Talk:Ty Cobb

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Former good article Ty Cobb was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Wording may need work[edit]

" Reported victims of his sudden uncontrollable rages through the years included a black groundskeeper who attempted to shake Cobb's hand, along with his wife, though this story (see above) is now considered dubious at best ... "

Shouldn't that read "attempted to shake Cobb's hand, along with his wife's ..."? If he'd really shaken the lady, I could see why Cobb got upset. Or maybe the offense was for the man to approach Cobb in the presence of his wife. Whatever. WHPratt (talk) 15:18, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

So it was the other guy's wife who got attacked? Yet another interpretation. I think I was justified in asking for clarification! WHPratt (talk) 16:00, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

A new bio with a different look at Cobb[edit]

Charles Leerhsen’s new biography, Ty Cobb: A Terrible Beauty is a book that repudiates much of what is in our article. It is largely intended to rehabilitate its subject’s reputation. I have only just heard about the book on the radio w/a discussion with the author. WE (Wikipedia Editors) may need to do a rewrite soon. Buster Seven Talk 07:10, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

  • You're right - a rewrite is needed to extract the silly pro-Cobb slant this article has adopted and dump it in the trash heap where it belongs. I'll perform it soon. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 07:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Questionable source for reports of Bigotry[edit]

I'm changing the start to the second paragraph in the Reported Violence and Bigotry section. Currently it reads:

"While, "[s]tories of Cobb's racial intolerance were well documented", during his playing days, after Cobb left the game he appeared to have a change of heart regarding race.[19]"

However the source provides two examples, one of this (attacking a black laborer) is not in anyway confirmed to be racially motivated and the second (attacking a black grounds keeper and his wife) is an incident this wiki entry already describes as "now considered dubious at best". RedRamage (talk) 13:22, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Ty Cobb sliding2-edit1.jpg to appear as POTD soon[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Ty Cobb sliding2-edit1.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on July 17, 2016. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2016-07-17. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:47, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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Ty Cobb

Ty Cobb (1886–1961), shown here sliding into third base on August 16, 1924, was an American Major League Baseball (MLB) outfielder. He spent twenty-two seasons with the Detroit Tigers, including six as the team's player-manager, and finished his career with the Philadelphia Athletics. During this time Cobb set ninety MLB records, though his abilities were sometimes overshadowed by his surly temperament and aggressive playing style. In 1936 Cobb was made an inaugural member of the Baseball Hall of Fame, and in 1999 editors at the Sporting News ranked him third on their list of "Baseball's 100 Greatest Players".

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Time for a rewrite[edit]

This article has metamorphosed into a goofy, lickspittle apologia for Cobb, filled with unfounded personal attacks on his previous biographers and loaded with dubious praise sung by revisionists with obvious and severe bias, including a hagiography by a member of Cobb's family. Look forward to a return to objectivity in this article in the near future. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 07:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

"goofy, lickspittle apologia for Cobb" You are obviously not the one to objectively do this.Hilltrot (talk) 21:06, 2 June 2017 (UTC)