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Bad Grammar

I have removed the bad grammar banner from this page, the grammar seems fine to me, and the only reason it appears to have been posted is in reaction to the use of Gillman's pronouns, which are they/them. If you feel the grammar besides the use of the singular they is questionable, I am happy to have a discussion about it here. Anarchyshake (talk) 15:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The singular they is the grammar problem. This article does not belong to Gillman, we are not required to follow the subject's preferences. I have edited the article to eliminate all pronouns that referred to Gillman, so the issue is moot. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:54, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for these edits, the page reads well. Regardless of Gillman's preferences, the use of singular they is not, however, an indicator of poor grammar. However, as you've said, the issue is now moot. Anarchyshake (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd just like to say that a binary person's pronouns would never be removed in this way, and a binary trans person's pronoun preferences would never be disrespected in this way, and I am strongly opposed to the deliberate editing of a page about a nonbinary person to entirely remove pronouns in this way. Does wikipedia have a style policy on this issue, the removal of singular they pronouns? --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 21:57, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:Gender-neutral language, "There is no Wikipedia consensus either for or against the singular they". This is an essay, but there is nothing in the Manual of Style at MOS:GENDERID to prohibit the use of singular they either. I have added the new MOS-NB template to this talk page to clarify that the subject is non-binary and that singular they pronouns are acceptable on Wikipedia. Funcrunch (talk) 14:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference: Gillman's pronouns are they/them

The statement that Melanie Gillman's pronouns are they/them has been removed from the main article, but future editors are very likely to come here and make edits and accidentally use she/her based on their first name, which is traditionally usually seen as a female name.

So for their reference, Gillman's pronouns are they/them. Here's a source: an archive of Gillman's Twitter bio from November 2016, with "they/them". --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 22:01, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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