Talk:Jadavpur University

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Former good article nominee Jadavpur University was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
April 20, 2012 Good article nominee Not listed

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Hindi Name Spelling Changed[edit]

The Hindi name of Jadavpur University (bn: যাদবপুর বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়) should be "यादवपुर विश्वविद्यालय" as per the practise and this also is supported by the Hindi name visible in the university logo. So जादवपुर is replaced by यादवपुर. --অরিত্র মুখার্জী, কলকাতা (Aritra Mukherjee, Kolkata) 10:01, 7 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiAritra (talkcontribs)


Propaganda[edit]

This page has been subject to vandalism before, notably by editing alumni lists, presumably as pranks.

The latest improper use of the page is propaganda. Continued usage of such kind can lead to blocking of IP and banning of username.

128.2.179.205 23:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Authoress?[edit]

While authoress might be lexically correct as designating a female author, but it is generally considered impolite and politically incorrect usage nowadays. I have replaced authoress with author in context of Nabaneeta Dev Sen (and not Navaneeta, as originally given). Please comment. Priyatu 04:22, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Wrong Info[edit]

Is jadavpur university just 34 acres in area as stated in the profile? i dont think so. please check. actually it has two campusses of 58 acres and 26 acres making it an 84 acre campus. i edited accordingly.

Cleanup and additions[edit]

Hello, I've tried to clean up some infelicities in the original article and add information that isn't available on the official website. Some references would be a good idea. Does anyone have the history of the NCE? I think that's the missing text by Haridas Mukherjee. Will try and track it down on Monday. Rimi 20:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

deleted non notable A7[edit]

Deleted Ayan Roy Chowdhury from distinguished alumni. This person is a graduate student at the University of Maryland College Park, is not yet a Ph.D. and has been publishing since 2003. Probably too early for him to be on this list. He gets 21 hits in Google Scholar (a very unreliable resource, though, I have to admit) but most of these are trivial. Talk to me if I'm wrong. Rimi 20:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Information overdose[edit]

I am removing these huuge, clunky lists of schools, departments and student clubs which make the article difficult to read. Also trying to NPOV the article. Whoever added these probably did it with good intentions, but the article is in a proper mess right now. ray 15:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Done. I have kept the factual additions, though. I will go through the history of the article to check if other facts were deleted, and incorporate them. And check on reverse links for possible updates to the article. The alum list probably needs some edits. We probably need one more photograph - for student activities / Sanskriti. And do any photos exist of ISIJU ? ray 18:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


What about T.C. Sinha?[edit]

Shouldn't the connection between his institute and Jadavpur University be mentioned?

Austerlitz -- 88.75.73.103 (talk) 15:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Comparative Literature[edit]

The department of Comparative Literature at Jadavpur University was established in 1956 by Buddhadeb Basu. Till date, it is the only full-fledged department of Comparative Literature in Bengal.

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Amiya Dev
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Buddhadeb Basu
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David McCutchion
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Manabendra Bandyopadhyay
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Nabaneeta Dev Sen
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Sudhindranath Dutta


Ian Cairns (talk) 22:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

unsourced sections[edit]

I removed the following unsourced sections, which are immaterial to the subject, from the page. Feel free to reinstate it with sources.

Notable faculty[edit]

Notable alumni[edit]

--Muhandes (talk) 12:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Added content: Jadavpur University Press[edit]

According to the news report of Times Of India <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata-/JU-to-launch-publication-house/articleshow/6811889.cms> this section has been added to the main article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiAritra (talkcontribs) 15:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

It's borderline WP:CRYSTAL, as such things may take years, and many times fall before completion. But I removed the speculation (where does it say "very soon"?) and added dates so I think it's valid to mentions the plans.--Muhandes (talk) 23:16, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Placement[edit]

this section has been modified according to the university placement page. Statements without citations are removed (e.g. "placement is one of the best after IITs", JU placement is good but we don't have any rankings based on placements among the universities from any reliable source) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiAritra (talkcontribs) 20:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Importance[edit]

Are the molestation case and sanitary protest that much important and notable to deserve even a separate paragraph? There are already a lot of controversies which circle around JU each month. So what makes these two incidents so special to deserve even a separate paragraph? Arka 92 07:34, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jadavpur University/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Leventio (talk · contribs) 09:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

  • I have begun to review the article and will post a full review over the next few days. I encourage other editors to participate throughout this GA review.
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well written:
1a. the prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct.
  • General issues exist with this article's wording. Clarity remains to be the major issue with the use of colloquial language present within the article.
  • Several grammatical errors are present. A general copyedit is recommended.
1b. it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  • Lead section needs some work. Note that the lead section should be a general overview of all the information to be covered in the article. This is clearly not the case with the lead in this article and must be expanded. Also note that a issue of neutrality is present in claims of the university being "considered to be one of the foremost centres of research and learning in India" without further citation (refer to WP:LEAD).
  • Large sections of this article continues to use long sequences of lists, with no further conceptualization to reinforce the information in the article (especially in the section regarding centres of excellence and alumni). This needs to be rectified by developing them into proper proses (refer to WP:PROSE).
  • Lists of "notable people" in an article, such as the "Notable alumni" section in an article on a university, tend to accrue red links, or non-links, listing people of unverifiable notability. Such list entries should be removed; the lists should remain confined to names of people whose notability is attested by an existing article or other reference (refer to WP:REDDEAL).
  • Several sections of the article needs to be reworked due to the presence of wording which seems to be placed for the sole reason of puffery (refer to WP:PEACOCK) (e.g. It is surrounded by many renowned educational institutes; was designed by Nandalal Bose, a key member of the Bengal School of Art, who was one of the great masters; etc.) This needs to be rectified as it contends with the neutrality of the article.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • Majority of the article has no references or inline citations. Only eleven inline citations throughout the entire article. This results in much of the article to be questionable in content. (refer to WP:NOCITE).
  • All of the external links, as well as the majority of inline citations originate from the university itself. This is troubling and raises questions of the article's neutrality. It would be beneficial for this article to find third party sources for this article (refer to WP:SELFSOURCE).
2b. all in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines.
  • As stated earlier, the majority of the article lacks citations to reinforce contentious claims. This and other areas which may be contended (i.e. academics, student life, alumni) and must be rectified if this article is to be considered for GA-nomination.
  • Several contentious issues use dead links which to reinforce their claims. This must be rectified (i.e. academic rankings).
2c. it contains no original research.
  • "Admission to Jadavpur University is highly competitive, as it consistently ranks amongst the best colleges in India." A statement such as this, which lacks any third party backing is highly contentious and may constitute as original research as no citation, of any party, is provided to reinforce such a statement.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  • The coverage does seem to comply with the policies of the Wikiproject Universities' WP:UNIGUIDE. However, it can be more comprehensive, with further information on the financial operation of the university.
  • It must be noted however that with the claim in the article of the university being a "top research university", a research section (barring the list of research centres at the university) appear to be absent. There should exist a general explanation of the university's research operations, endeavours and financing.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  • The article is largely focused on the university, as outlined by the Wikiproject Universities' University Guide.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  • The lack of verifiability and citations within the article make several statements in the article appear as opinions rather then actual fact. This can be rectified by either reinforcing contentious claims with proper references, or with its removal.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  • The following article does not appear to be experiencing any editing wars or content dispute. Only 15 revisions have been made to the article in the past 90 days.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by images:
6a. images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  • All images appear to be self-works which have been published in the Wikimedia Commons with the creator's permission.
6b. images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • Wikipedia is not a image repository (refer to WP:NOTGALLERY). Keep in mind, GA articles are articles which meet encyclopedic standards, and Wikipedia's Manual of Style calls for images to be interspersed individually throughout the article near the relevant text which its caption is relating to (refer to WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE). Many of the images in the article do not meet this standard. Furthermore, all image captions used in the article do not relate to the immediate subject matter at all (refer to WP:CAPTION).
  • It is suggested that a serious reduction of images be made in the article (and moved to the Wikimedia Commons if not already done so). Pick and choose the images which you believe would best illustrate the relevant text.
7. Overall assessment.
  • The article is definitely coming out nicely, and significant efforts to make the article fall in line with the standards set out by Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities can definitely be seen. However, it must be noted that the fact that the article lacks any degree of citation alone already makes this article unqualified to be nominated as a Good Article. Further work is also needed to bring this article in line with the Manual of Style (especially the sections which is entirely composed of lists). The image section also needs significant fixes, as many of them seem to be placed in the article for the sole reason to create a gallery and/or aesthetics. There is definite potential in this article to become a Good Article, however, until these issues are addressed, it cannot be expected for this article to pass GA-nominations. The issues raised above is the reason as to why a quick-fail was issued.

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