Talk:1956 European Cup final
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On 6 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from 1956 European Cup Final to 1956 European Cup final. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Reims wore black shorts in the final
Requested move 6 January 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Clear consensus to move all of these. (note: looks like the rmcloser script won't help me for this, I'll have to go through them all manually. Will take some time.) (closed by non-admin page mover) echidnaLives - talk - edits 01:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- 1956 European Cup Final → 1956 European Cup final
- 1957 European Cup Final → 1957 European Cup final
- 1958 European Cup Final → 1958 European Cup final
- 1959 European Cup Final → 1959 European Cup final
- 1960 European Cup Final → 1960 European Cup final
- 1961 European Cup Final → 1961 European Cup final
- 1962 European Cup Final → 1962 European Cup final
- 1963 European Cup Final → 1963 European Cup final
- 1964 European Cup Final → 1964 European Cup final
- 1965 European Cup Final → 1965 European Cup final
- 1966 European Cup Final → 1966 European Cup final
- 1967 European Cup Final → 1967 European Cup final
- 1968 European Cup Final → 1968 European Cup final
- 1969 European Cup Final → 1969 European Cup final
- 1970 European Cup Final → 1970 European Cup final
- 1971 European Cup Final → 1971 European Cup final
- 1972 European Cup Final → 1972 European Cup final
- 1973 European Cup Final → 1973 European Cup final
- 1974 European Cup Final → 1974 European Cup final
- 1975 European Cup Final → 1975 European Cup final
- 1976 European Cup Final → 1976 European Cup final
- 1977 European Cup Final → 1977 European Cup final
- 1978 European Cup Final → 1978 European Cup final
- 1979 European Cup Final → 1979 European Cup final
- 1980 European Cup Final → 1980 European Cup final
- 1981 European Cup Final → 1981 European Cup final
- 1982 European Cup Final → 1982 European Cup final
- 1983 European Cup Final → 1983 European Cup final
- 1984 European Cup Final → 1984 European Cup final
- 1985 European Cup Final → 1985 European Cup final
- 1986 European Cup Final → 1986 European Cup final
- 1987 European Cup Final → 1987 European Cup final
- 1988 European Cup Final → 1988 European Cup final
- 1989 European Cup Final → 1989 European Cup final
- 1990 European Cup Final → 1990 European Cup final
- 1991 European Cup Final → 1991 European Cup final
- 1992 European Cup Final → 1992 European Cup final
– Three main reasons to make all the "F"s in "Final" lowercase for these:
- 1. per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:SPORTCAPS, in order for us to capitalize, it should be usually capitalized in our sources. Otherwise, the default is to not capitalize and use sentence case. In this case, it is almost universally lowercase in the sources. See this quick source review I just conducted:
Source review of capitalization "f" vs "F" in "European Cup Final"
Non-capitalized "f" in "final" :
- ESPN (2)
- The UEFA
- Sky sports
- The Guardian
- Washington Post
- CBS sports (2)
- The Daily Mirror
- AS
- MassLive
- AV interactive
- Real Madrid
- 90min.com
- SportingNews.com (2)3
- Manchester United
- The Football Faithful
Capitalized "F" in "Final" :
- 2. To be WP:CONSISTENT with the recent rm I closed over at Talk:1993 UEFA Champions League final, which is just the continuation of the European Cup from 1993 - present.
- 3. Per NGRAMS, the lowercase "final" is predominant since around 2006. prior to that, it was equivocal. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 21:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Pings and Notices
- Note: WikiProject Football has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 21:19, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: Pinging participants in the other RM: @Joseph2302:, @GiantSnowman:, @Iggy the Swan:, @PeeJay:, @Jonny Nixon:, @Old Naval Rooftops:, @Kante4:, @2600:1700:31BA:9410:901E:79FA:9205:1A1E:, @EchidnaLives:, @Stevie fae Scotland:. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 21:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per outcomes at the two RMs Stevie fae Scotland listed on the 1993 Champions League final talk page and the reason I gave re the 2022 FIFA World Cup final is titled. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:50, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per WP:NCCAPS. This is not a proper noun. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support but this didn't really need an RM IMHO. The precedent has been set by other RMs and with the ngram the way it is, I'd have just moved these as Uncontroversial. — Amakuru (talk) 22:23, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- I did consider it! But I thought I might get pushback given how many articles it would be! I wanted to set a precedent so nobody reverts. But I will probably go ahead and do that next time — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 00:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Entirely inappropriate, each competition needs to be considered separately, given FA Cup Final RM is going in a different direction (as that is a proper noun)... GiantSnowman 12:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- I did consider it! But I thought I might get pushback given how many articles it would be! I wanted to set a precedent so nobody reverts. But I will probably go ahead and do that next time — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 00:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per the recent similar RMs and WP:NCCAPS. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 02:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Rreagan007 (talk) 05:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 12:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- I also included it there, I think it keeps getting deleted because they don't want to see it. xD — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 13:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support to keep in-line with Champions League. GiantSnowman 12:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Same reasons I gave at Champions League finals RM linked above. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 13:54, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per all. And we can ask User:Tol to use TolBot to execute the bulk move if closer needs help. Dicklyon (talk) 03:47, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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