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Category:Monks of medieval Rus'[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Monks from Kievan Rus'. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2B WP:C2C parent Category:Kievan Rus' people. Precedents People from Fooland. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:45, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Linguists of Kven[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. All these categories contain only 1 guy: Jens Andreas Friis. Upmerging to Category:Finno-Ugrists is relevant, all the other ones seem to have little added value. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: There are a lot more SMALLCATs in the Category:People by language and occupation tree. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:28, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Slovene-speaking people by occupation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: 1 C, which has 1 P. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Liechtenstein emigrants[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Emigrants from Liechtenstein to Category:Liechtenstein emigrants, and then keep that title. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:56, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Adjectival form is needed. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: With the creation of a duplicate category, we now need to decide if the nominated category should be merged to Category:Emigrants from Liechtenstein.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:01, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Combat veteran Wikipedians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Military veteran Wikipedians. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:45, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Yet another set of practically duplicate categories, both created by the same person (!). * Pppery * it has begun... 17:56, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, but that is not an argument against the alternative proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:48, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's not, since I didn't object to the alternative proposal -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 06:12, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge per nom for now, with a suggestion we look at the target category for deletion in the future. I am not sure that grouping people whose only common denominator is that they are a veteran suggests any sort of increased willingness or ability (at least that isn't WP:OR) to collaborate on a specific group of articles by those individuals, meaning there is a strong argument such a category violates WP:USERCAT. If the goal is to group individuals interested in improving military related content, a more inclusive category that would also include non-veterans seems like a better approach. VegaDark (talk) 04:07, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Medieval Kingdom of Croatia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Kingdom of Croatia (925–1102). bibliomaniac15 06:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. For precision. To distinguish from other Kingdoms of Croatia. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:12, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • No objection, but this implies that everything related to the 12th to 15th century (when Croatia was in personal union with Hungary) should be moved to Category:Medieval Croatia. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom It makes the chronology clearer. No objection to create another category for the subsequent Kingdom of Croatia. Dimadick (talk) 17:01, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    But there was no "subsequent Kingdom of Croatia", it was still the same kingdom Marcelus (talk) 17:08, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the category covers history of Croatian monarchy until 1526, there is no need to to change its name to something with clearly narrower scope Marcelus (talk) 17:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support WP:C2D — technically, 1526 isn't medieval.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:43, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Princes in Rus'[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 14#Category:Princes in Rus'

Category:Chhattisgarh Wikipedians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Chhattisgarh Wikipedians. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:57, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Obvious duplicate. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: @Pppery: Are you proposing Category:Chhattisgarh Wikipedians or Category:Chhattisgarhi Wikipedians as the merge target?
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Rus' people by century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to People/Women from Kievan Rus' by agreement of nominator. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:53, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent to Category:Kievan Rus' people, these are all people from Kievan Rus'. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Adding one to the nomination for the same reason: - Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Laurel, have updated my stance. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mastodons[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: split to Category:Mastodons and Category:Mammutidae. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:36, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm aware that in North America, the Mammut genus is commonly referred to as the common name "mastodon" (or "American mastodon" or "Pacific mastodon" for the two late Pleistocene species). However, "mastodon" is really almost only referred to the one Plio-Pleistocene genus of North America, not the entire mammutid family in paleontological research whose history spans as far back as the early Miocene in Africa to dispersals in Eurasia via a Gomphotherium land bridge. For instance, rarely would you see academic researchers refer to Zygolophodon as a "mastodon" if at all rather than "mammutid." Mammutidae fits better as a category name not only because of this but also because for fossil taxon categories, it's almost always standard to refer to them by taxonomic names like family names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrimalMustelid (talk • contribs) 18:00, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK with a split to meet in the middle. Just saw we have Mammutidae as a main article to ground the second grouping. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Change my !vote to split. Plantdrew (talk) 02:49, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Children's action films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete. Category deleted by Bbb23 as WP:CSD#G5 (non-admin closure) (non-admin closure) Joseph2302 (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT, superseded by other more specific categories (apologies if this isn't a correct deletion rationale, categories are confusing) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Youtuber[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:05, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Recently created empty category that duplicates Category:YouTubers, title has incorrect pluralization. — SamX [talk · contribs · he/him] 15:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Clearly created by mistake, this edit within one minute of creation would make it an easy WP:CSD#G7 except that there is an explicit exemption for category pages. Could WP:CSD#G2 apply here? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. ItsMario97 (talk) 00:22, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Next time, you can tag it for speedy deletion CSD C1. It will get deleted in a week but not require discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I'd thought that it needed to be tagged after it had been empty for a week. I guess that wouldn't make much sense. — SamX [talk · contribs · he/him] 02:24, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That seems to be a common misunderstanding. It's the tagging that STARTS the 7 day waiting period. That's how we keep track of how many days it's been empty. Liz Read! Talk! 03:52, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Peace Corps volunteers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: In the vast majority of cases, being a Peace Corps volunteer is a non-defining characteristic of a biography notable for other activities. A similar category for VISTA volunteers was deleted in 2020. User:Namiba 15:51, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per precedent. Although having known quite a few, and dated several in my distant past, Peace Corp volunteers are amazing folks. I'd long planned to become one after retirement, but sadly have cancer instead.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:41, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete really per WP:PERFCAT since most of these people are notable for other parts of their career. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wars involving the Rus'[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:05, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (1 P, 1 C). WP:OVERLAPCAT: Category:Rus'–Byzantine wars‎ is already in Category:History of Kievan Rus', and Caspian expeditions of the Rusʹ is already in Category:11th century in Kievan Rus', a child of Category:History of Kievan Rus'. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:28, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wildfires in Spain by year[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 1-2 articles per year. Category:Wildfires in Spain and YYYY wildfires are not needed for merge targets since they are already in there (except for the one mentioned). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidan721 (talk • contribs)
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Category:Russian knights[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:45, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D main article Bogatyr. When I found this category, most people in it were indeed bogatyrs: fictional or legendary knights-errant in medieval East Slavic legends / (Kievan) Rus' literature. However, a few were 17th-century Russian noblemen (dvoryanin) and/or voivodes (military chieftains) such as Prokopy Petrovich Lyapunov and Dmitry Pozharsky, who were not bogatyrs. They were arguably "Russian knights", if we choose to apply the English word "knight" to 17th-century Russia. But as we've already got Category:Russian nobility, an elite social class created in the Tsardom of Russia in the 16th century, I moved them there. The remainder of this category consists of fictional or legendary medieval bogatyr, either fictional stock characters such as Anika the Warrior, or possibly historical people about whom most material is probably legendary, and who never had been granted formally knighthood, such as Oslyabya and Alexander Peresvet, who were "monks". "knights" doesn't properly describe them (certainly not the Category:Knights by country, which I have already removed), and "Russian" is anachronistic; Kievan Rus' or just Rus' would be appropriate, but in this case it is unnecessary. The main article Bogatyr provides us the proper word; we don't have to invent anything else. Category:Ukrainian knights is entirely inappropriate as anarchronistic WP:OR, apart from being a WP:SMALLCAT, and should be deleted; the only member Dobrynya is already in Category:Russian knights and can stay there if it is moved to Category:Bogatyrs. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2017 Idaho wildfires[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:02, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Isolated. WP:SMALLCAT. 2 articles. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Netball Superleague seasons[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:01, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: all are WP:SMALLCAT, with no likelihood of expansion, not least because the 2021 and 2022 season categories only contained the eponymously named article. The articles for the seasons are in the parent category already, but the other articles (about grand finals or team articles) are not, and would in my opinion be valid in that category. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question, why should they not merged to their other parent categories? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • They should, I had neglected to notice that they were in multiple categories. Having checked, the other categories look to be correct (as the seasons only have Scotland/Wales categories for the years that Scottish and Welsh teams competed). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:51, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Don't see any reason to merge these categories. Just leave alone. Loads of issues to sort on Wikipedia. Nothing to fix here. Djln Djln (talk) 19:55, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, they're nominated so here we are. If they aid navigation, let us know how. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:55, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Police sports[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:59, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant parent category, only has the sports clubs link in it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 09:33, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military symbols used during the Russian invasion of Ukraine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Military symbols used during the Russo-Ukrainian War. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:00, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Some of these symbols were used since 2014. Nagsb (talk) 08:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians interested in reading[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:59, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, largely overlapping topics of interest. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete without merging as far to broad to facilitate collaboration, given the fact that userboxes such as User:Scepia/book lover populate it. The target itself is also too broad in the same way, and should be converted to a container category. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — while there may be some Wikipedians who are not interested in reading, they are hopefully a minority, and probably the source of most of our troubles.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:35, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rulers of Duklja[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Monarchs of Duklja. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:00, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2B Duklja was a Government: Monarchy, first a principality, later a kingdom. This distinguishes it from other states like, say, the Republic of Ragusa. I've renamed its main article to List of monarchs of Duklja for that reason. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:25, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- ruler is suitably vague, covering both monarchs and those who were vassals of others. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:33, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • These were princes and kings, there is nothing vague about that. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rulers of Moldavia and Wallachia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:58, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:NONDEFINING. This is just a combination of rulers of Moldavia who were also simultaneously at some point rulers of Wallachia. "Moldavia and Wallachia" doesn't refer to a single unified state in this case, except for the brief period of the United Principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia in 1859–1881. There were only two people ever reigning those United Principalities: Alexandru Ioan Cuza (who preferred calling himself Domnitor for the bulk of his reign from 1862 to 1866), and Carol I of Romania (who changed Domnitor to King of Romania in 1881). "Ruler/Prince of Moldavia and Wallachia" wouldn't even have applied to Alexandru from 1859 to 1862; he used two separate titles: "Prince of Moldavia", and "Prince of Wallachia", not a combo. All other people are just ruling it in a non-permanent, non-formalised personal union that was historically prone to change. It's also completely unnecessary; we're not creating categories like Category:Monarchs of Castile and Aragon to stick Category:Ferdinand II of Aragon in there; he is fine in the parallel category trees of Category:Castilian monarchs and Category:Aragonese monarchs. Same goes for people who just so happened to be simultaneously Prince of Moldavia and Prince of Wallachia. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rulers of Wallachia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Princes of Wallachia. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:58, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:C2B Wallachia was a Principality. WP:C2C parent Category:Government of the Principality of Wallachia. WP:C2D main article List of princes of Wallachia (which is in Category:Lists of princes). Triple speedy! I rest my case. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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