User talk:Ruhrfisch/Archive24

Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a message below and I will reply on your talk page. Although my email address is enabled, it is not an address I check often (so I may be slow in replying to email). Please also note that while I am glad to do a peer review on just about any article, I do not have the time to do copyedits (sorry). Thanks for stopping by and happy editing! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Fort Antes

I found the cemetary and I can only assume that the fort was near the cemetary. I have pics of the cemetary, marker and Colonel Antes' grave marker. I think I am going to write an article on the colonel himself, soon. I can email you how to get to the cemetary if you wish. I didn't have time to nose around much. My wife was wondering where I had gotten off too. =) Dincher (talk) 00:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

PR

I think I added a fifth PR. It has been nearly two weeks since PokerTracker has had substantive commentary. You can close that.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Will a bot update the Article history and/or the template?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the article history.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi again

Hi ruhrfisch.

Some replies to your suggestions;-

• I do know that the article contains several short paragraphs. But I am helpless. I do not have sufficient info to expand them, neither can I merge it with any other paragraph.

• If you see the stadiums section, there is a reference for the stadia. How many more refs do you need?

• In the refs, I always provide the URL, title and accessdate. If I can, I will add other info as well.

• I don't understand what you mean by linking rupee to crore. Your statement was :

Or link Rupee and crore in " Rs.103 crores See WP:PCR (Note that now the link to INR is a dab and crore is till unlinked)

Please explain and elaborate this statement.

I appreciate your help in improving this article. Any other suggestions are most welcome.

Ankitbhatt (talk) 12:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I have made a new infobox in the article 2003 Afro-Asian Games. If you can, plz tell me what u think about it.

Ankitbhatt (talk) 16:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Appleseed

Right. Well, I did some searching of my own, and you're right that there's very little written that is not for children. Generally I think the important thing is to use the best sources available, and the two sources you mention - while not ideal, perhaps - seem reliable enough. If you could incorporate those and also implement the other changes I've mentioned, I'd keep the article as a GA. Lampman (talk) 19:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Holy Bible

I've noticed your comment that Wikipedia is not a center for Bible study.
Wikipedia is undeniably a center for the study of a huge, impressive, and staggering number of subjects.
That is, Wikipedia is a source of instructive reference material about those topics.
By what logic do you suggest (apparently) that the Bible or Biblical matters should be excluded from Wikipedia?
Or have I misunderstood your intent or meaning?
Thanks.
Doc. DocRushing (talk) 14:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your review

		Military history reviewers' award
		By order of the coordinators, for your help with the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews April to June 2009, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award.  Roger Davies talk 12:26, 5 July 2009 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space

German expertise required

Can you help me with the plural form of "Leitmotiv"? Is it just adding an s, or is it more complicated? Thanks Brianboulton (talk) 15:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

New source

I have added some content to both BP Pedestrian Bridge and Cloud Gate from a new source. You may want to proofread my additions.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I have added two sources and believe I am now done.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I should have been clear. I am done with Cloud Gate. I have one more book to go through for BP Pedestrian Bridge.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The photographer has given consent, but we do not have consent of the artist or the city.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I have gone through Conversations With Frank Gehry and it does not mention the Bridge. So I am done with both articles for now although, I have some things for the Pavilion in this book.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

A(nother) request

Hey, Ruhrfisch. Long time no see. :]

If you are up to it, could you review Whitney High School at WP:GAN? I'd really appreciate it if you could. It looks like school articles are not getting reviewed that often. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

If you don't mind me asking, how did you find the lasting motivation to formulate so much featured content?

So, it just sorta happens with articles that you and others you know are truly interested in? That's actually pretty awesome. One really needs to have a passion for the stuff, huh? I hope I also will find that switch inside of me that'll encourage me to take articles onwards to FA.

Also, you won't need to do the review—the high school seemed to have decided to renovate their website yesterday and now the sourcing for several of the sections are dead—I'll remove it from GAN for now until they finish up. But thanks for agreeing to help me out. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 18:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Haha, wow...I wouldn't've guessed such an archive existed, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Thank you so much, you've just saved my patience account a good two months of continual withdrawal. :D

--Starstriker7^(Talk) 19:08, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to resubmit this at WP:GAN. If you are still willing to take a look at it, it'll be there. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 19:14, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Gold PR

Thank you again for the peer review. I will start working on the recommended changes shortly. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:14, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Please contribute to Murder of Huang Na's peer review

Greetings, Ruhrfisch! Six years ago, an eight-year-old Mainland Chinese girl, named Huang Na, came to Singapore with her mother, a peidu mama. She had a bright future ahead of her, until she disappeared one day, sparking a nationwide search that lasted three weeks. Turns out that she was brutally murdered by a family friend.

Now I humbly present an article about the murder case: Murder of Huang Na! The story is tragic yet fascinating - I believe you will enjoy reading it and learn more about Singaporean culture too. But besides reading it, could you please contribute to its ongoing peer review? Doing so would help clear the backlog at PR and help me write another GA for the sake of Wikipedia and fighting systemic bias. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 12:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

PR backlog (tell me the old old story)

Hi. I thought I might post the following message on each incoming peer review, at least until the backlog descends from its present lofty levels. Judging by the numbers of recently nominated articles, this could be quite a while. I am trying to do at least one PR a day, but other commitments keep intervening. Smetana made it to FA, but I have The Bartered Bride coming up. I will delay sending that to FAC for a week, to give me a bit more space for dealing with the benighted backlog. My proposed message:-

Note to PR nominators: Due to a chronic shortage of available reviewers, the current long PR backlog means that there could well be considerable delays before your article is reviewed. You can help to reduce the backlog by reviewing one of the articles awaiting review there - see the WP:Peer review page. This might bring forward the date of your article's review.

Brianboulton (talk) 22:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Nature

Heya. I'm trying to arrange a ranger-led slog through Everglades National Park. I've asked for it to be off-season in November and somewhat specialized since I assume I may be a bit more informed than most who go on tours in the park. The idea led me to think of the Wikipedia Loves Art project, where Wikipedians go to museums to help their abilities to expand and create art-related articles.

What if there was a Wikipedia Loves Nature group to go to protected areas and do something similar? I don't know how to create such a thing or if it would be a good idea or what, but if a few Wikipedians who are interested in nature also join me in my slog, there are quite a few articles related to such a trek that might be expanded. I'm asking your Important Bird Area opinion. Ive also asked Guettarda and Casliber for their opinions. Let me know if you're interested or have ideas. Thanks. --Moni3 (talk) 18:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Habay and the rest of them

Thank you for your very thorough review of the Jeff Habay article. I will incorporate the suggestions over the next few weeks, hopefully culminating in a GA.

I do have a question on another matter. I collected links for some Pennsylvania General Assembly-specific resources on one page, with instructions on how to use them: User:Blargh29/Resources. I guess I did it to organize the random links I had strewn about my userpage. I am thinking that other people researching the PA General Assembly might find it useful, but I'm not sure what to do with it. Should I put it under the projectspace of the Pennsylvania Wikiproject? Should I leave it in my userspace and just link to it from various locations? Should I push its development into a taskforce or other organized effort? I would appreciate your thoughts.--Blargh29 (talk) 05:42, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Iravan/archive1

Please review Iravan for FA concerns, as you did Vithoba a long time ago. The article is a regional Hindu god and epic character, and may have issues similar to Vithoba in terms of jargon. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Adams Lake State Park

I created Adams Lake State Park today. I don't know if there's a DYK in it or not. Could you take a look and let me know what you think? Dincher (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Works for me. Thanks! I might get another Ohio state park done today, too. Hope all is well. Dincher (talk) 20:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed it. Thanks, the nomination is in. Dincher (talk) 20:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Could be. ;) Dincher (talk) 20:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Good. I'll look at the links tomorrow. Dincher (talk) 05:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I just read the Hyner articles. Very nice, especially the second one that tells of soaring with eagles. Dincher (talk)

PR talk page

Oops! I just noticed that I did not have a watch on the PR talk page, and I've missed all the conversations going on there for several months. That's why I didn't comment on your suggestion for making the backlog workable. I don't have any new ideas, but I posted an old one just now to the PR talk page. It's really just a variation on your idea of making perhaps five suggestions per review, then moving on. Finetooth (talk) 23:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'd be glad to help with the article and boilerplate. I've often thought if I were better organized, I'd keep a list of comments and links to clone and paste rather than re-writing the same thing over and over and having to look up the pertinent links to the MOS or other guidelines. I've half-memorized some of these comments and links. For example, lately I've taken to directing editors who've submitted articles with weak leads to a subsection, MOS:INTRO, of WP:LEAD and citing one sentence from it that says, "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." This single sentence covers the essence of what I usually have to say about a weak lead. I use other quotes or boilerplate language and/or favorite links for other kinds of problems. Finetooth (talk) 03:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, your PR boilerplate page is the kind of thing I've been thinking I ought to do. Finetooth (talk) 04:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Missing talk page template

In reviewing Canadian rock today, I noticed that the article's talk page did not have a PR template. I have at least once in the past attempted a fix by inserting the template myself, but today I hesitated because it occurred to me that this might create a duplicate record and gum up the works. What's the best way to handle this? Finetooth (talk) 18:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Cloud Gate

Thank you. Of course, now we move on to the next ones, Crown Fountain is at WP:PR and McDonald's Cycle Center will soon be added.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Closing TRAJQ Peer Review

Believe it or not, to FIX the things suggested there (copyediting), I would need to have the article in peer review (for copyeditors). Congratulations on further stalling this article's improvement and being a model of WP:CIVIL with your incorrect cry of "read the fucking manual." ZeaLitY [ DREAM - REFLECT ] 03:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

• I did not make the comment attributed to me in quotation marks above, see diff. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 15:34, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Vincent van Gogh PR

Do you consider this having received commentary? This should be listed with articles still having no commentary, IMO. Please don't close this any time soon, it needs feedback.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:00, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please either review the article or mention to BrianBoulton to add it to the list of articles needing reviews.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Common problems at Peer Review

Sorry for the delay in getting back – a certain lady has been claiming my full attention lately. I agree with the idea of a Signpost article to highlight the sort of things we frequently encounter at PR. I would add to the list various MOS issues such as the correct use of hyphens and dashes, no-break spaces, etc. One problem that I often find stems from lack of rigour in earlier GA reviews. Some articles pass GA without in my view being properly vetted against the GA criteria, or indeed any meaningful criteria, and thus arrive at PR in an all-round undeveloped state. It is hard to convince editors that such articles, having passed GA, require top-to-bottom revision. It might be a bit tactless to express the problem thus, but some careful wording might be used. Anyway, count me in, and I'll help in any way I can. Brianboulton (talk) 12:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC) .

Crown Fountain

I will talk to Torsodog and see if he can get a video for us.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:34, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The article seems extensive and thorough with respect to general history. It is not clear to me what proportions of flights were private aviation and commercial aviation. You may want to add WP:ALT text. Is there anything special about the two aircraft housed at the airport? In general it is a fine article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Admin

Thanks for being a willing con-nom. Like I told Julian C, I am flattered but not interested. Right now IRL I am pondering getting my master's degree, finally. It's kind of scary since I am not the best student. Dincher (talk) 23:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

If I could get a master's in Pennsylvania state parks, that would be pretty cool. Dincher (talk) 23:04, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/2008–09 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team/archive1

If you are satisfied with Wikipedia:Peer review/2008–09 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team/archive1, you can close it so I can move on to the next one.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Peer review on NLOTH

Many thanks to you for responding on the No Line on the Horizon peer review. I've done some work as per your recommendations on the page and it is looking much better. However, I do have some questions which I have left in response to your comments. If you could take a look and respond to them, I'd really appreciate it. MelicansMatkin (talk) 03:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to my questions on the page. I've tried to address the weight issue of the Linear section; could I ask you to take a quick look and see if I've managed to work it better? Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for reviewing and answering my questions. I think I've now addressed all of your points, and I've requested a couple of editors to copyedit. Once that's done, I think it'll be ready for FAC. Thanks again so much! MelicansMatkin (talk) 04:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Stow-Munroe Falls High School

If you could have a look at the recent edits made to Stow-Munroe Falls High School I would appreciate any assistance there. The article is in horrible shape, but an anonymous editor has been adding tons of unreferenced peacock and POV info (mainly the Junior Classical League section) and removing reference tags and I would rather not risk getting a 3RR block for reverting it over and over. Thanks for any help --JonRidinger (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

A team of editors has been working on upgrading the Sustainability article over the past several months. We have had one peer review and the reviewer (Finetooth) recommended we get a second review prior to submitting the article as a Featured Article Candidate. I've looked through the PRV list for someone who has a science background and an interest in the natural environment. You fit that bill. Would you be willing to consider doing a peer review of the article? Sunray (talk) 07:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Cowan Lake State Park

I am working on expanding Cowan Lake State Park and have come across some interesting information about a William Smalley. I want to make sure that the Smalley in the first link I have included is the same Smalley in this link provided by the Buckeye State. Since I am at "work" and can't look at maps and some other links to make sure I am barking up the right tree, could you check for me? The history of Smalley is somewhat sensational, but it was published in 1882 back in the days when describing Indians as murderous savages was acceptable and down right expected. If you can't get to it, no problem, I will check from home, later. Hope all is well. Dincher (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I probably won't get to work it this much until Friday, but I agree, it is going to be interesting. Dincher (talk) 00:48, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Cowan Lake State Park is expanded and ready for DYK. Any hook suggestions. Perhaps ...DYK that William Smalley, the first settler in the area of Cowan Lake State Park was help captive by the Lenape for a total of 6 years and 7 months. Or something to do with him. Dincher (talk) 00:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, the hook is in with a pic. Dincher (talk) 17:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ruhrfisch. You have new messages at Sunray's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Sunray (talk) 02:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

County Fair

I saw the upload at Hughesville. It made me wonder if the fair is actually in Hughesville itself or in Wolf Twp. And it reminded me of going to the Cumberland County fair and barfing after I got off the Round-Up

, which was pretty embarassing. I do like pano pic, maybe it could be added at the bottom of the Lycoming County page. Hopefully I'll get to work on Cowan Lake tonight. Kind of busy at work. I actually have more real work to do. Dincher (talk) 22:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, same pic twice isn't the best. That's what's going on at South Williamsport. Have you thought of writing an article about the fair. Dincher (talk) 00:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

South Williamsport doesn't have a "downtown", so I am not sure what you could get. There aren't even many old, old buildings like what I took for Jersey Shore. I guess maybe the borough hall or maybe from the high school looking down into town. Do you have any hook ideas for Cowan Lake State PArk? Dincher (talk) 15:15, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I looked that the Wolf Twp. official map and notice that Plunketts Creek Twp. is marked as "Picture Rocks Twp.! Dincher (talk) 15:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

The Humdinger would be great! Been there tons of times. Dincher (talk) 16:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Advice wanted

As a famous dispenser of oil on troubled waters, can you advise me? A member of the Wikipedia Opera Project has changed the section order of my current FAC nominee The Bartered Bride. This is a unilateral action by him, without talkpage or peer review discussion. When I reverted to the original order, he reimposed his edit with a highly intemperate edit summary - see for yourself. He then opened a discussion on the article's talkpage, again in an aggressive style. I have responded relatively calmly to him, as you can see, and made a suggestion as to how the difference might be resolved. If he accepts my offer, well and good; otherwise, what would you advise me to do? It looks like deliberate disruptive editing to me, but I have little experience of this (apart from CalamityJane), and don't want to put myself in the wrong. A reply here would be appreciated. Brianboulton (talk) 00:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

@ Brian: Do you think that the other editors preference will keep the article in question from reaching FA? If not, it may be best to go with how he or she wants it. But if you believe that it needs to be formatted as you think, then by all means try to reach an agreement for your preference. Dincher (talk) 01:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Sandy has promoted the Bride, so that's not an issue, now. My main concern is that an editor, who has lurked on the sidelines throughout the article's development, tried to enforce a non-consensual change at a very late stage in the FAC review. At any stage in the last few weeks he could, if he had chosen, have raised his concern for open discussion (he made minor edits during the PR process, so clearly has been watching the article). The change he wanted was relatively small, but significant enough, in my view, to have weakened the article – it probably wouldn't have affected the FAC outcome, though. Anyway, the article is promoted; comments added to its talkpage, and Ruhrfisch's reply on my talkpage (which if necessary I will paste in to any further discussion on this matter) have reinforced the consensus against the change that Viva-Verdi tried to force through. Thanks for the advice and support, and let us hope the matter goes away now. Brianboulton (talk) 08:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

PR script bot

Just letting you know of the BOTREQ. Feel free to contact anyone else who should know about this.Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 05:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Dispenser had a different idea: let people run their own semi-auto reviews whenever they want, using this tool he developed: [1]. If that works, we could avoid saving them to the wiki entirely, which would save both your edits and peerreviewbot's edits. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:54, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi again!!

Hi ruhrfisch.

Some things I have to tell:

• I am confused - what do you mean by a "lead image"? Can you please elaborate?

• You have to understand my plight - I am not writing an article about the Olympics or Comonwealth Games. It is really difficult to find references, or to expand very short paragraphs. What I have been able to do with such a limited number of websites is commendable. If you find any info, please tell me or put it up directle on the artcle.

Thanx

Ankitbhatt (talk) 08:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK question

I am wondering if you could offer some advice. I have suggested a DYK incorporating three new pages I wrote, Albert J. Neri, John Verbanac, and The Insider (newspaper). The nomination is here Template talk:Did you know#The Insider .28newspaper.29. Can you suggest some improvements to these articles to get them through DYK? --Blargh29 (talk) 23:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Fresh opinion

Hate to bother you again, but if you could take a look at a conversation I have been having with another editor regarding sources. He definitely means well, but I think believes that if one knows something, they can change an article even without any type of published source. I would appreciate any advice you can give either of us and at least offer some fresh air to the discussion. What the other editor has said can be found here and what I have said can be found here. Thanks for any help you can offer. --JonRidinger (talk) 02:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your insights! --JonRidinger (talk) 04:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

New map assistance

Hi there, its been a while since we last spoke, but I was wondering if you would be able to assit me with another map. I don't know how difficult this is, it might be a simple job or a very complex one, but what I'm looking for is a version of File:Bay of Bengal map.png that conforms to national boundaries as they were in the early nineteenth century. After thinking about the requirements, I believe that it is too complex to redraw the national boundaries, so would it be possible to a) eliminate all modern political boundaries b) Rename Sri Lanka to Ceylon, Myanmar to Burma and Indonesia to the "Dutch East Indies" c) remove the labels for Bangladesh and Malaysia d) Remove the labels and dots from Singapore and Kuala Lumpur. Otherwise the map can remain as it is. If this is too complex or you don't have time then don't worry, its just that it appears anachronistic when I use it on articles about events in the early nineteenth century. As always, any articles you want reviewing or copyediting please send them my way whenever you want. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 12:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou very much! Very quick response! That map is certainly less anachronistic and does the job very well, thanks, --Jackyd101 (talk) 20:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Help!

Hello,

 I don't know exactly what to do about the following related pages, Logan the Mingo, Daniel Greathouse, John Gibson, and possibly others.  Am I able to flag pages that are loaded with fictional sources somehow to warn users that information is bogus?  I have not had time to make changes or delete most of the problems.  Most of the errors are coming in from Eckert books being taken as historical non fiction rather than history novels.  His works are so popular, his made up version of events appears on nearly every page that has to do with Logan or the Yellow Creek massacre.  I hate just blanket deleting entries without having the time to make accurate substitutions, but I also hate the misinformation being passed on.  Do I just tattle to you, or do I just delete and hope real information will eventually be posted?

TruthBastion (talk) 00:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)