Talk:Chinese immigration to Mexico
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[edit]I read through a good portion of this article and thought it was great and interesting. Right off the bat though, I felt the title and intro were a little misleading. Has immigration stopped since the 1980s? If not, maybe the intro could be reworded ("...mainly spans the decades...") or the title changed. Right now, it implies to me that this article covers all immigration or that all immigration completely stopped in the 1980s. I see how in this article, it was handled slightly different. This is not my area of expertise, I just wanted to comment.--NortyNort (talk) 11:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Immigration of Chinese to Mexico stopped in the 1920s with an exception of some Nationalist Chinese refugees after the Communists won. The last of the repatriations occurred in the 1980s. Most "Chinese" in Mexico are mixed-race and almost all are Mexican born. Ill take suggestions as to how to reword and Ill check the German immigration article.Thelmadatter (talk) 12:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not true, they are many Chinese immigrants arriving to Mexicali each year. --Jcmenal (talk) 07:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please find a source for this. I would love to read it. Everything Ive read when I wrote this states the opposite.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm surprised that the intro was not changed in the four years since the issue was first brought up. It really is misleading, makes it seem like immigration magically stoped in the 1980s. It's also apparent that Mexico is experiencing a new wave of Chinese immigration. I strongly recommend that the tone of the entire article be changed to also include current immigration. Here is a link on this new wave: http://elfinanciero.com.mx/economia/mexico-vive-segunda-oleada-de-inmigrantes-provenientes-de-china.html Xochiztli (talk) 08:51, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Please find a source for this. I would love to read it. Everything Ive read when I wrote this states the opposite.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not true, they are many Chinese immigrants arriving to Mexicali each year. --Jcmenal (talk) 07:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Immigration of Chinese to Mexico stopped in the 1920s with an exception of some Nationalist Chinese refugees after the Communists won. The last of the repatriations occurred in the 1980s. Most "Chinese" in Mexico are mixed-race and almost all are Mexican born. Ill take suggestions as to how to reword and Ill check the German immigration article.Thelmadatter (talk) 12:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Uh....
[edit]Something strikes me about this as very wrong:
- While it did not meet the same scale as what happened in the United States, hundreds of Chinese in northern Mexico were tortured and murdered in the 1920s and 1930s.[15] The most serious act occurred earlier. It was the 1911 massacre of over 300 Chinese in Torreón, Coahuila, which was carried out by a faction of Pancho Villa’s army. This army would sack Chinese homes and businesses as well.
"the same scale as happened in the US" - implying that many more than mere hundreds of Chiense were "tortured and murdered"......is this comparison real? Apparently it's in a source, but how factual/verifiable is that source? Anti-Chinese violence was indeed rife in teh US - but details of the comparison seem needed here; it seems like hyperbole to me. And, proportionately, more Chinese seem to have been expelled from Mexico than ever happened in the US or Canada.Skookum1 (talk) 07:10, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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Number of descendents
[edit]Neither the Mexican census nor any government agency collect data on ancestry. The only info available is on immigration.
Any number attained from third party sources are estimates. I am removing the 70,000 claim (which has been in the article for a while) since its source is unclearly attributed to a "2008 report by the Foreign Relations Department".
I am also again removing the edits made by an IP. The user is being uncooperative and continues to add the same problematic info.
The 480,000 descendant claim is not in the link provided and there is no indication of how the numbers were derived. The link states 400,000 Chinese descent based on "incomplete statistics" and 80,000 oversees Chinese (which significantly contradicts immigrant numbers that are collected by the Instituto Nacional de Migración and INEGI). No source given for how it went from "480000 in 2016 to 1.9 million in 2019".
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