Talk:Statue of David Farragut (Washington, D.C.)
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[edit]- "Admiral David G. Farragut, (sculpture)", Smithsonian American Art Museum
- "District of Columbia Inventory of Historic Sites", by District of Columbia Office of Planning - Historic Preservation Office, September 30, 2009
- "National Register of Historic Places Inventory--Nomination Form - Civil War Monuments in Washington, D.C.", by Gary Scott, National Park Service, September 19, 1977
- "Farragut Square", by Historic American Buildings Survey, National Park Service
- "David Farragut: America’s First Admiral", National Park Service
- Testament to Union: Civil War Monuments in Washington, D.C., by Kathryn Allamong Jacob, JHU Press, Baltimore, 1998, pgs. 101-110, ISBN 9780801858611
- The Outdoor Sculpture of Washington, D.C., by James M. Goode, Smithsonian Institution Press, Washington, D.C., 1974, pg.101, ISBN 0-87474-149-1
- "Farragut Day", National Republican, April 25, 1881
- "The Statue of Farragut", The New York Times, April 26, 1881
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Requested move 12 January 2016
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The result of the move request was: Moved per talk page consensus to Admiral David G. Farragut (Ream statue). Will leave the redirect in place for now, but after a major link cleanup, it may be appropriate to redirect Admiral David G. Farragut to David Farragut (non-admin closure) Tiggerjay (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Admiral David G. Farragut → Admiral David G. Farragut (statue) – Farragut himself is still the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this name. Compare to General Douglas MacArthur, General Erwin Rommel, Admiral James Stirling, etc. Admiral David G. Farragut (sculpture) would also work. This seems uncontroversial and I'd do it myself if this weren't a GA. I'm surprised this wasn't noticed in GA review. --BDD (talk) 16:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- One thing to keep in mind is that at some time someone (me?) will write an article on Augustus Saint-Gaudens Farragut statue, which, opinion, is really by far a more important statue in American sculpture history than is Vinnie Ream's one. What is that article to be called? it is already a red link in St. Gaudens' article as The David Farragut Memorial. I would suggest that these articles be named Admiral David G. Farragut (Ream) and Admiral David G. Farragut (Saint-Gaudens). Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Support a move including statue either Admiral David G. Farragut (Washington, D.C. statue) or Admiral David G. Farragut (Ream statue) using same recognizable dab as (John Lennon album) ... once you have a dab no need to be cryptic - assuming that Vinnie Ream is known as a mononym like Rembrandt. However Admiral David G. Farragut (Saint-Gaudens) already exists at Admiral David Glasgow Farragut (Manhattan); (Manhattan statue) or (Saint-Gaudens statue) would be more User-friendly. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks @In ictu oculi: for tracking down Saint-Gaudens' Farragut article for me. I fixed the red link in his article, but also thank-you for opening the can of worms about naming sculpture articles. There is a real mess, for example, in the Abraham Lincoln statue world that arrises out of the reality that both Daniel Chester French and Saint-Gaudens both have several of these, SG's two are called 'Standing" and "Seated' except that someone already used Seated Lincoln for one by Gutzon Borglum etc. Some sort of standardization seems to be called for. So perhaps we should put out the call to interested folks? Carptrash (talk) 01:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think (Manhattan) suggests a town district, (Ream) etc alone is going to be very unhelpful when we normally have (Dickens novel) etc, so (-- statue) will always be required. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks @In ictu oculi: for tracking down Saint-Gaudens' Farragut article for me. I fixed the red link in his article, but also thank-you for opening the can of worms about naming sculpture articles. There is a real mess, for example, in the Abraham Lincoln statue world that arrises out of the reality that both Daniel Chester French and Saint-Gaudens both have several of these, SG's two are called 'Standing" and "Seated' except that someone already used Seated Lincoln for one by Gutzon Borglum etc. Some sort of standardization seems to be called for. So perhaps we should put out the call to interested folks? Carptrash (talk) 01:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Support a move to Admiral David G. Farragut (Ream statue). Carptrash is right about the confusion of Wikipedia articles about Abraham Lincoln statues that are (foolishly) organized by year rather than by sculptor. Would the average reader know the year of Daniel Chester French's Seated Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial? By sculptor is the most logical way to go, and add the year or location where there are different statues of the person by the same sculptor.== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 04:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]I wonder if Statue of David Farragut is a more appropriate and concise title? Since there are other statues of Farragut (at least according to his Wikipedia article), disambiguating by location might help as well, so Statue of David Farragut (Washington, D.C.). ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 10 March 2020
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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 13:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Admiral David G. Farragut (Ream statue) → Statue of David Farragut (Washington, D.C.) – WP:VAMOS has been updated and now says: "For portrait sculptures of individuals in public places the forms "Statue of Fred Foo" "Equestrian statue of Fred Foo" or "Bust of Fred Foo" is recommended, unless a form such as "Fred Foo Memorial" or "Monument to Fred Foo" is the WP:COMMONNAME. If further disambiguation is needed, because there is more than one sculpture of the same person with an article, then disambiguation by location rather than the sculptor is usually better." --Another Believer (Talk) 11:31, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:31, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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