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Proposed merge with Operational krav maga (OKM)[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to Merge Peter Rehse (talk) 10:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

The one is a subset of the other. There is insufficient material for two articles, and unlikely to be on the future. Fiddle Faddle 13:45, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Capitalization[edit]

I wonder why it is "Krav Maga" (which seems like a person's name) and not "krav maga"? --Spiros71 (talk) 08:55, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Most of the sources in the article refer to it as "Krav Maga". --Λeternus (talk) 09:21, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
But on what basis is it a proper noun? I think normal style standards supersede improper typography. Holy (talk) 16:43, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I would suggest that it has always been written in title case as Krav Maga is the title of the system? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.72.119 (talk) 09:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

"It has always been done this way" is a valid excuse for nothing. It's a common noun and should be in lower case. Kortoso (talk) 23:34, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
See karate for instance. Kortoso (talk) 21:07, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Criticism section[edit]

The Criticism section is extremely innapropriate and not at all to Wikipedia standards. It is cited incorrectly and is little above the tirade of an MMA fan who thinks krav maga is "lame". I don't have the knowledge of the subject to fix.  Mailman9  (talk)  16:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree, it is poorly written and the source only mentions Krav Maga in passing (qualifying as an example of coatracking -- it's more in praise of MMA than it is a criticism of Krav Maga). It's also not clear that the source is a reliable source. I'm sure there are plenty of good quality criticisms of Krav Maga that are well-written and properly sourced and they should be included here but this is not an example of one. SQGibbon (talk) 13:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The source is the authoritative Italian Grappling and MMA Federation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.13.16.218 (talkcontribs) 23 September 2014 (UTC)
You haven't addressed the other problems. SQGibbon (talk) 00:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

http://www.figmma.it/mixed-martial-arts/che-cosa-sono-le-mma.html MMA (born in brazil, and originally called Vale Tudo, a sport were fighter from different stiles fight each other to see which martial arts or combat sports was the most efficient) have exposed the martial arts-scam, specifically all the martial arts that make people belive they can learn to defend them self without ever compete. The first MMA competitions (fought bare nuckles and with less restrictive rules than today) demonstrate that all the martial arts that do not include sports competition (such as krav maga) are totally ineffective in a real fight situation, based on the principle that: "You cannot learn how to fight without fighting". As a matter fact there was a total domination of the martial arts and combat sports that involve sports competition (Lotta, Grappling, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, luta livre brasiliana, sambo, judo, sanda, muay thai, kick boxing, boxe, karate kumite, ecc...) compared to the martial arts that don't do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.115.168 (talk) 19:34, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

The source is the authoritative Italian Grappling and MMA Federation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.13.16.218 (talkcontribs) 23 September 2014 (UTC)
As if krav maga is totally ineffective in a real fight situation it remains doubtfully, why so many special forces (German KSK, GSG9, SWAT, and others as stated in the wikipedia article) are learning it. (source: http://www.koeln-krav-maga.de/selbstverteidigung-ist-kein-kampfsport.php). And why MMA fighters have problems against US marines (allthough they use thier own hand to hand technique). video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyllQuQuHZE

In defense of Krav Maga as a fughting system:-

An MMA fighter saying that Krav Maga is ineffective is akin to a 50 cal. machine-gun opperator saying an UZI is ineffective. Of course a well drilled, extrememly well trained MMA Fighter would happily take on a hobby Krav Maga student in the same was as my Krav Maga instructor (level E3 - 3rd dan) would happily destroy a hobby MMA Fighter. How would a hobby MMA fighter fare against multiple attackers, knife attacks, baseball bat attacks or being held at gun-point? It's very much a case horses for courses. I'm sure we can all agree that a cucumber makes a pretty sucky carrot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.72.119 (talk) 10:13, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Short answer to 'why are so many special forces using it'. It's simple, they aren't. At best they've trialed it through seminars or short demos but outside of Israel no one has actually adopted it as an 'official system', its pure myth that special forces or law enforcement communities are taught it. Krav Maga fanboys have been promoting that rubbish for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.65.7 (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Link/redirect[edit]

To whomever it may concern: I got linked to this article via Wikipedia:Deleted articles with freaky titles where the compiler commented that Jew-jitzu should really be a redirect to here. --80.187.110.67 (talk) 09:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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