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DEAD!!

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didn't he die about 2 years ago? i've never seen a wiki page lag like this.

i'm a newb and don't know how to fix it. but s/o surely should!

also, perhaps, a note in the baba wawa section that she waited until his passing to reveal the affair.

66.105.218.4 (talk) 06:37, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any reference to him having died. There would be Orbits in major newspapers and magazines. - SimonLyall (talk) 12:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, even though Brooke is 91 and not in the news very often, he is doing well and therefore is far from dying!74.163.169.42 (talk) 22:06, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I quite honestly believe that it will be October 26, 2019 before Brooke is dead.72.144.138.250 (talk) 21:59, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First African American  ??

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First African Americen to be elected Senator? How about Blanche Bruce and Hiram Rhoades Revels --170.35.208.20 20:24, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're playing fast and loose with the definition of the word "elected". I am not sure what EVERY State did before the Seventeenth Amendment in 1913. For all I know every State was free to set up its own procedure for choosing that State's Senators. And maybe some States DID have popular election of its U.S. Senators before 1913. But it's perfectly reasonable to assume that if Blanche Bruce and Hiram Rhoades Revels served before Edward Brooke, he can STILL be the first African-American Senator to be ELECTED. All that you have to do to resolve any perceived inconsistency is to postulate that Blanche Bruce and Hiram Rhoades Revels served before the Seventeenth Amendment and obtained their Senate seats by whatever OTHER means their respective States were using at the time of THEIR service to choose Senators, and that the mechanism for their obtaining of their seats was NOT an election, as later required by the Seventeenth Amendment. The sentence doesn't say he was the first African-American Senator, but, only, that he was the first ELECTED African-American Senator. If Blanche Bruce and Hiram Rhoades Revels were not ELECTED, they don't count as "first" for this purpose. (And even if the Constitution requires something like, say, a vote amongst State Legislators to appoint the Senator, I mean, get real, in common parlance that is not an "Election of a Senator", just as when State Legislators vote on a Bill or Resolution we don't say that the Bill or Resolution was "elected" to become a law or a statement of the opinion of the State. We would, in common parlance, say that the Legislature voted in order to APPOINT, not ELECT, the person.)2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]
Rhodes and Bruce went to the Senate before the ratification of the Seventeenth Amendment which stipulated direct election of Senators. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shsilver (talk • contribs) 16:44, 25 July 2005

If any of you REALLY want know who Edward W Brooke is, please read his book, BRIDGING THE DIVIDE. Ed Brooke reconizes he was the first African American to be elected since reconstruction. I went to a book signing. Spoke of this. There have been only five African Americans every elected to the Senate. Hiram Rhoades Revels 1870, Blanche Kelso Bruce 1870, Edward W Brook 1966, Carol Mosely Braun 1993, and Barack Obama 2004. As to his COLOR, he has been fighting cancer. His treatments my have been the cause. If Ed Brooke saw this question, he would be very disappointed. I leave you will what he wrote in my ll year old daughter's book: "With best wishs for a life filled with purpose, achivement, and joy!" Sincerly Ed Brooke

What you wrote about his inscription in your daughter's book makes no sense in regards to a discussion of his color. How does his inscription touch upon his color in any way? Anyway, long before Edward Brooke had cancer, he never looked particularly black. That's a result of Southern white-supremacist racist theory that says if you have ONE black ancestor, you're black. It's a ridiculous outdated paleolithic standard that isn't applied with equal consistency to any other ethnicity.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]
Don't be sure that either Hiram Rhoades Revels or Blanche Kelso were ELECTED to their Senate seats. If they served before 1913, they might have been APPOINTED by some process other than what we call an Election, which is when ordinary citizens who have the right to vote go to the polls on Election Day.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]

Revels and Bruce were elected in the same way every senator was prior to the 17th amendment ratified in 1913, and that was they were elected by the state legislatures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.195.66.48 (talk) 14:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If Legislators ever voted to determine who that State's Senator would be, that is, in English as it is understood today, "APPOINTING" the Senator, not "ELECTING" the Senator.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]

Presidential Medal of Freedom - no citation

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Brooke is listed in Category:Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients and the List of notable Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients#U.S. Members of Congress, but there is nothing in his article about it ... can someone please provide a date or something? —Dennette 19:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC) boom[reply]


Keynote Speaker?

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I did not add this, as I can't find a reference to this anywhere online or in Wikipedia, but I believe that Senator Brooke was the keynote speaker to the Republican National Convention in 1968. This probably makes him the first African-American to be a keynote speaker to a major American party's convention. Can anyone back that up? Henrymrx 19:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Barbara Walters Affair

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"The affair was reportedly ended out of fear that if it became public it could ruin both of their up-and-coming careers." I lmao'd at this!! Is this neutral? Am I the only one who found this hilarious? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.223.185 (talk) 19:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article now makes it clear that this is what Walters said. That's a fact; we can leave speculation to readers. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conservatism

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I don't think this arcticle should be placed in category "African American conservatism". Brooke was a Republican but was not a conservative, esspecially GOP conservative Darth Kalwejt (talk) 20:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd tend to agree and may remove it later.--T. Anthony (talk) 06:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Health Issues

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I listened to Roland S. Martin and Tom Joyner interview Senator Brooke in late August. During the interview, Brooke said that he had serious health issues and is not able to walk in crowds. How is he doing now?68.215.94.247 (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC) Not to worry; I think he is in very good health now.72.153.57.29 (talk) 14:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awards

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I searched Senator Brooke on Google, and learned that he is to get another award on May 22. What is that about?74.163.168.192 (talk) 00:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed several awards from the list because I can't find any references in RSs. If someone can reference these they should be re-added: American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal, World War II Victory Medal--Johnsemlak (talk) 14:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Black?

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He looks more Anglo than Obama. Who were his parents? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.7.178.207 (talk) 00:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC) If you want to know why he looks more Anglo than Obama, and who his parents were, you should read his autobiography, "Bridging the Divide: My Life," which is my favorite book!72.148.141.77 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added tag

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The template's boilerplate language doesn't quite fit, so by way of clarifying: That remainder of that section has a line-by-line, year-by-year list of accomplishments / honors in a resume-like format, rather than being written in paragraph prose with context. Also, very significantly, these undoubtedly true statements nonetheless need to have footnoted citations. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure where this quote should go

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He refused to endorse Sen. Barry Goldwater for president in 1964, commenting later, "You can't say the Negro left the Republican Party; the Negro feels he was evicted from the Republican Party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.199.68.222 (talk) 05:30, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Death on first day of Congress.

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So having been a public servant who only ever served entire terms, all the dates in his CV, his infobox, are January 3rd, and then he died on January 3rd. Silas Maxfield (talk) 17:38, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ethnic irish quote

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I removed the unsourced claim: "the Democratic Party drew from ethnic Irish and union members who were a majority in his district and unlikely to vote for a Republican or an African-American". The citation to the 2000 Boston Globe article mentions nothing of the sort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snarfblaat (talk • contribs) 17:39, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Barbara Walters Affair

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I see no mention of his affair with Barbara Walters. While not the measure of a man, it did become public and was a notable event in his life. Should it not be mentioned in 2 or 3 lines? Seki1949 (talk) 18:06, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any reliable sources on which such an addition could be based? --JBL (talk) 18:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
From the Barbara Waters page: In Walters's autobiography Audition, she claimed that she had an affair in the 1970s with Edward Brooke, then a married United States Senator from Massachusetts. It is not clear whether Walters also was married at the time. Walters said they ended the affair to protect their careers from scandal.[73]
I'll check to see what else I can find. As a proposal: In Barbara Waters autobiography Audition, she stated that she and the then married Brooke had an affair.Seki1949 (talk) 19:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/us/edward-brooke-pioneering-us-senator-in-massachusetts-dies-at-95.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seki1949 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"In May 2008, the television newswoman Barbara Walters revealed in a memoir that she and Mr. Brooke had begun a clandestine romance in 1973. After telling him in a letter that she would divulge the affair in her book, he wrote back “a very nice note,” Ms. Walters said." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seki1949 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Holds the remarkable distinction of not only being a U.S. Senator but also holding a U.S. Senate seat. What an achievement!

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As I type this, the article contains the text "and he was the first African-American United States senator since 1881 to have held a United States Senate seat". So, of all of the African-American United States [S]enators since 1881, Brooke was the only one to hold a United States Senate seat. The other United States Senators who both (a) were African-American and (b) serving after 1881 were not also (c) holders of a United States Senate seat, despite being United States senators. Please explain in the article (I'm past having anything explained to ME at this point) how it's possible to be a United States Senator of ANY ethnicity and NOT hold a United States Senate seat. What is the difference between being a U.S. Senator and "holding a United States Senate seat"? It's possible to do one and not do the other, but I don't see how. Maybe Wikipedia could take some of the money it's always asking people to donate and spend it on fixing my brain so that I can get my ahead around being a U.S. Senator while NOT holding a U.S. Senate seat. It's time for Wikipedia to admit that they do this to me deliberately. They KNOW I can't take it anymore, and am on the brink. They're trying to push me over the edge. And succeeding.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]

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