Talk:Princess Märtha Louise of Norway

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Renouncing royal title[edit]

Why did she renounce the title? RickK 01:17 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I think it was part of a decision having to do with her establishing a commercial company. --Wernher 18:24, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

The article also suggests that she might have lost the title if she hadn't renounced it as a result of an "unequal marriage". Doesn't this appear quite arbitrary/unfair in light of her brother's marriage? It is hard to understand since her marriage seems uncontroversial compared to Haakon's. Tami 3/2/2006

  • It does appear to be a bit one sided. But her father, King Harald, married a commoner adn that caused a bit of an uproar at the time. Both of her aunts also made "unequal" marriages, and lost their title of Her Royal Highness. Can't say that it is fair, it just is. Prsgoddess187 21:36, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


The positon of The King and his marriage to a commoner'

Princess Astrid and Princess Ragnild lost thier royal highness style they were entitled by birth as norwegain princesses when they contracted unequal marriages. This was standard practise for unequal marriages that was enforced in many European Royal Houses. It was normally applied equally to male and female members.

In this case of the current King his marriage to commoner was not without opposition. But, the King vowed to rennouce his right of succession, which would have caused a consitutional crisis and threatened the continuity of the monarchy as their were other no direct hiers at time. Bearing this in mind the King's father in consultation with the government consented to the marriage. To be honest they had very litte choice.

In case of Princess Martha-Louise of Norway. She voluntary gave up her 'royal highness' to pursue her own commercial interests. It was not connected to her marriage. I think I am correct in saying place in the line of succession was not effected hence is she titled Princess Martha Louise of Norway not Princess Martha-Louise, Mrs Behn. Whether or not she would have been stripped of royal highness on marriage is a academic question this piont.

Princess Martha Louise styles abroad

Is Princess Martha Louise is entitled to style of Highness when she is aboard like her Aunts Princess Astrid and Princess Ragnild ?

I believe she is entitled to style highness abroad. Can anyone tell me why Princess Martha-Louise and her aunts only allowed to use the highness abroad. Why can't they use it while in Norway. Its seems strange to allow them to use in other countries but not in their own ???

Both Prince Sverre and Princess Märtha are entitled to use HH when abroad. Please see:

http://www.kongehuset.no/c28433/seksjonstekst_person/vis.html?tid=28780 and http://www.kongehuset.no/c27273/seksjonstekst_person/vis.html?tid=28744 Inge 13:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Husband Behn[edit]

Behn now has published another book, upping the total count to 2; hence there should be no pressing need to mention meager output in article (re earlier edit). --Wernher 18:24, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Her first name[edit]

Re: Princess Mäertha Louise of Norway (born September 22, 1971 in Oslo)

Princess Märtha Louise's first name is Märtha, not Mäertha. I've tried to rectify this several times now, but someone undoes this doing. It's a fact (check out the norwegian page) not vandalism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.58.130.195 (talk) 22:46, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

The vandalism was your insulting her. Someguy1221 22:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Style, title[edit]

Why do we use the word style to refer to her title? Why not title?--Filll 13:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Style (noun) is a synonym of "title." Why it's used here, er, I have no idea. Someguy1221 07:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Style is not a synonym of title. Style is a manner of adress (Her Highness for example), while "princess" is a title. Surtsicna (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Astarte[edit]

The new school that the princess is said to have started is supposed to teach persons how to get in touch with their "angels." Without digressing into religious arguments about this, are teachings like this allowed by Christians? No mention of her work with horses leading her to her "revelation?"

The name "Astarte" is questionable, also. Does it have American origins or influences?

Can someone expand on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.245.123.17 (talk) 11:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

As noted in this very website, Astarte is an ancient Middle Eastern godess of fertility and other things feminine. Sort of a prototype for Aphrodite, Venus et al. This might fit in the article, or maybe not. Cranston Lamont 19:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

As probably noted about everywhere, Astarte is supposed to teach someone to get in touch with his "angels," which infers Christianity. That's not American, true, but it's also not Christian. This princess has said to have been widely criticized for starting this school, maybe the name itself is part of the problem. Instead of finding your angels, you might find Bacchus or something. Heaven forbid! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.244.160.175 (talk) 04:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Highness[edit]

The princess is specificaly not entitled to use "Her Highness" in Norway. As a courtesy it is allowed that she use "Her Highness" outside of Norway and that has been added to the Norwegian Royal Court's website as an extra courtesy to her, to avoid confusion since she in fact does use it abroad. I just spoke to the Royal Palace in Oslo, however, and it was confirmed to me again, in English this time, that it is not correct to write to her as "Her Highness". Anyone can phone there and find that out. It has been published many times that "Her Highness" is something the strong willed princess uses on her own, without any official sanction. SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

The official website calls her "Her Highness Princess Märtha Louise".[1] I am not a blind follower of official websites but the matter seems rather clear this time. If she is only allowed to use it outside Norway, then the guest list in the Wedding of Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden, and Daniel Westling article should include it, shouldn't it? Surtsicna (talk) 10:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
If it is not correct to write to her as a highness then I feel it is not correct to write about her as one. But that's just one man's oponion. SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
That makes sense. If it only weren't this complicated. Surtsicna (talk) 13:26, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
The princess has the style of Highness as a male-line descendant of Christian IX of Denmark, as a princess of Denmark although that title is never used. Seven Letters 16:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

new image

I replaced the 2007 photograph with the 2010 photograph. I hope that her missing hand is not a problem. I wonder who she is waving to. The *angels*, perhaps? Surtsicna (talk) 16:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Pages for her children?[edit]

I created pages for her three children, but they have been deleted. Maybe an expert could recreate them? It would be nice if her children could have pages.

Why should there be articles about her daughters? They are not notable. They are 8/6/4-year-olds who go to school or nursery and who have a very remote possibility of succeeding to a throne. Nothing else was said about them in those articles anyway and I doubt anything more could be said. Surtsicna (talk) 21:58, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Princess Märtha Louise no longer has the title Her Royal Highness, only Her Highness and she and her family is not officially considered to be part of the royal family. Her children have no titles at all and are totally private citizens so I think they are very far from being notable for Wikipedia. But a nice thought. Sorry you did the work in vain. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 23:31, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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