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Rummaging through the forum of the "DiY Cintiq" people, you can find that Intuos and Graphire tablet works with a frequency between 665 and 670 khz (joke on them being "built by te devil"); Actual working frequencies seems depending from a lot of "external" factors, such as avoiding interferencies between the tablet and the screens in the CIntiqs based on the various Intuoses. The 531 khz is not a mandatory requirement... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 14:25, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
I added that Wacoms have superior, high, predictable sampling rate with x and y almost simultaneously so they can ALSO be used to record handwriting and drawing movements. Neuroscript (talk) 06:18, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
This article sounds much like an advertisement. "creating a long and virtually maintenance free lifespan.", etc. 184.108.40.206 10:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I see that someone changed "virtually" to "essentially" but this section is still at odds with the Criticism section which describes the unusually rapid wearing of the nib and drawing surface. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
--- This article could use some information on how the tablets work
- I agree - it would be very interesting to know how the tablet can get such accurate positional information, as well as analog pressure readings and button presses from an independent (wireless) pen. Kjl 21:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Its difficult to put too much detail about the technology since it is copy righted. If you ask specific questions, I can try and answer them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no batteries or cords are required. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen that will run down and need to be replaced, creating a long and virtually maintenance free lifespan.
Under the tablet’s surface (or LCD in the case of the Cintiq) is a grid of wires that transmits a send and receive signal. In send mode, the tablet’s electromagnetic signal stimulates oscillation in the pen’s coil-and-capacitor circuit. In receive mode, the energy of the resonant circuit’s oscillations in the pen is detected by the tablet’s grid. This information is then analyzed by the computer to determine the pen’s position. In addition, the pen communicates other vital information, such as pressure-sensitivity, side-switch status, tip or eraser orientation and Tool ID. For example, applying more or less pressure to the tip of the pen changes the value of the pen’s timing circuit capacitor. This signal change is communicated to a modulator which distributes the information digitally to the tablet. The tablet forwards this and other relevant information (pen position, side-switch status, Tool ID, etc.) in packets, up to 200 times per second, to the computer.
- Heh, can you (or somebody else) add this nice explanation to the article itself? I don't know enough about the subject to add it with any degree of confidence myself. It's a shame for this info to be hiding on the discussion page... Kjl 21:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Any reason why its particularly popular on the Mac? --Rilstix 06:51, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
- Simply because so many graphic designers use the Mac. Wacom tablets are designed for graphic artists, the majority of graphic artists use Macs, ergo Wacom tablets are going to get used with Macs quite a bit. --TangentIdea 04:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
How do you pronounce Wacom?
Anyone have any ideas?
Rossr 21:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Wacom is pronounced "wah come" and is derived from the Japanese symbol for harmony ("wah") and the first syllable of computer ("come"). The tag line of the company is, "Toward the harmonious development between man and technology." --- I've read a few forums that say Wacom was founded by Sun Myung Moon (Moonies). How can we verify that?
- Well, we can see the pronunciation if we look at how it is spelt in Japanese: ワコム. ワ is wa, similar to the way an American might pronounce "water". コ is ko, pronounced more or less as in copper in standard English. ム is mu, pronounced more or less like the sound cows make. This gives up wakomu.
- The u on the end of a Japanese word tends to be whispered or made silent, so this gives us wakom'. "Wacom" is a Westernised spelling of this, especially since the last two syllables are no doubt inspired by the English word "computer". It is not entirely clear what the wa is supposed to signify, as it is written in katakana instead of kanji.
- Unlike English, Japanese words are not stressed on any particular syllable, so what you are trying to express with the capital letters is not relevant to Japanese. For example, some English speakers say HiROshima and others say HiroSHIma, but the Japanese utter a level HIROSHIMA. — Chameleon 07:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- The article did in fact specify how Wacom is pronounced at one time, but the text was deleted at some point. I rang the local Wacom office to ask how they pronounced it, and what they said was mostly consistent with Chameleon's comments. The "wa" part is close to bar/baa/palm (without any R or L sounds), not to way or war. -- Paddles TC 14:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- A note on the pronunciation in the above video link: the man stresses the first syllable: WAH-come. Also, it should be noted that the 'k' sound is pronounced only lightly. As for rhymes, try a conversation between grocery clerks: "Should I refill the shelves?" "Yes, go ahead and stock 'em." Begeun (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- How come after this information the article still states that it is pronounced with a short a... ? A short a is found in words like; cat and trap - which would make the pronunciation Whack-om... The proper pronunciation (as defined by Chameleon et al) should be an open 'a' (IPA: a) to be pronounced as in car.
- It's silly.. also, for a laymans explanation - "Wacom to rhyme with car-bomb" ??? 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wish they had instructed correctly the voice artist that did the recordings that came in the install CD in Brazilian Portuguese; she messed it up quite bad :( --TiagoTiago (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Saw it on their website, they're calling it the "Bamboo", it's going to be released sometime this month. D-hyo 14:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Links to the general catagory?
There should be a link to the drawing/sketching/graphing pads/tablets article, if it exists. A list of all the manufacturers of graph pads like this would be useful on that article, again assuming it exists.
BTW: I remember Koala Pads and (amazing at the time) color Imagewriters being popular. I used to have my own little collection of ribbons and carbonless, continous-feed paper. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 04:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Info about Linux drivers would be useful to me. — Chameleon 03:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think linux OS supports the drivers for all of them. Tedmund (talk) 22:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I actually go the chance to test my cintiq with Ubuntu 8.04 and PCLinux. I had some problems with Ubuntu but I eventually managed getting it to work with some other tablet drivers. PCLinux wasen't a problem. Tedmund (talk) 19:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- A short blurb about the Linux Wacom project (http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/) would probably suffice for explaining quasi-crossplatform support. Silver Streak (talk) 15:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
We don't need a citation on that driver + linux + wacom employee line! Just check the project webpage for the current maintainer and lookup his email adress which ends with "@wacom.com". --188.8.131.52 (talk) 17:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
It is appropriate to refer to complaints about the company's products if they are significant and reported in independent news media (rather than blogs and forum postings); that's a requirement of WP's Reliable sources policy. This is not a place for frustrated users to document their problems, as that would be original research. - Jason A. Quest (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
But for some of the criticisms, Wacom itself has agreed that these problem descriptions are factual and that Wacom is looking for solutions but has not yet found any. In that sense, it would be silly to call the criticisms "unreliable" and reject them because complaints (and Wacom admissions) appear only on forums. Donlibes (talk) 14:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
User:184.108.40.206 removed the entire criticism section. Most of that section was poorly cited, but I believe the statement regarding nib wear was well-cited as the reference to the wacom support forums includes wacom representatives acknowledging the problem, so I have reintroduced that part. Jordan Bettis (talk) 20:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The Bamboo section of this article is rather confusing to say the least. I have reworded it a bit to clear some of it up, but have come to a stumbling block. One sentence read as:
"There are three models — Bamboo Create, Bamboo Capture, and Bamboo Connect — all of which (except Bamboo Connect) now have multitouch functionality, with support for one- and two-finger gestures for such operations as scrolling and zooming."
This in itself seem is confusing (why say "all except Connect" when only three are listed?), but is made worse by the fact that there are other Bamboo models listed later on: the One, the Pen and the Touch. Is this meaning that the other models are no longer produced? If that is the case, this should be made clear. If it is supposed to mean something else, then it likely needs a complete re-wording/restructuring.
I have checked on Wacom's American site and they only list the Create, Capture and Connect tablets as being available (), which supports my "currently available" hypothesis; however, they do also mention the Bamboo Pen (an iPad stylus) and the Bamboo Paper iPad App. I was unable to check the EU site though; it appears to be down at the moment.
- Well, the Euro site is now working, and it seems those names only apply to the Americas. I'll go ahead and update the article to reflect this. Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 14:38, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
There is at least one other Bamboo Fun model -- CTH-661 ("CTH-661/S/(A)") above barcode (bought in Australia with Corel Painter Essentials 4 and Photoshop Elements as the pack-ins). 220.127.116.11 (talk) 09:30, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
"How-To" section in Durability?
- Several Wacom models, including the Intuos4 and Bamboo, have been criticized for the drawing surface's roughness, which rapidly wears down nibs and can result in uneven wear patterns, leaving slick and non-slick areas. Fortunately, being made of nothing more than plastic, nibs can be replaced by a short length of nylon 'wire' (approx 0.065 inches or 1.7mm diameter) like that found in grass trimmer or 'weed-eater' refills, suitably straightened out by hand and smoothed (rounded off) at one end with abrasive paper. Additionally, a shallow glass can be used as a cover over the drawing surface, though it may induce a - usually modest - parallax error when tracing.
While I agree that the first sentence belongs somewhere in the article (though I'd like to see sources other than forum posts), the rest of the paragraph sounds like a camouflaged How-To section. I have serious doubts that use of weed-whacker wire is either sanctioned by Wacom or is widely practiced within the user community. Wacom sells replacement nibs, and for the Intuos4 at least, replacement tablet surfaces.
"Possible Radiation" section seems dubious
Is there actually any real research or news reports about this? All the references in the section seem to be forum/blog posts asking if it is a problem rather than containing any evidence of measurable adverse effects.
The concerns about 2.4 GHz signals used by the wireless accessory also seems to be unsubstantiated. When you have laptops, smartphones, cordless keyboards, mice and phones, etc all transmitting on that frequency band, is there any reason to believe Wacom's products are going to produce a noticeable increase in exposure? --18.104.22.168 (talk) 04:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that this whole section is pretty sketchy. Since it seems sourced entirely by forum discussions, I'm inclined to just remove it. JeffJonez (talk) 06:59, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I realize that the original sources don't provide detailed discussion of what "market share" means either, but as it stands the information is really unhelpful. What's the market? Is this by shipments, value, or some other metric?