Talk:William Wordsworth

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Grammar[edit]

Requesting Grammatical cleanup. Very stilted. --ISpyFace 09:55, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

==Editing== what was his poems This article needs expansion and editing. I've started the work, but I'm an expert on Russian poety, not English... Foremost, it needs a TOC at the head. Also, popular reception of W -- initially very negative, but by the end of his life he'd become a celebrity (tour groups, even!). (Unsigned comment by User:Michaeladenner on 8 December 2005)

Off Topic[edit]

Could someone please recommend me a complete edition of Wordsworth's works? I know a hardcover one, apparently from Oxford, in eight volumes, but I'm looking for a cheaper and perhaps with more recent editing. If someone knows of other good editions of the rest of the romantics, I'd also like to know. Thanks. 200.141.237.165 15:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Just a reminder: "please keep discussions on talk pages on the topic of how to improve the associated article." Someone might be able to answer your questions at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. --Mrwojo 01:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Influences[edit]

I have added Charlotte Smith to the list of influences. Female sonneteers had been reintroducing the sonnet, an unpopular form in the C18th, prior to Wordsworth's own appropriation of the mode. Smith was one with whom he was directly acquainted (according to 'Romantic Literature', Jennifer Breen and Mary Noble, p. 80).74.66.231.211 (talk) 23:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


Redirect[edit]

Just a note that searching for "Wordsworth" gives you Wordsworth and makes you redirect to William Wordsworth. I'm too much of a newbie to know whether this ought to be changed, but it seems a little ridiculous. --Toastedcheese 23:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I have fixed the problem regarding the redirect of the Wordsworth page to William Wordsworth.. Now if you type Wordsworth, it will redirect to William Wordsworth.. I have also added a disambiguation page for the other uses of wordsworth --Rev.bayes 18:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Cultural depictions of William Wordsworth[edit]

I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 16:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Criticisms[edit]

I don't have enough knowledge on Wikipedia to enter this, but perhaps someone could revamp this page to include many of the literary criticisms aimed at his work from both scholars and students alike. Thanks, Andrew Lawton andrew.lawton@hotmail.com

Sure, I have a Wordsworth criticisms book, I'll whizz some off in a new section --PorgeHR (talk) 00:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Lucy Poems[edit]

The 'Lucy' Poems were performed as a song by The Divine Comedy (band), should this be added to the article? It is such a beautiful way of representing the poetry of Wordsworth maybe it is worthy of inclusion? ny156uk 21:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Anosmic[edit]

Apparently he had no sense of smell. - Kittybrewster 23:07, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

This is true, is it mentioned in the article? If not, add it where appropriate --PorgeHR (talk) 00:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

I've briefly semiprotected the page to deal with vandalism - there was a lot of stuff not getting properly caught, and this should hopefully calm it down for a bit. Shimgray | talk | 17:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Birthplace[edit]

Where was he born? His key facts say he was born in Cockermouth but the text says he was born in Cumberland BRAD 18:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Cockermouth is in Cumbria, then called Cumberland. (I learned these facts from Wikipedia.)

Vandalism[edit]

Hello. I was searching "wordsworth early poetry" and the text that shows up on Google refers to WW's masterpiece "The Penis." wow I have no idea how to fix this but wanted to alert someone. Thanks. 69.247.137.50 18:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)Jeannie


so... i have a question... was wonderwoman really Wordsworth's daughter-in-law?? cause the text shows her as being the fourth wife of Wordsworth's son, John Wordsworth... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.244.142.45 (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Birthplace[edit]

i dont think he actually was born in cockermouth, he moved there later. For some reason i think he may have been born in lorton or somewhere similar, although im not sure...not really any help there sorry

Oxford Dictionary of National Biog says Cockermouth. And, in reply to BRAD above, Cockermouth is in Cumberland (now in Cumbria). PamD 07:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

Additionally, I'm betting that "Nutting in Ambers Mouth" is not in fact one of Wordsworth's classic poems. I'm going to delete it if I can figure it out. I think he did have a poem called "Nutting" so I'll try to fix that. 20 May 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.198.126.75 (talkcontribs).

He was also NOT born in Cockinurmouth now, was he.

"I wondered lonely as a cow"[edit]

Should someone remove that "cow" piece of trivia? It reeks of urban legend, and seems to be untterly implausible when you consider how the image of the cloud is central to the poem - as it's unsourced it seems like it should go.

82.21.73.241 01:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey everyone! I just deleted a phrase on here that said "Worsworth is a mother fucking bitch" or something like that. Would the person who keeps vandalizing this page stop corrupting Wikipedia! Thankyou! :-)

Date of death of son John[edit]

William's son John is listed as dieing in 2009 and then later as 2005. Is the date supposed to be 2005? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metta2u (talkcontribs) 21:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Wordsworth's son died almost 200 years ago, ergo it's an error --PorgeHR (talk) 01:00, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

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First poetry[edit]

Okay, which is it? The end of the "Early life" section says 1787 (sonnet in The European Magazine), two sections later a section titled "First publication and Lyrical Ballads" says "1783 saw Wordsworth's first published poetry".

They can't both be right, unless you define poetry in a way that excludes sonnets.Vanhorn (talk) 11:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Early life[edit]

Why is there NOTHING on his early life? Has something been deleted by accident (or vandalism)? There's no mention of e.g. which university he went to, which would have been a crucial element of his upbringing and education, as Oxford and Cambridge were seen as infinitely superior to any other universities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.64.40.37 (talk) 12:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh.[edit]

The label to the picture of Wordsworth includes 'Oh.' after his name. Is this some sort of title or is it a mistake?Kdammers (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

A bit of vandalism that's just been undone. Nev1 (talk) 21:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Guide to the Lakes[edit]

I've just created a small new article about Wordsworth's Guide to the Lakes and would welcome help and/or advice from Wordsworthians on making it better. betsythedevine (talk) 11:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Hobgoblin Hall?[edit]

Apparently Wordsworth's home was called Hobgoblin Hall? Does anyone know anything about this? I'd have thought something like this would be mentioned in the article. --76.115.67.114 (talk) 06:11, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Philosophy[edit]

As a well known Romantic Era poet, his ideologies seem rather relevant. His religion is not really discussed, nor is his stance on the French Revolution. This page seems to be missing a lot, does anyone out there have knowledge of this? Gigasuperbunny (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Not enough about his poetry[edit]

IMO the article has far too little material about his poetry. I don't get any sense of what it was like, how it was received, how it differed from pre-Romantic poetry, or modern critical assessments.--75.83.69.196 (talk) 22:01, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Wordsworth and geologists[edit]

As far as I can see, this aspect of Wordsworth is entirely missing. Uncle G (talk) 12:08, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism again[edit]

The persistent vandalism of this page (the article page, not this talk page) over years has reached ridiculous proportions. Looks like a quarter to a third of the last five hundred edits have been vandalism. I can't believe that it has been seven years since any kind of page protection has been applied here. I have just put in a request for semi-protection. --Alan W (talk) 04:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks like the appropriate level of semi-protection has now been applied. Thanks, Favonian! --Alan W (talk) 20:20, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism: Cannabis[edit]

Someone wrote about cannabis usage, and I tried to take this away. Instead, when someone else did so, it said that I was the one who put the cannabis line there. Just wanted to make it clear that it wasn't me. Packer1028 (talk) 01:44, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Duly noted! :) Favonian (talk) 15:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:William Wordsworth/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Has no inline citations, lead needs to be expanded per WP:LEAD and some minor copyediting for some awkward sentences. Also there are several one sentence sections, and several one sentence paragraphs, so perhaps some re-working of the section headings is needed. --plange 23:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Last edited at 23:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 10:44, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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Fletcher Christian[edit]

Sorry for not knowing how to bring in a question correctly. My question is: did Wordsworth have a special relationship to Fletcher Christian the leader of the mutiny of the bounty? Somewhere I read about that. Can't recall where it was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suppenkasper9 (talkcontribs) 17:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

They both went to the same school in Cockermouth. Wordsworth was younger by a few years so (school careers were usually short then) I'm not sure if they were even there at the same time. Certainly the "school friends" claim seems to have been fancifully made up.
Another poetical link is that Fletcher Christian has also been cited as an influence for Coleridge's Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Christian died young (probably) but there's also a tale that he returned to England: incognito of course, as he'd be hung as a mutineer. Coleridge may have seen him, regretful in his older age, as a model for the ancient mariner. Alternatively this mariner may have been the inspiration for the tale that Christian had returned. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)