Talk:Nat Hentoff

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"Idiosyncratic"?[edit]

I think referring to his various social and political positions as "idiosyncratic" is a personal opinion and not a fact. - Marauder — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.100.13 (talk) 18:22, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

It is a fact, however, that the constellation of positions he holds is a relatively rare one. Peculiar or unique to Hentoff? Perhaps not entirely, but certainly far removed from the ordinary. There aren't many Hentovians around. He wanders back and forth across the lines that separate most pundits. Agree with him or not, to call his worldview idiosyncratic or original is not to disparage it but to do it justice.Jackaroodave (talk) 01:32, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

In the context, his "idiosyncracy" seems entirely to be his general pro-life position. In any case, the statement is not referenced, and should be, or should be removed. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:19, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Pre-GA[edit]

The article still needs a fair amount of expansion for a figure of his stature. The career info is cursory and the lede doesn't fully reflect the contents of the article, as of now. The sources should also be double-checked for reliability and secondary sources used instead of primary sources for highlighting the key parts of his political commentary. I am no longer watching this page—ping if you'd like a response czar 09:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

@MBlaze Lightning czar 16:41, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, mate. I intend to work on this article next weekend when I'd have enough time. —MBlaze Lightning T 01:32, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Adityavagarwal (talk · contribs) 12:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)


Well written. Would be picking up the review, and amending straight forward changed. Feel free to revert/change any mistakes that I make while I edit the article. Face-smile.svg

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  • We need a source date for all the web citations (if possible, as all of them may not mention one).
  • Also, replace references 17, 23, and 24. They do not seem reliable.
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  • "which published his work until his death" his only one work or works?
  • "and his writing was also published in..." was it only one writing or writings?
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  • @MBlaze Lightning: Lastly, there is a slight copyvio issue. Would be great if that could be dealt with.
  • Done
It still shows with this and this. Just slight paraphrasing is required. @MBlaze Lightning: Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Done :)
It is still present with the first one (nytimes). A slight paraphrasing will do. here Adityavagarwal (talk) 18:02, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Adityavagarwal: What that tool shows as a match are names of awards, publications, and common phrases ("the son of", "was named one of", etc). Nothing to be concerned about.MBlaze Lightning T 05:28, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Yep. Although, if you check now, it is done. Face-wink.svg

The rest seems fine to me. Adityavagarwal (talk) 13:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done Great work! The prose is especially good, as there were almost no errors. It is a definite pass! Face-smile.svg Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:38, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Things missing[edit]

This article is missing some things. First, there is no description of his writing style – a major omission for a writer! Second, there's no mention of his liner notes for albums; he wrote hundreds (at least) of them. Third, there's not much on his early life and what there is leads to more questions: in what ways did Sweeney influence him? What did he study at university? And at Harvard, and did he complete his studies? And at the Sorbonne? Not mentioned: what led to his interest in jazz/music generally? Did he play? Fourth, there's no sense conveyed of what impact his writing had: he received some awards, but did any of his campaigning (on musical or non-musical matters) have any effect? What were the reactions to / comments on his writings? Filling in these gaps would create a better picture of him. EddieHugh (talk) 20:20, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

And more... the lead states that he was a historian and novelist, but the main text barely mentions anything about history, and his novels, as far as I can see, aren't mentioned in the text at all (only in a list at the end). EddieHugh (talk) 20:24, 30 December 2017 (UTC)