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Yamara 15:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minguo

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Look up the page history of Minguo. We had an article like this before it was merged.--Jiang 13:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

conversation chart

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The conversation chart is pretty stupid, I hope no one mind if I take it away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.136.179.59 (talk) 10:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's any harm in keeping it.--Jiang (talk) 13:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Someone has messed up the conversion table, e.g. the current year 2016 should be ROC year 105, not 104, and the ROC calendar should start from year 1, not 0. The formula should be to subtract 1911 from the Gregorian calendar year, not 1912. Could the person who made the mistake or someone else who knows what they're doing please fix this serious problem?--Julian Clegg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.211.33.66 (talk) 07:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dates before 1911

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How does the calendar deal with dates prior to 1911? Do they use PROC, BROC, etc? FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this remains entirely unaddressed in this article but our year project has taken it upon itself to label every year in human history since c. 719 BC with a "Minguo calendar" date that reads NNNN before ROC followed by 民前NNNN年.
No idea whether this is the official system on Taiwan itself. If it is, it needs to be clarified how its cutoffs actually work since surely it doesn't retroactively apply the Gregorian calendar to dates where the Europeans themselves still use the Julian system. I'd imagine most scholarly/governmental work in the system uses the actual historical Chinese system of using the lunisolar Chinese calendar with imperial era dating. It should be clarified if that is the official implementation of the system, though, and what the exact cutoff date is where dates went from using Chinese lunisolar months and days to Gregorian months and days. — LlywelynII 19:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RfC at WPTAIWAN and WPCHINA. — LlywelynII 20:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Table

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The Chinese Wikipedia uses this table to explain the Minguo calendar:

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Post-Republic
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬子 癸丑 甲寅 乙卯 丙辰 丁巳 戊午 己未 庚申 辛酉
Minguo calendar 元年 二年 三年 四年 五年 六年 七年 八年 九年 十年
Japanese era calendar 明治45年
大正元年
2年 3年 4年 5年 6年 7年 8年 9年 10年
Gregorian calendar 1912 1913 1914 1915 1916 1917 1918 1919 1920 1921
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬戌 癸亥 甲子 乙丑 丙寅 丁卯 戊辰 己巳 庚午 辛未
Minguo calendar 十一年 十二年 十三年 十四年 十五年 十六年 十七年 十八年 十九年 二十年
Japanese era calendar 大正11年 12年 13年 14年 大正15年
昭和元年
2年 3年 4年 5年 6年
Gregorian calendar 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬申 癸酉 甲戌 乙亥 丙子 丁丑 戊寅 己卯 庚辰 辛巳
Minguo calendar 二十一年 二十二年 二十三年 二十四年 二十五年 二十六年 二十七年 二十八年 二十九年 三十年
Japanese era calendar 昭和7年 8年 9年 19年 11年 12年 13年 14年 15年 16年
Gregorian calendar 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬午 癸未 甲申 乙酉 丙戌 丁亥 戊子 己丑 庚寅 辛卯
Minguo calendar 三十一年 三十二年 三十三年 三十四年 三十五年 三十六年 三十七年 三十八年 三十九年 四十年
Japanese era calendar 昭和17年 18年 19年 20年 21年 22年 23年 24年 25年 26年
(後略)
Gregorian calendar 1942 1943 1944 1945 1946 1947 1948 1949 1950 1951
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬辰 癸巳 甲午 乙未 丙申 丁酉 戊戌 己亥 庚子 辛丑
Minguo calendar 四十一年 四十二年 四十三年 四十四年 四十五年 四十六年 四十七年 四十八年 四十九年 五十年
Gregorian calendar 1952 1953 1954 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959 1960 1961
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬寅 癸卯 甲辰 乙巳 丙午 丁未 戊申 己酉 庚戌 辛亥
Minguo calendar 五十一年 五十二年 五十三年 五十四年 五十五年 五十六年 五十七年 五十八年 五十九年 六十年
Gregorian calendar 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 1967 1968 1969 1970 1971
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬子 癸丑 甲寅 乙卯 丙辰 丁巳 戊午 己未 庚申 辛酉
Minguo calendar 六十一年 六十二年 六十三年 六十四年 六十五年 六十六年 六十七年 六十八年 六十九年 七十年
Gregorian calendar 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬戌 癸亥 甲子 乙丑 丙寅 丁卯 戊辰 己巳 庚午 辛未
Minguo calendar 七十一年 七十二年 七十三年 七十四年 七十五年 七十六年 七十七年 七十八年 七十九年 八十年
Gregorian calendar 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬申 癸酉 甲戌 乙亥 丙子 丁丑 戊寅 己卯 庚辰 辛巳
Minguo calendar 八十一年 八十二年 八十三年 八十四年 八十五年 八十六年 八十七年 八十八年 八十九年 九十年
Gregorian calendar 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬午 癸未 甲申 乙酉 丙戌 丁亥 戊子 己丑 庚寅 辛卯
Minguo calendar 九十一年 九十二年 九十三年 九十四年 九十五年 九十六年 九十七年 九十八年 九十九年 一百年
Gregorian calendar 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011
Heavenly Stem calendar 壬辰 癸巳 甲午 乙未 丙申 丁酉 戊戌 己亥 庚子 辛丑
Minguo calendar 一〇一年 一〇二年 一〇三年 一〇四年 一〇五年 一〇六年 一〇七年 一〇八年 一〇九年 一一〇年
Gregorian calendar 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021
Pre-Republic
Minguo calendar 前一年 前二年 前三年 前四年 前五年 前六年 前七年 前八年 前九年 前十年
Qing Dynasty era calendar 宣統3 2 光緒34 33 32 31 30 29 28
Heavenly Stem calendar 辛亥 庚戌 己酉 戊申 丁未 丙午 乙巳 甲辰 癸卯 壬寅
Japanese era calendar 明治44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35
Gregorian calendar 1911 1910 1909 1908 1907 1906 1905 1904 1903 1902
Minguo calendar 前十一年 前十二年 前十三年 前十四年 前十五年 前十六年 前十七年 前十八年 前十九年 前二十年
Qing Dynasty era calendar 光緒27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18
Heavenly Stem calendar 辛丑 庚子 己亥 戊戌 丁酉 丙申 乙未 甲午 癸巳 壬辰
Japanese era calendar 明治34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25
Gregorian calendar 1901 1900 1899 1898 1897 1896 1895 1894 1893 1892

It makes comparisons with the Japanese era calendar as well, which uses a similar kind of concept. Should the current table here be adopted in a similar fashion, if it makes explanation easier through comparison? --benlisquareTCE 10:55, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Expiration dates

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"When used to mark expiration dates on products for export, they can be misunderstood as having an expiration date 11 years earlier than intended." I doubt whether that is still the case. Before the Minguo calendar reached 100, this was likely to happen, as "January 23, 98" could be understood to mean "January 23, 1998". However, a date like "January 23, 104" is unlikely to be misunderstood as "January 23, 2004". I know, we have to find sources and stuff, but isn't this text a bit obsolete? Steinbach (talk) 17:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. No opposition to move. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]



Minguo calendarRepublic of China calendar – As per WP:USEENGLISH and as per sources such as [1][2] [3]. Obviously the current name should remain mentioned in the lead paragraph. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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Requested move 24 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) ~SS49~ {talk} 21:21, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Republic of China calendarDate and time notation in Taiwan – To expand topic to include time, as part of Category:Date and time representation by country. Ythlev (talk) 16:34, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose – This article is not about date and time in Taiwan, it's about the RoC calendar, which was also used on the mainland for a significant portion of time. If you'd like to create an article about date and time in Taiwan, feel free to do so. RGloucester 00:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Given this article is so short, I don't see why there needs to be separate articles. Ythlev (talk) 08:47, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
While there is some overlap, the two are not the same as 59.149.124.29 notes below. If the goal is to add content, create a date and time notation in Taiwan article first, then propose a merger if it is warranted. However, as with Japan and Korea, the available material easily warrants two articles. —  AjaxSmack  15:45, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Calendar name and transcription

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The Chinese characters say 紀年 (jìnián) but the transcription says jìyuán (紀元?). I'm not confident enough in Chinese or this calendar's terminology to know which one ought to change, but I am sure the Chinese characters are inconsistent with the transcriptions.TywysogMelyn (talk) 08:26, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Date and time notation in Taiwan" listed at Redirects for discussion

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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Date and time notation in Taiwan. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 16#Date and time notation in Taiwan until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation Discrepancy

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民國紀年 (traditional Chinese) and 民国纪年 (simplified Chinese) would be transcribed in “Standard” Mandarin as “Mínguó Jìnián” (not as shown on the Wikipedia page as “Mínguó Jìyuán”) and in Wade-Giles as “Min2-kuo2 Chi4-nien2” (not as shown on the Wikipedia page as “Min2-kuo2 Chi4-yüan2”). 173.79.189.232 (talk) 19:43, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2023

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In the “Calendar Details” section where it describes the year 2023, it says:

2023, the "112th year of the Republic" is 民國一百一十一年

I think that year actually reads 111th year, but I don’t have the Chinese keyboard installed and I’d like someone to check it before fixing. —AsterRoc (talk) 05:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It does. — LlywelynII 19:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move/Change

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Currently every year in human history since 719 BC is labeled with its "Minguo calendar" equivalent. Since that on its own is probably the most prominent use of this dating system in the English language, the page should probably be returned to Minguo calendar where it was originally. It doesn't matter if it's more "rational" to have this treatment match North Korean calendar. If the thing's WP:ENGLISH WP:COMMONNAME is the "Minguo era" or "Minguo calendar", that's where this article should be. For what it's worth, (a) the North Korean calendar got moved back to Juche calendar itself after the "discussion" above and (b) the ngram for these terms isn't terribly helpful since it shows Republican era and ROC era are far more common than Minguo or Republic of China era but includes tons of other senses of Republican for the first one and tons of discussion of China during the period 1912–1949 for the second, rather than discussion of this era/epoch/dating system.

On the other hand, if ROC calendar really is what we're going with, someone should tell the year guys to go fix their lists. — LlywelynII 19:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RfC at WPTAIWAN and WPCHINA. — LlywelynII 20:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]