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- 1 St. Peter's
- 2 Abigail and Brittany Hensel
- 3 Grace Sherwood picture
- 4 Talkback
- 5 Leonardo da Vinci
- 6 Roof inspection
- 7 Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci
- 8 Message from Murray
- 9 Taare Zameen Par
- 10 St Andrew's
- 11 Ahoj!
- 12 DYK for Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci
- 13 Discussion
- 14 See Ownership
- 15 Help...
- 16 Australia-Italy 15-0
- 17 St Saviour's Church, Tetbury
- 18 An architectural favour
- 19 It's Not Over
- 20 Miss Moppet
- 21 St. Pete's
Abigail and Brittany Hensel
I commend you on your command of the subjunctive. But barbarism is a perfectly civil word with a four-millennium pedigree and I suggest you educate yourself before making condescending edit summaries which are not only both rude, but also silly.μηδείς (talk) 15:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Grace Sherwood picture
I saw your complaint about the picture at T:MP and, since I raised the issue that led to that picture being used, let me explain here since the article has been taken off the main page after someone noticed that most of it seemed to have been plagiarized from a USA Today article.
About a week ago I was looking over the upcoming FAs, and noticed that the little box for the article was illustrated with a picture of the statue of Ms. Sherwood. This piqued my attention, as freedom of panorama under US copyright law does not apply to copyrighted public artworks whether they are three-dimensional or two-. In other words, if the statue was copyrighted, the picture would inherently be a derivative work and thus the image could only be used here on Wikipedia under fair use. And no fair-use images are permitted on the Main Page, as part of our goal of promoting free content.
I let Rlevse know (apparently, no one at FAC had picked up on this), and we had to come up with a replacement image that was free. That was why that image was used). Daniel Case (talk) 14:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Leonardo da Vinci
I dont think you are a vandal at all, I just repaired the wikilink to Leonardo da Vinci when I saw it was not working. Good luck with your article! With regards to your second message, I would gladly give you candy, but halloween is over so that wouldnt be right.. :) The rest of your message is completely lost on me.. what is a Won-won and I would not know why anyone would give you a spider and let you run up a hill.. Ruigeroeland (talk) 08:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I was trying to explain what the "Roof Inspection" is and even describe all of the steps. In the United States the most popular type of roofing is shingle roofing because everyone can afford it. Companies give 5-10 years of warranty protection for labor and up to 3 times more for material, however a proper maintenance needs to be performed minimum once a year and after all heavy weather conditions. If a homeowner doesn't request a roof inspection once a year, the roofing company can legally reject his further warranty claims. This is why I wanted to write about this. People don't realize that their roof needs to be inspected.
Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci
Hope you don't mind, but I thought the article looked so good I nominated it for DYK using the opening sentence . I'd heard nothing of it until I read it here, which makes it very appropriate. Very best as always! JNW (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Message from Murray
By great good fortune I have just been worrying about how to redirect some substantial(over 100MG)e-mails from Italy to you. The e-mails are from Nicola Barbatelli and 'mcglinny', both of the Lucan Museum, and are precisely to address the concerns you raise. Niko sends a long and excellently illustrated catalogue/report? rendered in Italian, and importantly, a special english translation of the text sans pictures for you to feast on! I havn't read it yet, but it looks fascinating, and I can't wait for your take on it! I have mislaid mclinny's proper name - he is a representative of a local enclave with ancient Irish origins. The Gaelic Harp is a famous export from the area, and the mclinny's were married to a Sforza. Anyway, he has sent some video files of a computer-generated 3-D model for you to study and comment on. My computer(I) can't handle the .rar files, so I havn't seen them yet. Apart from this, I have been trying to migrate the pictures at 'leonardo da vinci lucan self-portrait' to the gallery on the Lucan page. I noticed the descriptions were already fixed, and tried without success to remove 'self-' from the file names. I have had three quite different results to these attempts, none of which worked.
Now I am fishing around for a bribe to get you to do the work.... How about a business card reading;
Your Name Director of Wikipedia Operations Museum of the Ancient People of Lucania ITALY
I'm sure the Museum would be pleased to supply such cards for your use, and you could surely get tea and bikkies for two at their Castle should you ever be in the area.
Anyway, I suppose you can see my e-mail and send me yours so I can forward the files - substantially more than 100 MG
Soon I will establish a howto conversation concerning unmentionable ...
Taare Zameen Par
I must say, I'm a bit lost as to why exactly you reverted the St Andrew's cathedral article back to the former layout. It seems to go against how articles are supposed to look, and to me gives a rather awkward impression to the page. I can understand in theory that the facade should face into the article as you said in your summary, but I just don't think the layout of the article looks any good the way it is because of it. Just my opinion though. Anoldtreeok (talk) 09:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Ciao Amanda, since you're speaking of St. Andrews, if you've time can you give a check to my last article, Basilica di Sant'Andrea, an outstanding medieval church in Vercelli I've just visited? I'm not also much convinced of Alcazaba of Badajoz... let me know. I've also scheduled Cathedral of Badajoz.. stay connected! PS: there's Italy-Australia next Saturday. It's true we've never beat you, but there's always a first time! Joking! Ciao and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 10:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
- See cotto (material); for hut-shaped, this is a problem I always have when translating from Italian! It refers to the shape of façades in churches, see []. Ciao! (PS: I've just finished Cathedral of St. John the Baptist, Badajoz. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 11:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci
|On 14 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that some believe the Lucan portrait (pictured) is a self-portrait of Leonardo da Vinci? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.|
The Sagrada Familia article does not belong to you. Wikipedia is a cooperative effort. Plesae take note of the warning adjacent to the edit "save" button: If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.842U (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi! This Monasteries of San Millán de la Cogolla is in an awful state for such a masterwork! Do you want to form a task force to upgrade it to a decent state? By the way, I lent some help at Lucan portrait, but honestly I didn't find traces of that stalker you told me of. Let me know... Ciaooooo! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 18:07, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Don't worry... I surely complain also about the Italians! Not to speak about the easy target, our overlord Silvio Berlusconi, give a check to nice guys such as Umberto Bossi... and his electors are around me now I lived in northern Italy! Brr... chills of disgust. Even Piedmont (I am in Turin now) which was traditionally leftish, now has a total Northern League jerk as governor. To put it on the fun side, maybe I'm especially angry against you Commonwealth guys since Australia again washed us out yesterday in rugby! So for me being polite, or the grocery man, wait till we'll be beating Australia or New Zealand! Joking! Seriously, I really admire Anglophone and Nordic civilizations, and I honestly think you (and Australia in particular) are far better than us in 90% of life things (and 90% of what remains comes from our past). Again honestly, in the matter I got disappointed since I always had a very big picture of Times and British journalists in general (while 90% of Italian ones are renowned to be just serfs of they payers), but for once I understood that journalist made a big mess and did not study in depth the matter. Ciaoooo!! Hugs from Attilio. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 12:11, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- What Nona really wants to know is: The word "desktop" has been used in the material that Murray pasted on the talk page. The auto-translator (I am almost sure that this wasn't translated by some arrogant Italian with very poor English....) has it as:
- The quality of the painting in general and fundamental stylistic characteristics such as the indefinite desktop.... What on earth does it mean? If you could possibly find the Italian version, I'm sure you could translate this more accurately.
Many thanks for the award you have so generously given me. As you will have realised, I have little knowledge of architecture, and so rely entirely on sources, and I am not a professional writer; so thanks for the edits. Just a few queries on these. I could not find in the sources any reference to "Flowing Decorated Gothic style of the early 1300s" (does that need some explanation?), "splayed" buttresses, "catslide" roofs, or "lancets". I guess I must have missed something, so could you guide me to it? Also are you sure that the John Hardman was one of the John Hardmans from Hardman & Co.; if so which one would he have been? About local stone, I assume it must be Cotswold stone, but the references do not say this, and I do not want to make any unsupported assumption.
You may be interested to know that the article is part of work I am doing in my sandbox here, to produce an article on each of the conserved churches in the list. It is part of a series which includes this by another editor, now at FLC, and this. These are to complement two much smaller lists of conserved churches or chapels, both FLs, Friends of Friendless Churches and Historic Chapels Trust. All these conserved churches are of interest and importance, and IMO worthy of a place in an encyclopaedia.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
An architectural favour
Hi there, I noticed your comments at Peter I. Vardy's talkpage and wanted to ask a favour. You seem to be very knowledgeable about architecture! I've been getting into some architecture-related articles lately, although like Peter, I work with very little background knowledge of the subject. I've written a list, Listed buildings in Poulton-le-Fylde, which I'm planning to nominate at WP:FLC very soon. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind having a quick read through of the list entries to see if they make some kind of sense architecturally-speaking. I sometimes find it difficult rewording the source material when I don't have too strong a grasp of all the architectural terms, and I'm a bit worried that I may have written things that don't make much sense! I don't know if you like reviewing other people's work, or if you even have time, so don't worry at all if you are too busy or just not inclined, but any advice you could give would be very much appreciated! --BelovedFreak 13:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
It's Not Over
Hi Amandajm, FYI: To Autumn FAR Commentary Again some people out of the blue are moving to throw out the work you've done (with a bit of help from me). Regards, Alan W (talk) 02:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know why you are fighting me, when I am making an effort to help you. I am on your side. I fully agree that some of my edits to your edits, while well intentioned, ended up being too vague and ultimately pointless. I have no complaints about your removing the Byron-Shelley thing, for that reason. But I still disagree with you about Constable. The only connection with Constable is that Boey Kim Cheng thinks that the poem's presentation of landscape is "richer than any Constable painting." That's fine with respect to Boey's view of Keats's poem. But that does not establish any actual connection in the poem or in anything Keats remarked on it in his other writings to anything by Constable specifically. Keats seemed to see some connection with landscape painting, and maybe I didn't successfully revise your edits to reflect that correctly. But I don't think we can mention Constable, given the sources we know about right now, without entering into, yes, "OR".
- It really doesn't help for you to be calling my well-meant, if not always successful attempts to help "nonsensical" or "silly". How would you feel if I said the same about your attempt to drag in Constable? Neither of us is perfect, but it looks to me like of those who are paying attention to this article right now, we may be the only ones who know anything much about poetry. So I think maybe we can agree to disagree about some things in a peaceful, mutually respectful manner. It would help both us and Wikipedia in general. Maybe the article should be delisted. I don't know. Still, we might be able to work together to make it a little better than it is. Regards, Alan W (talk) 07:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
- I meant to mention yesterday that I think that your changing of "rural landscape" to "the work of English landscape artists" was good. I was thinking of landscape painting, but somehow only the misleading landscape got left in. And I hope it is becoming clearer to others that rather than messing up a Featured Article, we are both—especially you—working hard simply to make this a better article, one that hopefully will soon become truly worthy of Featured status. Regards, Alan W (talk) 06:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- At last I've had the chance to get to a library with some of these sources. One is Vendler's book, and now I can see more clearly what she was saying about "To Autumn", a very interesting idea, I think. I don't think that came across well enough in this article as it was, and I've made an attempt to edit the paragraph to bring out Vendler's points more clearly and forcefully. How well I succeeded, I don't know, but I tried. Regards, Alan W (talk) 03:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
After The Story of Miss Moppet was promoted at FAC, it was discovered that the primary contributor had closely paraphrased or copied many sentences in many articles, and that in some cases facts presented were not backed up by the references cited. The user was indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of a banned user - for more details, please see Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/ItsLassieTime.
Truthkeeper88, with help from Ruhrfisch, has since made sure that the language used in Miss Moppet does not closely paraphrase or copy that in the original sources, and checked almost all of the sources used to make sure the facts cited are backed up by the sources. We are now asking all editors who contributed to the FAC to please review the article and comment at Talk:The Story of Miss Moppet#Post-FAC cleanup review comments on any concerns or issues they have with the current cleaned-up version of the article. Thanks in advance for any help, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
We probably ought to change it to something (alas) a bit more vague like "Catholic tradition" and leave a note on the discussion page. I have no way of tracking down his "Church father" ref. Will give it another shot when I get to that page. (I deliberately lag about 2 days behind). If you come up with something, feel free! Student7 (talk) 13:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)