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Photos

Can we have some copyright tags on those (very nice) photos please, jguk? Thanks. Loganberry (Talk) 03:07, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've got some nice panoramic photos which might look good on this page. I'm more than happy to share them if someone explains to me what changes I need to make to their copyright. Thanks. mcgillianaire —Preceding undated comment added 20:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OCS Stand Photo's

Three photo's of the OCS stand? Can someone pick out the best one, and remove the others. --Commander Keane 14:01, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Old Lady

I've been following Surrey cricket for the best part of 50 years, and I don't ever recall The Oval being called that. JH 09:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just did a Google search on 'Oval "Grand Old Lady"'. It revealed that ovals all over the world have been referred to as a "Grand Old Lady" at one time or another. So it doesn't seem to be an appellation specific to "our" Oval. JH 17:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saee that the "Grand Old Lady" claim is back. I've stuck a "citation needed" against it. JH (talk page) 16:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The citation needed tag has been there for over a year and no reference is forthcoming. I have removed the statement untilsuch a time when someone can provide a reliable source for this nickname. --Greatestrowerever (talk) 13:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Undress

Is it true that the Kennington Oval holds the record for the most people running onto the grass in a stae of undress?

I hadn't heard of this. It sounds rather unlikely to me. JH 09:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oval cat???

Didn't the Oval have a cat once upon a time called Lulu (I think that was her name)? I saw her once during the 1999 Cricket World Cup in England (she was black and white in colour). I searched for her on the web but couldn't find any info. If it wasn't her, then which was the ground that housed a cat as well once upon a time?

Lord's had a famous cat about forty years ago: Peter Cat. I don't recall hearing of one at The Oval. JH (talk page) 17:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pavilions

Is there a link to the layout of the ground - pavilions etc? Also: I removed a number of AOL links which seem to be dead. 88888 15:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find a plan of the ground anywhere online, which is a pity. However there are two good photographs of the Pavilion here and here. One or other of them might be worth linking to. JH (talk page) 18:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found this [1] - but the resolution is too low to read some parts 88888 23:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found this [2] not strictly speaking a plan - but stands are marked. Nothing else is mind ... Ei2g 08:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's very useful. I'll add it to the "Exrenal links" section. JH (talk page) 09:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby

England also used to play rugby games at the Oval, there should be a mention of this.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You obviously know more about that than I do, so please go ahead. :) JH (talk page) 19:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7 games played at the oval. See scrum.com statistics http://www.scrum.com/statsguru/rugby/team/1.html?class=1;ground=2;template=results;type=team;view=results 86.146.63.82 (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Football section -- lots of irrelevancy

Hi,

I don't want to make this change myself since ppl might not like it but why oh why does the association football section go on about matches not played at the oval; England matches in Scotland from the same period?

What is needed is a list of England matches played at the Oval and nothing more.

If you disagree, please say here, thx. 86.146.63.82 (talk) 21:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the table should list only the matches played at The Oval. My guess is that the table was lifted from some article on the early history of England v Scotland international matches. JH (talk page) 08:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

London wiki

There is a 'wanted page' request for The Oval on the above wiki - www.london.wikia.com - would someone oblige? Jackiespeel (talk) 23:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OCS

Can someone provide an explanation and citation for the name "OCS stand"? SovalValtos (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a very good question. I've just done a web search and, though there are dozens of references to it, none of them seems to say what the initials stand for. I've always assumed that it was named through some sponsorship deal, but surely a sponsor wouldn't want their name never to be given in full? I'm starting to wonder if the initials were just an identifier used during the design and construction, which stuck subsequently. If so, OCS could just be "Oval Cricket Stand"! (And the term OCS Stand would be a tautology like PIN number.) But that's all pure speculation, of course. JH (talk page) 20:55, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More speculation; Overseas Cricket Supporters ? SovalValtos (talk) 08:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Or possibly Oval Corporate Stand, given that the upper tiers are where the corporate hospitality boxes are located? JH (talk page) 08:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've managed to track it down. OCS is a company (full name "OCS International Facilities Management Services") that sponsors the stand. See here and click on the OCS link on that page to be taken here. JH (talk page) 09:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is an even fuller name "Outsourced Client Solutions International Facilities Management Services". SovalValtos (talk) 10:35, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

However, even OCS on their own website refer to it as the OCS stand - amended accordingly Matruman (talk) 13:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zeppelin

What evidence is there of either a Zeppelin or a hot-air balloon being used? A blimp maybe.SovalValtos (talk) 17:50, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall hearing of either a Zeppelin or a hot air balloon. In recent years there has been a tethered blimp that has been sponsored by various companies, which goes round the Test grounds to provide Sky TV with pictures from the air. (It's also used by various broadcasters at other major sporting events.) JH (talk page) 19:46, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am removing the un-cited wordingSovalValtos (talk) 16:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

21st century redevelopment

This section may be out of date and with link rot SovalValtos (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well out of date - the Surrey Tavern was demolished in 2008, apparently; the pavilion has had a new front put on it; and the plan for a hotel in the redevelopment of the Laker etc stands has been dropped in favour of more office space and facilities, work due to start at the end of this season. I'll try and track down the relevant links and make amendments. Matruman (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 01 August 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: procedurally closed, I've restored the status quo. I'm closing this particular discussion because they tend to become a bit of a mess if left open once the move being proposed has been actioned. However, anyone who supports the title being at "The Oval (cricket ground)" (or some other variation) is welcome to start a new RM as soon as they wish. In particular CDRL102 might want to exercise this option. Jenks24 (talk) 06:38, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Oval (cricket ground) → The Oval – The cricket ground is the primary topic for "The Oval". At most, there should be a move discussion before this is moved again. – Niceguyedc ^{Go Huskies!} 00:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). CDRL102 (talk) 16:50, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I feel the page The Oval should be left as a disambiguation which links to Oval (disambiguation). Due to the amount of other The Oval named grounds, as well as the fact the Cricket Ground Oval is now known as the Kia Oval, The Oval (cricket ground) should be the page for the Oval Cricket Ground. CDRL102 (talk) 16:50, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"The Kia Oval" is currently the "official" name - at least until the next change in sponsor. But the fact remains that almost everyone still calls it "The Oval". I agree that the ground is the primary topic for "The Oval". No other "The Oval" is as well-known as the cricket ground in Kennington. It would have been good had such a major change been discussed on the Cricket WikiProject's Talk page first. JH (talk page) 21:10, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then again there's people like myself who know of the other Ovals but I didn't know of the Cricket Ground, so I think the page The Oval should be left to disambig and have the brackets for all the Ovals to tell us what each is. CDRL102 (talk) 21:30, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I initially thought today's move from The Oval (cricket ground) to The Oval was a WP:BOLD move submitted via a technical request. Now I see that it was a revert of a previous BOLD move of 15:36, 28 June 2015‎ (UTC) by Macaronlover. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:28, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I have redirected The Oval back to The Oval (cricket ground). Anthony Appleyard reverted this move last night, but I see that someone got Philg88 to move it again this morning. If this move discussion fails, then The Oval can be redirected back to Oval (disambiguation), and the 1734 incoming links to The Oval (which at a quick glance, at least 98% are meant for the cricket ground) can be dealt with then. CRDL102, please do not change the target for The Oval until consensus is determined here.-Niceguyedc ^{Go Huskies!} 21:21, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In view of all the shenanigans that have been going on, the first thing to do is move the article back to its original title, The Oval, and then determine by proper discussion and consensus what the future title should be. The topic should certainly be raised at at WT:CRIC as the majority of interested parties are members of that project, so I am posting a notice there to invite them to give their views. The people who have been making arbitrary changes to the title have not been WP:BOLD, they have been bang out of order. Jack | ^{talk page} 06:15, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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