"mentioning My Little Pony was sexual harassment". I never said that, at all. I never even said there was "sexual harassment" from MarkBernstein towards me. I said that there was a pattern of personal attacks from MarkBernstein towards me, with the seemingly randoming introduction of MLP (including at one point the issue of sexuality that has been mentioned by the MLP fandom) into the discussion yet another jab towards me. I would really appreciate you at least alter the reason to close because otherwise you are putting words in my mouth that I did not say of any sort toward MarkBernstein. --[[User:Masem|M<font size="-3">ASEM</font>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 03:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)</s>
:Ack sorry. I did not see Seren Dept's comment before you hatted and now see you are talking at their comment. My bad and my apologies. --[[User:Masem|M<font size="-3">ASEM</font>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 03:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
:Ack sorry. I did not see Seren Dept's comment before you hatted and now see you are talking at their comment. My bad and my apologies. --[[User:Masem|M<font size="-3">ASEM</font>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 03:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

::No worries. I understand that this is a heated matter for all parties, so such mistakes come with the territory. I wish that we could find a way to settle the problems between both of you without what seems like the entire internet interfering. I admire you for stepping away for the article for a bit voluntarily. I think that is always healthy. As you know, people who are not Mark Bernstein have expressed concern about the ways in which you have been contributing to these articles. Sometimes we (and I put myself at the top of this list) act in ways that aren't helpful or in the best interests of the encyclopedia when in the midst of a heated conflict. It is difficult to realize or admit what you may have or have not done wrong when you feel you are being attacked, and sometimes you think cannot make any admission or concession because you think your opponent will take advantage of it or not do the same. That's when I know it's time for a Wikibreak. [[User:Gamaliel|<span style="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<span style="color:DarkGreen;">talk</span>]])</small> 03:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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I'm fairly new to Wikipedia - I'm set to become autoconfirmed today. This will be my 150th edit and I've been on the wiki for just under four days. I recently came across The Signpost and it's something I'd definitely be interested in contributing to. Could there be a spare place for me in the Featured content section? I understand that you may not feel I'm experienced enough yet - is there any particular requirements? I've read Volume 11, Issue 31 already though I plan to subscribe just in case I miss an issue. I also wouldn't mind to help out in the wikiproject report, however for now my preference would be to help the featured content section. Thanks, Leeds United FC fan (talk) 15:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Please go ahead- I can't devote much time to it this week, and there are lots of FAs etc. Even a rough draft is useful. Maybe start with the pictures and move upwards (or whatever you find congenial ). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:03, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Leeds United FC fan: Featured Content is a great place for a new editor, because you don't have to know anything in particular about Wikipedia, we just try to write interesting and funny things about the new articles and pictures that were promoted via FC. Unlike some of the other parts of the Signpost, FC is not closely coordinated or edited. The list of articles and pictures is automatically generated and whoever is available just goes in and adds descriptions and captions. You can reach the draft in progress through our Newsroom and here is a direct link to the current one. Let me know if you have any questions along the way. Thanks!
WikiProject Reports are a bit more organized, and they are coordinated here. I think Go Phightins! will know who the best person to put you in contact with if you want to contribute there. Gamaliel (talk) 16:05, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your quick reply. Is there any precautions I should take about copyright when adding descriptions? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 16:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just paraphrase rather than copy and paste. Sometimes it's difficult to find an alternative- I use a quotation "and put the quote in" a pair of those. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to wait until I'm a little more experienced with Wikipedia before starting. I'm also quite busy generally, but I'll be happy to become a contributor after a while. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 14:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, feel free to jump in at any time. You can always find the current FC draft in the Newsroom. Gamaliel (talk) 14:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'm going to make my userpage. Are all templates free to use? I'd like to use Template:Userboxtop for some userboxes. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 14:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, anything on Wikipedia is fair game. Gamaliel (talk) 14:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So I can use any template on Wikipedia on my user page, without having to credit anyone? In particular the template I mentioned. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 14:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. The credits are on each template page already, and that is considered sufficient. Gamaliel (talk) 16:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Civ 3

re: [1]—my edit removed video game trivia and completely unsourced material that has languished there for years. I actually read through the garbage and trimmed it to something reasonable. (The whole section is in need of a complete rewrite anyway.) Please revert your edit. – czar 04:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that a lot of it should be removed, but your edit removed too much. It's basically a long stub now. There's not even a list of Civilizations, which I think should be a key piece of information for a game called Civilization. Gamaliel (talk) 04:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So add a list of civilizations if you want, but the previous list had way too much trivial (gameguide) detail. Makes no sense to revert the whole cleanup. – czar 04:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm about to go offline, but tomorrow I will take a close look at the edit and re-remove the stuff the worst of it. Gamaliel (talk) 04:49, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here's your list of civs:

Playable civilizations include Aztec, Babylon, China, Ancient Egypt, England, France, Germany, Ancient Greece, India, Iroquois, Japan, Persian Empire, Ancient Rome, Russia, United States, and Zululand.

When one cleans up the cruft, yes, there's nothing left but a stub. Hopefully someone will feel welcome enough to add encyclopedic coverage now. – czar 04:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Timeline of the John F. Kennedy assassination

I've encounter a new editor/IP in Timeline of the John F. Kennedy assassination that keeps inserting uncited material in place of cited material and refuses to engage in dialogue on the talk page. Is this something that qualifies for page protection? Thanks! - Location (talk) 22:29, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It might, but since it appears to be a stable IP, they might refer you to WP:3RRN instead. Gamaliel (talk) 00:34, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm at a loss for what to do when someone doesn't follow the rules (i.e. cite the material they added), so I put up a request for a third opinion. - Location (talk) 03:12, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It can be frustrating. I'll keep my eye on the situation and help if I can. Gamaliel (talk) 03:14, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks on both accounts! - Location (talk) 03:20, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the page was protected (Thanks, CambridgeBayWeather!) which prevented the IP from editing, but the version with the registered name skirted that and reverted anyway. I've gone through the formality of tagging both with {{uw-3rr}}. Unfortunately, I cannot do anything since I abide by the rules and I'm pushing the 3RR, too. Ironically, my third opinion request was denied because he refuses to engage in discussion (diff). - Location (talk) 15:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Location:. Based on the edits being the same I assumed the IP and the logged in editor were the same. So I've blocked them for 48 hours. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@CambridgeBayWeather: Thank you! That saves me time in drawing up a 3RR complaint. Would you be able to revert his last edit to your last version (diff) or Gamaliel's (diff)? - Location (talk) 16:32, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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re "Bogus Wikipedia page"

Your article ends with citing Murphy: "If there’s an innocent explanation for that, I’d love to hear it". I provided one in the Signpost talk page. Care to expand your article? Staszek Lem (talk) 18:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that you raise an extremely likely possibility. I will try to track down some of those sources and see what I can find. Gamaliel (talk) 19:23, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great Signpost this week

I gave some personal thanks to Bryce, but I wanted each of you Signpost board folks how much I appreciated this issue. Not only was the op-ed outstanding and thought provoking, the news section was well above average and Tony's travelogue was distinctive and fun to read. For my part, I'd like to see more profiles like that which appeared in the blog. It's impossible to cover every noteworthy event, but the statistical analysis seemed to line up with my anecdotal recollection of the event as it unfolded. Having the opportunity to see such an event analysis on an occasional basis may prove to be a different cross section of exactly how we function in real time. I'm taking the liberty to copy this to each of your board members; please pass my good wishes among your entire team. Outstanding reading. BusterD (talk) 04:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments! It's always great to hear when people enjoy the Signpost. Gamaliel (talk) 01:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice to meet you, I appreciate you taking the time to notify me of the issue with editing the Gamergate page. Are you aware of how to tell when these requirements for posting have been reached? I understand that the 500 edits and 1 month created times are only intended as a programmatic recognition of new accounts, and this restriction's true intention is the prevention of new inexperienced accounts causing issues. However, I wouldn't want to accidentally breech the requirement again without checking first that my account is eligible. Misterpaul1 (talk) 04:54, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you go to your preferences page, which you can reach by clicking on "preferences" at the top of the screen on most pages, it will show you the age of your account and the number of edits you have made. Gamaliel (talk) 12:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Animated gif

I fear you may get complaints that the present one might adversely affect epilepsy sufferers. Would it be possible to get one that is less flickery? Andreas JN466 17:53, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm rather fond of the thaumatrope, being an early film buff and interested in Persistence of vision toys that were precursors to film. But you're right, I'll see if I can find something else usable in the twitter stream. Gamaliel (talk) 18:00, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Interested in your thoughts?

@Gamaliel: further to the debate at Talk:Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine, do you think it would be a good idea to investigate creating or amending Wikipedia policy so editors are prevented from giving a religion to young children, especially if the children are or were forced to perform religious beliefs and actions out of fear or terror of consequences or punishment (such as in Princess Marie's era)? Paul Austin (talk) 15:00, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I don't think I know enough about this issue to have an opinion. Gamaliel (talk) 15:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your suggestion for limiting discussion at AE

I think it's a very good one, and I wanted to mention it here to hopefully reduce clutter -- an to apologize for being part of the problem in the first place. Dumuzid (talk) 23:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You have no need to apologize, yours was one of the shorter and more sensible statements there. I was tempted to close the request by quoting you: "(1) Masem: Grow up. (2) Dr. Bernstein: Don't be a jerk." Gamaliel (talk) 01:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A comment

"mentioning My Little Pony was sexual harassment". I never said that, at all. I never even said there was "sexual harassment" from MarkBernstein towards me. I said that there was a pattern of personal attacks from MarkBernstein towards me, with the seemingly randoming introduction of MLP (including at one point the issue of sexuality that has been mentioned by the MLP fandom) into the discussion yet another jab towards me. I would really appreciate you at least alter the reason to close because otherwise you are putting words in my mouth that I did not say of any sort toward MarkBernstein. --MASEM (t) 03:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ack sorry. I did not see Seren Dept's comment before you hatted and now see you are talking at their comment. My bad and my apologies. --MASEM (t) 03:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I understand that this is a heated matter for all parties, so such mistakes come with the territory. I wish that we could find a way to settle the problems between both of you without what seems like the entire internet interfering. I admire you for stepping away for the article for a bit voluntarily. I think that is always healthy. As you know, people who are not Mark Bernstein have expressed concern about the ways in which you have been contributing to these articles. Sometimes we (and I put myself at the top of this list) act in ways that aren't helpful or in the best interests of the encyclopedia when in the midst of a heated conflict. It is difficult to realize or admit what you may have or have not done wrong when you feel you are being attacked, and sometimes you think cannot make any admission or concession because you think your opponent will take advantage of it or not do the same. That's when I know it's time for a Wikibreak. Gamaliel (talk) 03:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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