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Please contact me concerning anything to do with outlines or the Outlines WikiProject. Questions, problems, conflicts, AfD's, etc. etc. Thank you.


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To create a redirect for the term "Oof":

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  3. In the edit window that appears, type #REDIRECT [[Foo]] on the first line to make it lead to the article Foo
  4. Redirects should be organized in to categories too. Each redirect can have up to seven redirect categories. Categories go on the third line of the redirect. (Note: Plant has a subcategory within the category of scientific name; enter plant after a pipe).

Here are two examples of a redirect category using a category template:

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  • {{R from scientific name|plant}}

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When redirecting talk

Please copy the contents of older talkpages when centralizing discussion. If this is not done the concerns risk being lost. Best wishes and happy holidays, Carl Fredrik 💌 📧 22:26, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I'm in the middle of it. Handling multiple things. Thanks. The Transhumanist 22:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick and small point

If you edit someone's talk page repeatedly in quick succession, they get inundated with pings and, if email is enabled, emails. Each time you leave me a message, I tend to get lots of such interactions. The emails in particular are a nuisance, as my phone buzzes every time, which is very distracting.

I know I'm probably being hypocritical here, but please could you try to make more use of the preview button and/or leave windows open with messages half written before clicking save, so you can think of everything in one go?

Apologies for sounding petty. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dweller: I tend to reread my messages after I post them, and almost always find little corrections to make. I guess I'm a perfectionist. I'll try not to look at the messages again after I post them the first time. You'll be getting the communications raw! No worries. It's not petty if your phone is driving you mad. :) BTW, I hope the reasons I posted in that message made sense. Cheers. The Transhumanist 12:00, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All makes sense. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:46, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Capital of Washington listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Capital of Washington. Since you had some involvement with the Capital of Washington redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:08, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 5 February

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 Done Undefined ref tag removed. The Transhumanist 07:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The Transhumanist 07:26, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Love the outlines

Hi there! I just wanted to let you know that I think your planet outlines are really cool. I have long thought it was a shame that only Wikipedians seem to know about Books or Portals, because they are really great tools for structuring knowledge (while everyone loves diving down the Wikipedia rabbit hole, we could really do with some better content organization). The outlines strike me as a great way to bring that sort content organization to mainspace, where it will actually reach a large number of readers. I notice that I am the first one to edit them besides yourself, and I hope you know that I do so with love.

What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Great idea with the outline articles - a great solution to a need for better mainspace-based content structuring! I see from WP:Outlines that you actually came up with this concept some years ago, but this is the first I've noticed it. A2soup (talk) 02:46, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some geography articles needing attention

Since on your user page or somewhere, you call yourself an expert in geography, you would perhaps want to look at these articles, which are in desperately in need of some attention. 103.6.159.65 (talk) 18:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Opera basic topics listed at Redirects for discussion

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Hi, you've probably seen already but just wanted to give you a heads up that I did some work on the article. I know it still needs a lot more work but I think its an improvement and at least it has inline references and (I hope) makes some sense. I wasn't familiar with the terminology of hyponyms and hypernyms (its amazing how different groups find ways to give different names to concepts that are essentially the same). I thought that the idea of is-a hierarchies was more familiar so at first I went with that but the more I looked at all the papers the more I realized they all use (which I should have realized) the linguistics terms of hypernyms and hyponyms so I felt it was important to describe those terms. For people who start digging into the actual papers I hope at least they will start with a basic understanding of the terminology. I almost then deleted what I wrote about is-a but as I said I think that concept is more widely understood, especially these days with object-oriented programming so popular so I felt it was worth leaving both terms. I think the original article used both concepts as well although it wasn't clear to me what hypernyms were from what was in the original article. Let me know if you have feedback or of course feel free to just edit. I've asked some colleagues for more references on the topic but so far no one has come through. If they do I may update some more, or if you have some feedback and want me to address it I'll give it a shot but otherwise moving on. Thanks for asking though it was actually fun to do some non-trivial editing, haven't done it in a while. It helped that I had some actual work that I didn't want to do so this was a nice distraction ;-) --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:49, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

replied on user's talk page. The Transhumanist 04:00, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Outlines

Why are you moving outline pages from "Outline of..." to "Outline about..."? The former is more natural and, perhaps more important, is the long standing naming convention as described at Wikipedia:Outlines. "Outline about xxx" is not even normal English usage - I would always use "outline of" something and expect to see it, and an Ngram confirms it is about 1000 times more common.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 12:22, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not. They got reverted, and it is currently in discussion here (I've posted a question for you there). Based on reactions so far, I don't think consensus will be on my side on this one. And so, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. You're right: grammatical correctness trumps semantic accuracy. And so, "Outline of" is fine by me. The Transhumanist 01:09, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Tip of the day monitoring

Thanks for your message about proofing Tip of the Day posts in advance. I'll be glad to try to do that, although I may forget sometimes.

If I spot an error or something that raises a question, should I notify you directly or post my concerns on the Tip of the Day talk page? Eddie Blick (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Teblick: I forget too. So, the more pairs of eyes on these, the better. Posting alerts and comments on the TOTD talk page is fine; simply {{ping}} me (and JoeHebda) so we receive an alert. Also, feel free to edit the tips directly. JoeHebda and myself have all the tips watchlisted, so we'll be able to review the changes made. Thank you for your help to keep the tip of the day relevant and useful! If you have any questions pertaining to anything to do with Wikipedia, don't hesitate to ask. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 02:31, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Before I read your reply, I found three problems in the tip for tomorrow and posted them at Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day#Problems with "Wikipedia's top ten power tips" list. I will try to remember to ping you and Joe Hebda the next time I spot something. Thanks for the okay on direct editing. I'll do that if I spot something that isn't too involved. I appreciate your offer of help regarding Wikipedia. I still have a lot to learn about it. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:39, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Teblick: You picked the right department: it will teach you all the best tricks! The Transhumanist 05:19, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are right about that! I have found many useful tips since I began reading the Tip of the Day posts regularly. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:01, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:SuggestBot pointed me towards Human communication as a page I might want to edit, which is tagged for cleanup. While a full article might be worth writing, it occurred to me that it might be a good case for an outline. It already gives a list of blue-linked topics to read for communication broken up by group type (with oneself, with multiple people, within a group, within an organization, etc), and it could be broken up in other ways similarly (mode: written, verbal, gestural, ...; intent: informative, expressive, persuasive, ...; register: formal, informal, slang, vulgarity, ...; relationship to truth: nonsense, lies, evasiveness, honesty, ...; transmission: physical writing, live speech, recorded speech, video, digital equivalents, ...; target-type: human-human, human-machine, human-animal, ...; ...) plus related topics such as translation, linguistics, the history of these various things, ... . Even in outline this might be too broad to be manageable, but perhaps with judicious links to sub-outlines it could work. Since it's such a large topic, I don't know that a prose article can reasonably work. Of course, having said that, even more expansive topics such as philosophy, art and science do have solid prose articles, so perhaps I'm just being timid. What do you think? Would your normal prescription be to aim to have both, one for encyclopedic description and the other for navigability? I don't really believe I'm qualified to do justice to either but I'm interested in learning more about the outline approach and how it slots in to other types of article writing, and this seemed like an interesting example. Mortee (talk) 00:23, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this triggered another thought: since outlines are in a way analagous to categories (hierarchical categorisations of information intended to aid exploration) but are clearly different in form, has there been discussion before about the idea of having a separate page-space for outlines? For a lot of abstract pages X, having a category X and an outline X both make sense. Perhaps outlines should live at Outline:x rather than trying to co-exist in the main article space with other pages that have a very different intent, style, set of policies etc. It might make sense for outlines to live in a parallel space in that way, but presumably that would require some serious buy-in from Wikimedia and their devs, which in turn would need them (outlines) to prove their worth in a substantial way as compared to other means of navigating between articles... Hmm. I'll ponder this some more. Mortee (talk) 00:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Mortee: Thank you for your interest in my favorite topic: outlines! I copied and answered this thread over at Talk:Outline of communication#Outline of human communication. I'll see you there. The Transhumanist 05:59, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to computer programming questions

Hi, I've now taken time to read your questions about computer programming. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to help you with your scripting, at least not the ones you are developing, as I'm really not up to scratch with Wikipedia's more complicated script syntax. I would, however, be interested in starting a WikiProject with you. Wikipedia:WikiProject JavaScript, perhaps? Linguisttalk|contribs 16:10, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on your talk page. The Transhumanist 16:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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    To create a redirect for the term "Oof":

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    2. Click on the redlink for Oof that it presents
    3. In the edit window that appears, type #REDIRECT [[Foo]] on the first line to make it lead to the article Foo
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