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990 disclosure

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The HRC is filing a complaint claiming that NOM is not releasing their most recent 990. We should keep an eye on this, not just for coverage that makes it worthy of inclusion, but because that coverage may give fresh financial stats. --Nat Gertler (talk) 18:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is now a moot point since the IRS now publishes 990 filings. A copy of NOM's most recent filing (FY 2021) can be found here. Nowa (talk) 16:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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alleged vandalism

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An editor has repeatedly tried to insert the claim that the Free Speech Bus was vandalized, using this USA Today article as source. The problem with that is, despite the headline, the article never claims in USA Today's voice that the vandalism actually took place. It says that someone claims the bus was vandalized, and specifically refers to it as "alleged vandalism". As such, the claim is not properly sourced. I am removing it again. Please do not re-add it without an appropriate reliable source being included. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:18, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That person is me and I just undid your mistake. This is how it looked like before I first made an edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Organization_for_Marriage&oldid=835151776#Free_Speech_Bus The article talked about vandalism before I even made my first edit.

You undid my edit and completely removed the part about vandalism. And you removed my source too which says that NOM worked with IOF... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enemyofjokes (talk • contribs) 22:32, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you can't figure it out, the other source, that I didn't add, talks about vandalism https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/31/an-anti-transgender-free-speech-bus-is-rolling-through-the-east-coast-sparking-protests-and-a-video-game/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c8f67feccf1f — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enemyofjokes (talk • contribs) 22:37, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If the fact that the IOF was involved was what you were trying to reference, then you put the reference near that, not several sentences later. I have moved it. --Nat Gertler (talk) 23:45, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
From WaPo, stated in their voice as fact:

"protesters vandalized the bus, spray painting it with graffiti reading “trans rights” and smashing its front window"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/31/an-anti-transgender-free-speech-bus-is-rolling-through-the-east-coast-sparking-protests-and-a-video-game/?utm_term=.1c91b8f64256

– Lionel(talk) 23:56, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2M4M section?

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What happened to the entire section on the 2M4M section, visible here, and one of the earliest pushes by this group? It was one of the first things that brought it both attention & ridicule and was widely documented. See this revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Organization_for_Marriage&oldid=283591789
It seems very odd that it's been wiped from the page, given other less significant/noted campaigns that are featured here. JamesG5 (talk) 04:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sometime around 2013, the heading was changed to "Advertising campaigns", and since then successive edits have changed some of the content. But I think much of it is still there. Search the page for "M4M". - Nunh-huh 08:06, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I need to read more carefully.  :-) JamesG5 (talk) 09:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eastman still Chairman of NOM?

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A question relevant to this page is being raised at Talk:John_Eastman#Still_chairman_of_NOM? -- I suggest we keep any discussion there rather than splitting it over two pages. -- Nat Gertler (talk) Nat Gertler (talk) 14:11, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NOW - dead?

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We need to keep an eye on anything that might be used to establish when NOW is officially dead. At the moment, their web page still bears a 2023 copyright... which is appropriate because there does not appear to be anything new on there for over a year. Their front-page campaigns are against a pair of congressional resolutions from March of 2023, against Disney's opposition to the "Don't Say Gay" legislation from 2022, and against Burger King's support of the HRC in 2021. Their blog page has zero entries, their most recent financial report on their reports page is for 2021. (Added later: The IRS has tax records through the 2022 tax year, but I assume that they should have one for 2023 by now. For the Education Fund, tax records end with the 2021 tax year.) News search for the group's name finds that the latest reference for anything being done under their name is over a year old. They've certainly become insignificant, their website moribund, but it's hard to tell when that crosses to technically non-existent and we should past-tense their descriptor. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:42, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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