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A fact from Arden Warner appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 August 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that particle physicist Arden Warner invented a magnetism-based method for cleaning up oil spills?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Arden Warner.

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Arden's brother's RIP may help; there were lots of sibs and other relatives. It's at https://lyndhurstfuneralhome.com/events/roosevelt-warner/. Mother, Marjorie, is deceased, RIP. See also Dr Lena Hackett of Loyola Uni.; both spoke at TED-Naperville. Good to see the oil spill tech recognized - this stuff could change the world in a small but important way, and has already helped other scientists with other pollution fixes.

Wife, and another link to Rihanna: Chivas Makaroplos of Fermilab, obit., Chivas Makaroplos of Fermilab, obit.

Thanks for all input - any further data is welcome. Implied connections are not encyclopedically needed, and spouse's name is noted but it seems unnecessary to include it. Tools suggest that the article is C grade, but my judgement is that it needs a little more substance for that, perhaps just a couple more publications, which I could source. SeoR (talk) 07:39, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage

> Scientific American: https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/spill-some-oil-magnetize-it-for-cleanup/
> Popular Science: https://www.popsci.com/article/science/clean-oil-spills-magnetize-oil-first/
> and internal interview, Fermilab: https://news.fnal.gov/2021/02/one-minute-with-arden-warner-accelerator-physicist/

Thanks. Two used, the third must check re. external link qualification.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:21, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that American particle physicist Arden Warner, from Barbados, while working at Fermilab, invented a magnetism-based method for cleaning up oil spills? Source: Particle physicist, Fermilab and Barbados: Fermilab news - Feb 2021 (https://news.fnal.gov/2021/02/one-minute-with-arden-warner-accelerator-physicist/), Magnetism-based oil spill cleaning method: Scientific American, 17 Aug 2014 (https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/spill-some-oil-magnetize-it-for-cleanup/)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Omas gegen Rechts
Comment: 7th day after creation, seems stable, interesting topic and background, will submit QPQ Monday.

Created by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 23:50, 22 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

The article is long enough, new enough, original, neutrally worded and carefully sourced. The hook is interesting and properly formatted. I've fixed a typo. I'm not totally happy with the hook: it's grammatically clunky because of multiple subordinate clauses. Instead of describing his as "American particle physicist, from Barbados", can we not call him "a Barbadian-American particle physicist" as the article does? That would make the statement flow more smoothly. Awaiting the QPQ. MartinPoulter (talk) 09:31, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- What do you think about this alt hook? BuySomeApples (talk) 22:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - ALT1:... that Barbadian-American particle physicist Arden Warner invented a magnetism-based method for cleaning up oil spills?
    - Many thanks both. Now adding yesterday's QPQ (I only had brief connections yesterday), Omas gegen Rechts. A good point re. the text flow of the hook (I included Barbados that way to provide a link opportunity); ALT1 looks good, but I think Fermilab is an important item - part of the interest is a particle physicist, and not just from anywhere, but from the actual Fermilab, one of the leading facilities in the world for that scientific domain, producing an environmental invention (even better, one which has already led to another potential break-through technology, for microplastic clearing) - but the latter would be one point too many. So I also offer ALT2 (ALT1 and ALT2 are fully supported by the sources per ALT0).
  - ALT2:... that Barbadian-American particle physicist Arden Warner of Fermilab invented a magnetism-based method for cleaning up oil spills?

Prompted by scanning dozens of candidates for QPQ, I offer two more alts, one highlighting the further invention inspired by Warner's idea, and the other less rich in information, but possibly effective in catching readers' eyes:

ALT3:... that particle physicist Arden Warner invented a magnetism-based method for cleaning up oil spills which has in turn helped inspire a method for clearing ocean-borne microplastics?

Source: Particle physicist, US and Barbados: Fermilab news - Feb 2021 (https://news.fnal.gov/2021/02/one-minute-with-arden-warner-accelerator-physicist/), Magnetism-based oil spill cleaning method: Scientific American, 17 Aug 2014 (https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/spill-some-oil-magnetize-it-for-cleanup/), inspiration for microplastics method: https://abstracts.societyforscience.org/Home/FullAbstract?ProjectId=14829, "a new method for the extraction of microplastics ... This method was inspired by an article by Dr Arden Warner, who used non-toxic iron oxide (magnetite) to clean up oil-spills."

ALT4:... that Barbadian-American Fermilab particle physicist Arden Warner, inventor of a magnetism-based method for cleaning up oil spills, went to the same school as Rihanna?

Source: Particle physicist, Fermilab, US and Barbados: Fermilab news - Feb 2021 (https://news.fnal.gov/2021/02/one-minute-with-arden-warner-accelerator-physicist/), Magnetism-based oil spill cleaning method: Scientific American, 17 Aug 2014 (https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/spill-some-oil-magnetize-it-for-cleanup/), school: https://www.nationnews.com/2017/04/09/bajans-wand-ready-for-next-oil-spill/ "My interest in physics developed when I was in Combermere in third or fourth form,” Warner told the SUNDAY SUN & https://barbados.loopnews.com/content/rihanna-has-caused-world-truly-look-barbados Rihanna ... her secondary school, The Combermere School

Thanks for getting the QPQ done. Now all the requirements are met. Interesting to see the range of options for the hook. I prefer ALT2. It's succinct and grabby and gets across some interesting information. Thanks User:BuySomeApples for your crucial input. The Rihanna connection is an interesting coincidence, but I'd prefer to prioritise the scientific merit over the celebrity connection. ALT3 expresses a very interesting fact but it's a lot to take in for a general audience. Better to have a grammatically simple hook to draw a wide audience into clicking the link for more. Well done User:SeoR for improving Wikipedia's coverage of scientists.

MartinPoulter (talk) 15:47, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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