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Age/Year of birth

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@NegativeMP1, if we don’t have a source that confirms a year of birth, would it be worth using something like {{Age as of date|30|2024|January|7}}, without mentioning a definite year of birth? (I’ll have to check the MOS to see if there’s a guideline on how best to state that someone was born in one of two possible years.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 18:09, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, we can have a source that states a year of birth. The Forbes profile source states that they are 30, so that means it was at least 1994. However, some Google searches state that they were born in 1993, so on January 17th I'll check the Forbes profile to see if they're still listed as 30 or if they become 31. λ NegativeMP1 18:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Re your edit summary, it's my understanding that the Twitter post by the subject can be used as a source for their DOB, per WP:ABOUTSELF & the last sentence/paragraph of WP:DOB. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 18:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Temporarily (ie before we get a chance to see if the Forbes profile updates on Jan 17th), I'm going to update the article to list the year of birth as 1993 - as we have sources for a day (Jan 17) and a current age (30), which in combination would necessarily imply a birth year of 1993. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 18:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've also just found this tweet by them, which confirms they were 27 in June 2020; supporting them being 30 now and their year of birth being 1993. (I haven't added this to the article, but feel free to do so if you believe it would be helpful to include as a source there in addition to the others - I'm on the fence.) Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 19:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DirtyHarry991 talk 07:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created by NegativeMP1 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/SkyDoesMinecraft; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good work, NegativeMP1. For ALT0, I'd remove the link to YouTuber per both MOS:SOB and MOS:OL. I also added a citation right at the end of the sentence, as DYKCRIT requires. QueenofHearts 04:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Is there a box we could add to "personal life" like Template:External video but for Elizabeth's iCloud doc? NotAGenious (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That link absolutely should not be in the article. It is a self-published document containing multiple accusations of felony misconduct, none of which have been vetted by any reliable sources. (The most we have is Insider second-hand-quoting Dahlberg, speaking to Drama Alert, that there's "a mix" of true and false in it.) It would be an egregious WP:BLP violation (much like a lot of the content formerly in this article) to link to it from the article. In particular, WP:BLPEL squarely applies.
More broadly, @NegativeMP1, as someone who also likes writing about neglected pop-culture topics, I appreciate your work in this area, but please be more careful about BLPs. You cannot include negative statements sourced only to primary sources. When secondary sources have reported on those statements, it may be acceptable to broadly summarize them (as the article does now), but this past version is, frankly, horrific. You cited two versions of the same article from a fairly low-tier source to, among other things, assert as fact that Dahlberg was placed under protective custody when, according to that source, the police only said that someone was put under custody, not who. These are the sorts of small details that are critically important to get right on the first try. Even when sources check out, it's very important to not give undue weight to controversies in a living person's life. Please be more careful in the future. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 18:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article was my first time writing a BLP and I tried to the best of my ability to fit in with those guidelines. I greatly appreciate your advice and, if I ever write another BLP in the future, I'll attempt to write one with better verification and due weight. λ NegativeMP1 23:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]