Talk:Shuji Nakamura

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Ethnicity in the lead[edit]

Please do not include the subject's individual in the lead per WP:OPENPARA which reads:

Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.

As such, I have removed the ethnicity in the lead. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

As he is an American citizen and Japan does not permit dual citizenship, that would be partly correct. However, he was just a Japanese citizen for most of his professional career, and I think that should be noted in the lede. "Japanese-born" would suffice? --81.157.182.62 (talk) 09:27, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
I think "Japanese-born American" is reasonable. Nakamura did obtain his most significant results in Japan, and his emigration from Japan (and the motivating reasons) was newsworthy when it occurred. — Myasuda (talk) 13:29, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
I think that should be in the body of the article, as long as we can site it per WP:BLP. However, per WP:OPENPARA, unless the subject's ethnicity is directly related to their notability, it shouldn't be in the opening paragraph of the lead section. From most of the news articles that I have read about the awarding of the Nobel Prize awarding it normally states 2 Japanese and a American, or something similar to that wording (New York Times, Phys.org, CNBC, France 24). The most significant source that specifically highlights the subject's ethnicity is HuffPo. Given that most articles don't highlight the subject's ethnicity, neither should Wikipedia. As keeping with MOS, we should include it in the body of the article, but not the lead.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 04:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
"Given that most articles don't highlight the subject's ethnicity..." is not correct. See the following news articles: (emphasis added)
  • Huffington Post Nakamura, 60, a Japanese-American, is a professor in the College of Engineering at the University of California, Santa Barbara.[1]
  • Reuters Isamu Akasaki and Hiroshi Amano of Japan and Japanese-born U.S. citizen Shuji Nakamura won the prize for developing ... [2]
  • VOA News Two Japanese scientists and a Japanese-born American scientist have been awarded the 2014 Nobel Prize for Physics for inventing ...[3]
  • AP An invention that promises to revolutionize the way the world lights its homes and offices ... earned a Nobel Prize on Tuesday for two Japanese scientists and a Japanese-born American. [4]
Please note that his accomplishment has nothing to do with his current nationality. His most of the work was done when he was Japanese. So it is relevant to the subject's notability.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 05:33, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Difference of opinion. I am not arguing, nor is anyone, arguing that the individual isn't Japanese ethnically, however it has nothing to do with his notability. The subject is notable for being a Nobel Prize recipient, which is not impacted by the subject's ethnicity. The subject was not the first Japanese American recipient of a Nobel Prize (or at least what I could find). Therefore, the subject's ethnicity should be included in the body, instead of the lead per WP:OPENPARA. And to say that the subject is a Japanese-born American is not the same as saying that the subject is a Japanese American. For instance John McCain is a Panamanian-born American, the statement is not false, but that doesn't make him a Panamanian American. In this case the subject is Japanese American Issei, however that does not play into the subject's notability here.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:06, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
I am not talking about his ethnicity. His ethnicity may not notable but his tie with Japan is notable because he was born in Japan, raised in Japan, educated in Japan, employed in Japan and finally he made the notable achievement in Japan. Please carefully read WP:OPENPARA. It says "if notable mainly for past events, (The opening paragraph should have) the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable". (parentheses added) I understand the receipt of the Nobel prize is a notable current event. However his invention of blue light-emitting diodes is the most notable past event. So inclusion of his former nationality is legitimate per the guideline. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 21:39, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
As a compromise, the lead could include that the subject worked on the blue LED while in Japan, however per OPENPARA, the subject's nationality, as the subject does not have dual citizenship, should not be listed as Japanese. Thus something like:

{{Shuji Nakamura (中村 修二 Nakamura Shūji?, born May 22, 1954) is a American professor at the Materials Department of the College of Engineering, University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB),[3] and is regarded as the inventor of the blue LED, a major breakthrough in lighting technology.[4] While in Japan, while still a Japanese citizen,(insert reference here) together with Isamu Akasaki and Hiroshi Amano, he was one of the three recipients of the 2014 Nobel Prize for Physics "for the invention of efficient blue light-emitting diodes, which has enabled bright and energy-saving white light sources".}}

Emphasis added for compromise addition
The subject is Japanese American, but since the subject's ethnicity isn't important to the subject's notability, it should be included in the body and not the lead.
Are we seriously disputing that the subject's nationality is American?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Are you serious? Such wordy expression is unnecessary. Just Japanese-American is enough.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Subject is not Japanese & American nationality wise. Subject is a Japanese American, however the subject's ethnicity is not important to the subject's notability. As noted in the info box, the subject was a Japanese citizen, the subject is is now an American citizen. The fact that the subject was born in Japan has no relevance to the subject's notability. Where the subject invented the blue LED has no relevance to the subject's notability. Thus, the subject's ethnicity should be excluded from the lead per MOS. Include it in the body of the article, but it shouldn't be in the opening paragraph. This is why many reliable sources say the subject is a "Japanese-born American", or is just an "American", and no reliable sources say that the subject is a "Japanese American Nobel laureate". For instance Al Jazeera, a reliable source neither in the U.S. or Japan writes:

Isamu Akasaki and Hiroshi Amano of Japan and US scientist Shuji Nakamura were announced as the winners on Tuesday by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

. Deutsche Welle writes:

On Tuesday, the Royal Swedish Academy awarded the 2014 Nobel Prize in physics to Isamu Akasaki and Hiroshi Amano of Japan and Shuji Nakamura of the United States.

I don't see the need to highlight that the subject was of Japanese citizenship during the time at which the invention occurred in the lead, and even if I did, it's not following MOS or relevant to the subject's notability.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
(Personal attack removed) Just kidding - but can we like, prove his notability was not established while he was a sole Japanese citizen? If he hadn't co-invented the blue LED, would he even have an article here at all? --86.190.145.114 (talk) 20:50, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Can't verify a negative, see Proving a negative.
The question before us is MOS, per MOS as the subject was not a Japanese citizen at the time of the Nobel Prize awarding, as the subject's ethnicity is not central in the subject's notability, the subjects ethnicity nor former citizenship should not be in the lead. Not that it shouldn't be elsewhere in the article, just that it shouldn't be in the lead paragraph.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:47, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Description as "American"[edit]

I would like to know the reasoning behind describing him solely as an American and not Japanese. He spent most of his career in Japan, and as far as I know he never relinquished his Japanese citizenship. I could not find any sources to back that claim. Without any indication to the contrary, we should apply Occam's razor and describe him in the lead-in as Japanese. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 02:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

See Multiple citizenship. Japan does not recognize dual nationality. (Automatic loss of citizenship if another citizenship is acquired voluntarily)--221.139.109.113 (talk) 05:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Nakamura's Amazing Discovery[edit]

Diode Diode, burning bright, On the breadboard in the night; What immortal hand or eye, Could frame thy quantum supersymmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies Burnt the fire within Nakamura's eyes? On what wings dare he aspire? What the hand, dare seize the fire? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.167.55 (talk) 20:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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