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CommonsNotificationBot

Hi Errant! I don't know if you saw my note earlier, but when you set up the bot to run locally, did you include notifications for files listed at WP:FFD and WP:PUF? Just curious - been working with a lot of files from now-absent uploaders and want to make sure to get some input if warranted. Thanks! Kelly hi! 20:35, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

No. But I can look at sorting that out over the weekend :) --Errant (chat!) 10:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Also re CommonsNotificationBot

Hi,

Is there a way you can delay CommonsNotificationBot from informing article talk pages for ~5 or 10 minutes? Often, someone will tag a copyvio and then go through the uploader's other images and tag them, too, but this is what happens: more template notifications than actual discussion about the article. If the bot could wait a few minutes after the first image was tagged, and then combine all the notifications into one template message listing all the tagged images, that would be stellar.

Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:37, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Ugh, that is nasty.. I did an update the other day to try and get it to condense notifications - but it only seems to be working intermittently (actually, it's occured to me as I type this that it is only set up for en.wiki images not commons ones, duh!). I'll sort it out when I update things this weekend. --Errant (chat!) 10:03, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Great—thanks! That should help immensely. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 14:31, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

User:CommonsNotificationBot/tracking log.js

For some reason, this page is ending up in CAT:SD. I assume it's because of the line that reads File%3ABSicon_ehRP2.svg|1315208919|1314186638|1315208919|None|{"reason": "Other speedy deletions", "type": "speedy"}|{"reason": "content was: \"#REDIRECT[[commons:File:BSicon exhRP2.svg]] {{speedydelete|unused redirect}}\"", "user": "Jcb"} containing {{speedydelete}}, since I can't locate anywhere else where potential speedy tags or categories are in the .js. I don't know what you want to do about this, but I figured that you'd appreciate a heads up. Cheers. lifebaka++ 18:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah bugger :( That's an annoying sort of bug, I'll have to look into that. I was meant to be fixing bot bugs etc. this weekend but had no motivation :) Thanks for the heads up! --Errant (chat!) 08:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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edit at WP:PAY

good job, I meant to say editor and somehow wrote admin :), also, I fixed a misspelling on WP:ADVOCACY--Cerejota If you reply, please place a {{talkback}} in my talk page if I do not reply soon. 12:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I edit conflicted fixing the spelling :) cheers! --Errant (chat!) 12:23, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

RfA Reform update

Hi. It's been a little while since the last message on RfA reform, and there's been a fair amount of slow but steady progress. However, there is currently a flurry of activity due to some conversations on Jimbo's talk page.

I think we're very close to putting an idea or two forward before the community and there are at least two newer ones in the pipeline. So if you have a moment:

Thanks for reading and for any comments that you've now made.

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Are you the admin ...

... who was keeping an eye on Zuggernaut in the early weeks of his topic ban? If so, could you take a look at Template_talk:Welcome-India#Asking_Indian_editors_to_counter_systemic_bias. I seem to have forgotten what exactly his topic ban was about, but I remember people complaining in the ANI that he was using the (putative) ethnicity of users who make India-related edits to further his goals, or words to that effect. I'm troubled by this template and not sure if it goes against the grain of his topic ban. Will defer to your take on this. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

His topic ban relates specifically to Indian history - it is my understanding that he has a specific view on certain aspects of Indian history, and his interactions on those areas became disruptive. That discussion doesn't seem anywhere close - FWIW Zuggernaut always struck me as being enthusiastic in encouraging Indian editors to participate effectively; one of the Foundation's focuses at the moment is in encouraging under-represented areas (such as the global south) with poor quality participation/coverage. So far the efforts I have seen him make in this arena have generally positive - but I only have a 10,000 feet view :) Certainly I'm not sure what terrible things were being done in that template discussion - it looked fine and constructive till it was sidetracked into something else. --Errant (chat!) 13:35, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

CommonsNotificationBot suggestion

Can you expand the file name in edit summaries and notification text to explicitly include "commons" for files at Commons? Example edit summary:

(Notification of possible deletion of commons:File:Flight93 Memorial.jpg (feedback, Version r92))

Now that the bot is supplying notifications for both Commons and WP files (thanks!), it will help human readers to immediately distinguish them in edit summaries. --Lexein (talk) 18:03, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Good point - on my "todo" list & I will add this when I find a spare moment to code... don't seem to have any spare time at the minute!! --Errant (chat!) 13:26, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Third Anglo-Maratha War

Hi ErrantX - Some vandalism showed up on my watchlist at the Third Anglo-Maratha War (an article I promoted to GA many months back) which I reverted. After doing so, I realized this was in the area of my topic ban. I would like to let you know that this happened inadvertently and wasn't intentional. Zuggernaut (talk) 13:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Reverting such obvious vandalism seems fine to me :) Thanks for mentioning it though. --Errant (chat!) 13:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

RfCs listed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard – September 2011

Hi ErrantX. Would you be able to close any of the RfCs at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard?

The discussions are:

  1. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Main Page features – Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Main Page features
  2. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RFC on the bot-addition of identifier links to citations and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Proposal: date formats in reference sections – Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RFC on the bot-addition of identifier links to citations and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Proposal: date formats in reference sections
  3. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Declined speedies – Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Declined speedies
  4. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Drnhawkins and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Willfults – Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Drnhawkins and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Willfults

I'd be grateful if you'd be able to close one or a few of these RfCs. If you don't have the time or the inclination, then no worries. Cunard (talk) 08:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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File:Aelogo2009atdewwhrb.jpg

Logo was received via email from the Against Equality collective with permission to upload onto wikipedia.

Please remove tags that have it marked for deletion.

thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atdewwhrb (talk • contribs) 00:00, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

So where is this alleged discussion?

A discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file, said your bot on our talk page, but gave no indication where this alleged discussion ever took place. This makes it very difficult to correct your erroneous edit. Rwflammang (talk) 00:09, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

(lurking) Yeah, that's a slight issue with the bot, it's not reporting the discussion location. However, it can be puzzled out by starting with the image page - there should be a tag there with the full info, pointing to the discussion (Example: [1]). Discussion can happen here or via here.
I'm not seeing any notices on User talk:Rwflammang or to it in CommonsNotificationBot's log , so I can't help further. --Lexein (talk) 02:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Rwflammang, as the big red box explains when you edit my page :) The image being deleted is nothing to do with myself; the bot just tries to notify you about the issue (because in the past the first WP editors new about it was the image being deleted...). To give you an idea, the bot leaves about 150 handy notifications a day; for this reason - to help you further you'll have to let me know the image name :) As Lexein says; I've found no way to reliably figure out the location of the deletion discussion on commons... but I will try and clarify the message that the bot leaves to give some pointers. As he points out; the place to start is the Image page - if that has nothing on it, check the history. It might be that the deletion nomination was out of process, or declined, or resolved in the time between CNB posting about it and you checking :) In which case - no action needed. --Errant (chat!) 07:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Question about synthetic images presented as real, published images

I've opened the question at WPT:Images. That seems to be a low traffic Talk page, so please let me know if that discussion should go somewhere else... --Lexein (talk) 11:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

CommonsNotificationBot

I have provided copyright and source information and the File:PatrickMurphy(pilot).jpg and the file no longer needs to be deleted. Shakinglord (talk) 16:52, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not part of tagging that image - my bot just notifies people. However, I notice you got the image from Suite101. It is credited to "Jane Eppinga & Ardmore Public Library, OK", which means that person holds the copyright to the image. There doesn't seem to be a free license associated with the image, so without the permission of the copyright holder we, unfortunately, can't host the image. All images on WP need to be posted under a free license (or have a valid non-free rationale - see WP:NFCC). See Wikipedia:IMAGE#Finding_images_on_the_Internet for further advice. --Errant (chat!) 17:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Mega Drive

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Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:Chris Crocker discography

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red/grey chips deletion

Yesterday I uploaded picture of the red/grey chips. I believe you nominated it for speedy deletion. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to why the picture should be deleted. Please leave me a message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Johnson1982 (talk • contribs) 09:06, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

It appears you're not paying attention. I nominated it on Commons. His bot just announced it to you. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 09:16, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Arthur Rubin - Please don't bite the newcomers. Mr.Johnson1982, this is a good opportunity for you to apply the {{hangon}} tag on the Commons page, with the stated reason on the Talk page that you will do one of the following:
A. either you will request the image owner to change the license on the original web page, to plain old CC-BY-SA (with no non-commercial exclusion)
B. or you will follow the steps at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS to have the copyright owner email the image with a filled out permission form with CC-BY-SA to OTRS
The maximum time you can expect to get would be about seven days, since it's a speedy, unless Arthur Rubin would consider temporarily rescinding the nom.
--Lexein (talk) 09:26, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of this Lexein :) You're a star. When I have a little more free time to bring back into Wikipedia (hopefully end of this week!) I will sort out the unclear communication issues with the bot & tidy up the notices. Thanks again! --Errant (chat!) 22:31, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Sure! No response from Mr.Johnson1982, I'm copying the above to user and file Talk. --Lexein (talk) 19:07, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Talk:

I'm sorry to bother you, again, but I was just curious why you denied my request to delete a Talk: page. Earlier today I requested a Talk: page to be deleted. I was thinking that it wasn't going to happen, but it did. The User: deleted it. So I requested another Talk: page to be deleted, the one that I'm currently talking about, but you denied my request. So what's the deal? --Devin Davis (talk) 03:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Well; talk pages are not usually deleted if the article about them still exists - they serve as a history of the discussion of the article. It probably got deleted because the admin saw it had minimal edits, and only from a bot. In this case it's a good idea to keep CommonsNotificationBot notices, at least for a bit, because the bot will periodically check and re-notify if it doesn't find a notice :) Feel free to tag it for deletion again! Someone might accept it for deletion; why id you want it deleted? --Errant (chat!) 17:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

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The VPM has been notified at least four times over the deletion of File:No Karl Marx.JPG, and twice about many more files. Could this behaviour be avoided? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sorry - I thought that duplicative notification thing had been fixed! I have plans to rework this area of reporting, but not time to implement it at the moment. My fault; the bot crashed today, usually I keep an eye on it to cull any duplicates manually when I reboot it, but got distracted by work. Thx for the reminder. --Errant (chat!) 16:59, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

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News and progress from RfA reform 2011

RfA reform: ...and what you can do now.

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October 2011 Wikification drive

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image Californiadreamweek logo.png

Ludmila cdw (talk) 23:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Please help me with image Californiadreamweek logo.png

I did some changes about descriptions, but I can't edit other info.

I need to put tags: 

== Licensing ==

but I don't have permissions for edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Californiadreamweek_logo.png.

What I can do?

Thanks, Ludmila.

image Californiadreamweek logo.png

Ludmila cdw (talk) 23:10, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Please help me with image Californiadreamweek logo.png

I did some changes about descriptions, but I can't edit other info.

I need to put tags: 

== Licensing ==

but I don't have permissions for edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Californiadreamweek_logo.png.

What I can do?

Thanks, Ludmila.

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Picture inconsistancies

A quick note, the floor plan has several inconsistencies. I realize you didn't create it but I would direct you to several inconsistencies I have noticed.

1) The Portico is wrong. A low wall stands on the West (reference North = top of plan) and the entrance is from the South.

2) A window is missing on the South wall - assuming its over the lavatory.

3) A double door is located on the East wall instead of a window. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quneur (talk • contribs) 12:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Which floorplan are you referring to?
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 14:39, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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