Talk:Neurosis (band)

==Current status= The article still states Neurosis is currently a band. Since Scott's confession, they have made no speculations of any more material or live sets. Maybe its time we let go? At what point with no word from them (and Word is Law, get it!?!?) do we just accept they are no longer a band?

Mastodon

Mastodon should be listed as an assosciated act, since Scott Kelly sang on Crack the Skye, and Mastodon have named Neurosis as one of their main influences. 86.46.139.94 (talk) 20:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Neurosis & Jarboe

Anyone else think that these two articles should be merged into one: Neurosis & Jarboe and Neurosis & Jarboe ? Obv. I'd be in favour to keep them seperate if there was going to be more releases from this collobaration. Lugnuts 19:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Counterblast

In what way is counterblast related to Neurosis?

black ep

anyone has more info on the black ep? the year is 1986? the label??

thanx

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Can we get some references, please?

This article contains absolutely no references whatsoever, even for statements that are supposedly made by a critic (and therefore should be easily researchable). The list of bands that Neurosis supposedly influenced should have a citation for each such band where that band says exactly that--and the other list needs a citation for each entry where a member of Neurosis states that they themselves were influenced by that band. Otherwise, it's meaningless opinion and should be deleted. Without citations and references, this article isn't even remotely encyclopedic and comes across as something you might read on the band's personal website. Note that I'm not arguing that they aren't notable--I don't know either way--merely that nothing in the article that is written here PROVES that they are notable. Ig8887 (talk) 15:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

The Word as Law

Does anyone know for sure that this album was released in 1990? Some other sites say it was released in 1991, and their official site says it was 1989.Dcdm (talk) 20:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

lp released in 1990(i remember) cd w extras in 1991..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.69.68.177 (talk) 14:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Black EP

Black EP was a self-released Neurosis record in 1986. The tracks are:

1. - Progress (2.46) 2. - Faith of Fraud (2.35) 3. - Black (5.56) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.91.140.156 (talk) 21:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Page moves/Times of Grace

I have started a casual discussion about page moves and primary topics concerning Times of Grace and related articles at Talk:Times of Grace (band)#Primary topic. Input is welcome. Rehevkor ✉ 19:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

More history of the band

I would like to expand on the history of the band and create different sub-sections for each era. I will place my drafts in here before adding them to the main article. F6119474 (talk) 11:45, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The first 'history' section is the Original and the second 'history' section is the Updated version.

I'm finding it difficult to find 'new' information about the band (from any era).

If I don't get around to it and you want to post my 'update' feel free to do so.

History

In late 1985, Scott Kelly, Dave Edwardson and Jason Roeder (formerly members of Violent Coercion) founded the band as a hardcore punk outfit, borrowing from British crust punk like Amebix. In 1986 Chad Salter was added on second guitar. In 1989 Chad Salter was replaced by Steve Von Till.

It has gradually progressed through a variety of styles, arriving at a mixture of heavy metal and acoustic, minimalistic ambiance which has proved influential on the doom metal scene.

From 1990 to 1993, Adam G. Kendall was recruited to create the visuals and perform live with the band. Following his departure from touring, Pete Inc. took over the job, although Kendall continued to contribute visuals for the band until as late as 1997. Kendall also shot the footage for the "Locust Star" video. Josh Graham took over live visuals in early 2000, and is still with the band to date, having also done album artwork for 2004's The Eye of Every Storm and 2007's Given to the Rising.

Often experimental and psychedelic in nature, the visuals have added to the reputation of Neurosis' live performances. Many of the visuals for their tours supporting Through Silver in Blood can be found in Ken Russell's film Altered States. Other images are included in the enhanced portion of the Sovereign mini album, and on the A Sun That Never Sets DVD video release. The majority of the DVD release was directed by Josh Graham, with an additional video by Chad Rullman.

Additionally, the band have founded their own independent record label, Neurot Recordings, which, in addition to releasing material from Neurosis and its associated projects, has since become home to several innovative musicians.

In 2009, José Carlos Santos of Terrorizer described Neurosis as "arguably the most influential band of the past two decades."

History

Formation and early years (1985-1995)

In late 1985, Scott Kelly, Dave Edwardson and Jason Roeder (formerly members of Violent Coercion) founded the band as a hardcore punk outfit, borrowing from British crust punk like Amebix. In 1986 Chad Salter was added on second guitar. This line-up recorded Neursosis' debut album, Pain of Mind in 1987 on Alchemy Records.

In 1989 Chad Salter was replaced by Steve Von Till. This line-up released The Word as Law in 1990 on Lookout!. The Word as Law continued Neurosis' early crossover thrash style. However, this album begins to demonstrate some of the band's more experimental work. This experimentation would lead on to their eventual transformation of style in later albums.

From 1990 to 1993, Adam G. Kendall was recruited to create the visuals and perform live with the band. Following his departure from touring, Pete Inc. took over the job, although Kendall continued to contribute visuals for the band until as late as 1997.

Through Silver in Blood to Given to the Rising (1996-2007)

Neurosis gradually progressed through a variety of styles, arriving at a mixture of heavy metal and acoustic, minimalistic ambiance which has proved influential on the doom metal scene.

Often experimental and psychedelic in nature, the visuals have added to the reputation of Neurosis' live performances. Many of the visuals for their tours supporting Through Silver in Blood can be found in Ken Russell's film Altered States. Other images are included in the enhanced portion of the Sovereign mini album, and on the A Sun That Never Sets DVD video release. The majority of the DVD release was directed by Josh Graham, with an additional video by Chad Rullman. Josh Graham took over live visuals in early 2000, and is still with the band to date, having also done album artwork for 2004's The Eye of Every Storm and 2007's Given to the Rising.

Additionally, the band have founded their own independent record label, Neurot Recordings, which, in addition to releasing material from Neurosis and its associated projects, has since become home to several innovative musicians.

Recent Activity (2008-Present)

In 2009, José Carlos Santos of Terrorizer described Neurosis as "arguably the most influential band of the past two decades."

In December 2010, Scott Kelly confirmed that Neurosis are working on material for their next album.

References

Side projects

I wonder if these side projects pass notability under the WP:MUSIC criteria and need to be merged into the page. Same for the individual members. Karst (talk) 12:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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Genre change in the infobox

Regarding the infobox, shouldn't we replace doom metal and industrial by sludge metal and avant-garde metal? It's a better definition of the style of the band in my opinion, and finally, very few albums of theirs have been described as (straightforward, I suppose) doom metal and industrial. (Unsigned by IP)

Calling potentially interested editors :Mashaunix & Issan Sumisu. Your thoughts? Robvanvee 15:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree it's more accurate, and searching "Neurosis" "sludge metal" reviews 20,000 more results than "Neurosis" "--MASHAUNIX 09:49, 20 April 2020 (UTC)doom metal". Currently, they have an equal amount of sources on the page, however if more were to be added to support sludge, I'd personally says its applicable to replace doom in the infobox. Issan Sumisu (talk) 06:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Way back I had reworked the musical style section and chose the current 4 genres from among many that were in the infobox before that. My idea was to "aim for generality" as per Template:Infobox_musical_artist#genre, and so include only the broadest genres in which the band's rich style is rooted. Since sludge is defined as the fusion of doom & hardcore with elements of industrial, and all of these have also been applied to the band and their albums directly, I left it out of the infobox with a special mention in the lead. But perhaps this could be done the other way around (having sludge in the infobox and mentioning doom/hardcore/etc in the lead) if you'd prefer.--MASHAUNIX 09:49, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Few days have passed, and no one seemed to be against that change, so it has been made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.40.79.214 (talk) 10:58, 23 April 2020 (UTC)