User talk:Graham87/Archive 50
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Your email of 1 October
Reddog52 (talk) 04:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)Dear Graham87. Thank you for your email pointing out some of the conventions and definitions I had not been aware of, including the definition of 'minor edit'. I am a newcomer to Wikipedia and had thought my changes were actually quite minor but take you points on board. You mentioned the convention of a place being nominated as a suburb or a town by its LGA and I did have some prior awareness of that. In fact some of my changes were consistent with that rule. For instance, on their Wikipedia pages the settlements of Lapstone and Glenbrook are both described as 'suburbs'. These places are both within the City of the Blue Mountains LGA, and from what I could see all other places in the Blue Mountains were referred to as towns or villages. The same occurred with Pitt Town, in the Hawkesbury City LGA. On its Wikipedia page it is described as a 'historic town and Sydney Suburb'. Again, from what I could see, no other places from the Hawkesbury LGA were described as suburbs. So, my changes with these were actually in keeping with the rule. There is another consideration here, which I think should also enter into any such determination, and that is whether the local inhabitants consider whether they live in a suburb or a town. I know this question of identity (or loss of identity) can often be a 'hot button' issue in the Blue Mountains, and I understand that that may be the case in the Hawkesbury area as well. It was also an issue at Campbelltown (Macarthur region, NSW) when I worked there during the 1990s. Maybe that is something i can raise on the Australian Wikipedian's Noticeboard? The other question you raise is 'suburbs vs neighbourhoods' and that 'we have suburbs in Australia'. By and large I agree with you but I would also say that the term neighbourhood is not at all unfamiliar in Australian usage, and in many situations of describing an (Australian) urban location is more useful than the term 'suburb'. This is particularly so with inner-city localities. People from the US, the UK and Europe see the descriptor suburb as having a more specific meaning of an outlying urban district, normally beyond the city boundaries. People from those regions of the world would never call inner-Sydney locales like Woolloomolloo, or Ultimo or The Rocks as suburbs, and I have found they are bemused when they are described as such. With the international scope of Wikipedia's readership, I thought 'neighbourhood' gives a much better indication of the nature of these inner-city locales than 'suburb'. It is a term that is also understood by Australians as well as those from overseas. Note that I only substituted neighbourhood for suburb for localities wholly within the City of Sydney LGA. For place names beyond that LGA I think it is appropriate to call them 'suburbs'. Hope I have not written too much here. I did feel the need to explain my rationale. Thank you. Reddog52 Reddog52 (talk) 04:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- hmm, some xxxx editors enjoy playing with the ABS designated suburbs - which are NOT suburbs, and really stuff up any consistency in the oz project - in most cases there are some editors who prefer 'locality' - the place that is named - then in some states some xxxx government departments hate the idea of a space of land being 'unallocated' and call what more correctly regions - as vast localities that do not exist on maps or in peoples heads or anywhere but the fevered imagination of the bureaucrats who created the bizarre items... apart from that I disagree with so much that reddog asserts, I simply dont have the time to pull each item into an explanation and develop from there...
In the past we had a field of editors who could positively and constructively interact on these issues - but hell, off the perch in various ways, they have fallen... JarrahTree 04:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Probably (as an observor of the damnned mad conversations about the absurdity of ABS suburbs and other delightful items) - the LGA designations in the end should be the best guideline - if a LGA in whatever state has identified an area as 'locality' or whatever, then the designation from the LGA should be considered seriously as a guide as to what they are. JarrahTree 04:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Reddog52: Yeah pretty much. Also in this case see the top of list of Sydney suburbs, which mentions factors beyond LGA's. I'll give you Lapstone and Glenbrook because they're not on there, but not Pitt Town, which is. The rest of your points will need to be discussed at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board ... in particular I don't think you'll find much agreement re neighbourhoods. For what it's worth when I think of the word neighbourhood" in an Australian context, I think of the current street and maybe a few surrounding roads, not anywhere with definite boundaries like a suburb. Graham87 04:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- To clarify 'neighbourhood' is not how the LGA rats and stats people designate the places for their legal and financial estimations - or the state governments or the feds - they are unquantifiable and not set in any legal context - also to go to the OZ noticeboard, the usually top notch and up to date on the issue eds are no longer there... If you fathomed the archive carefully, these sort of discussions go back over ten years, and altering established systems of identfiying 'places' are usually met with responses that dont help either. JarrahTree 05:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Reddog52: Yeah pretty much. Also in this case see the top of list of Sydney suburbs, which mentions factors beyond LGA's. I'll give you Lapstone and Glenbrook because they're not on there, but not Pitt Town, which is. The rest of your points will need to be discussed at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board ... in particular I don't think you'll find much agreement re neighbourhoods. For what it's worth when I think of the word neighbourhood" in an Australian context, I think of the current street and maybe a few surrounding roads, not anywhere with definite boundaries like a suburb. Graham87 04:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Graham,
Your moves caused a lot of redirects to turn up as broken redirects that have to be fixed or they would have gotten deleted. Please leave a redirect from your future moves so bots can correct the redirects to the new location. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Liz: Thanks for the note; I should have checked that after my page moves! I normally leave redirects behind/check the results of page moves but I'd messed up the page history so much that I'd forgotten this time. Graham87 04:43, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
"McShittles" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect McShittles. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 8#McShittles until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:15, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
October harvest
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music today, - enchanting, said a critic about the Mendelssohn that I heard on 3 October, - this video is older, and the YT in the article comes with a Bach encore as she played for us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Amazing music and playing. I love that Bach encore, the Adagio from the first solo violin sonata, which she played with such serenity. The next movement, the fugue (as performed by the Australian violinist Richard Tognetti) is one of my favourite movements of the Sonatas and Partitas. Graham87 04:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Sadly, the Fuga is not available (to me). The Bach she played on 3 October was a different Adagio but I couldn't tell which. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: That's no good re geoblocking ... if you'd like that recording, you can email me and I can send it to you as an MP3, either via email or other means ... I have it from the original CD. I would probably be able to identify the other Bach adagio if I heard it. Graham87 08:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Later perhaps, quite busy having to honour three bdays in succession and then a wedding anniversary ;) - my way to celebrate friends' special days. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- and now the memories of 16 October --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- and today my talk with the scenic designer of the year (of a 2013 play critical of refugee politics), and a a related video, which has good interviews - sadly all in German, even of the many foreigners - with people having created Salome in Frankfurt, with music. Tough to describe the scene. Imagine all pitch-black, and spotlight only on those in action. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Wow, cool. Of course I'm the last person you'd expect to know this, but I didn't actually realise that "scenic design" was a proper name for the discipline but it apparently is ... I would've said "scene design" or "set design". Oh well, you learn something every day ... Graham87 15:44, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: That's no good re geoblocking ... if you'd like that recording, you can email me and I can send it to you as an MP3, either via email or other means ... I have it from the original CD. I would probably be able to identify the other Bach adagio if I heard it. Graham87 08:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Sadly, the Fuga is not available (to me). The Bach she played on 3 October was a different Adagio but I couldn't tell which. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Admin's Barnstar |
A bit belated, but I thought your WP:IAR close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Editor review/ChrisAmaddeo was masterful and showed a significant amount of clue. Well done. bibliomaniac15 18:39, 27 October 2020 (UTC) |
Please block
Hi. Will you please block 114.4.0.0/16 (talk · contribs) since IPs on this range have been persistently harassing and vandalizing pages I edited and my talk pages for months. Not only in enwiki but also across several wikis like idwiki and commonswiki. Its sisters, 120.188.0.0/17 (talk · contribs) and 114.5.0.0/17 (talk · contribs) (also 114.5.0.0/16 (talk · contribs) on ENWIKI) are now globally blocked for this exact reason. Thanks. Flix11 (talk) 04:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Side question
Since we're on the topic... So do screenreaders (or some of them) simply ignore the parentheses, as if they're just note there? How does that makes sense? I mean, the presence of parentheses signals something about the ideas being communicated. So again: how does that make sense? Is there some option that tells the reader to speed things up by omitting certain stuff. EEng 03:13, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- @EEng: I've replied at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Including the release year in parentheses ... I'd forgotten that I had a non-default setting for this kind of thing. Graham87 03:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi Graham, Thank you for helping me with my article. If you have any tips on how I can get it to be a B class article that would be amazing!Izzyman4 (talk) 00:43, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Don Talbot
On 4 November 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Don Talbot, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 22:37, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Gerda's November corner
look! - ever so proud of the little article which is my DYK 1500 and relates to DYK 1 - by sheer coincidence! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Wow, congratulations! Graham87 05:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- ... and about a Graham, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Hehehe oh yes! Graham87 07:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- ... and about a Graham, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
You are welcome, and HUGE respect from me !
Hey @Graham87, you thanked me for updating Telfer, Western Australia. For that you are welcome. I read your user page and found out that you have a serious disability and yet you are an active contributor to Wikipedia. The fact that you have managed to overcome your disability demands HUGE respect and awe. Keep up the good work !👍 SarthakKas1 (talk) 12:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi, dearest Graham87, how are you?
Me, my family and my love are going well, nobody knew mr Corona!!!
Here in Caselle Landi, Lombardy, we are red-zone and we cannot move from our municipality, but it's also better to stay home; I'm in smart-working.
I just opened this new page about a wonderful and forgotten theatre play, pleaase, do you have some minute to read it and correct my mistakes?
Please....
Thanks a lot and hope to hear from you soon.
Rei Momo (talk) 10:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Pharmacist
Hi Graham I see that your editings are all very accurate and successful. I want to make the article for the "pharmacist" better but the user Biochemistry always reverts my edits. Can you do something to help me? Lerosolas (talk) 12:58, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Question about OHSRW
Hello, I came across this user's contributions while reading about wood bison and noticed you blocked the account indefinitely, the reason cited as block evasion. I read some of the changes made by both accounts and could not understand the connection between the two, that and OHSRW's contributions seemed mostly legitimate from the few that I checked out. Sorry if bringing it up is yet another annoyance in a string of seemingly many, but I just wanted to ask: what is the perceived connection between the two accounts that lead you to block OHSRW for block evasion? Thanks, Isaac868 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Isaac868: See the archived messages on this subject and the other half of the conversation with OHSRW. I was convinced by this and, as I found after a bit of digging, their fondness for whale articles. Graham87 12:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Graham87: I see the connection and the justification. Now, I was also wondering, should this sort of thing be done through Sockpuppet Investigations? I'm new to internal Wikipedia stuff like this, so please forgive me if I am incorrect. Isaac868 (talk) 21:57, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Isaac868: It can be but doesn't have to be. Graham87 04:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Graham87: I see the connection and the justification. Now, I was also wondering, should this sort of thing be done through Sockpuppet Investigations? I'm new to internal Wikipedia stuff like this, so please forgive me if I am incorrect. Isaac868 (talk) 21:57, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi Graham. Thank you very much for suggesting that I use the Bureau of Meteorology as a reliable source of climate data for Australian locations. My sincere thanks. marcelo melo (talk) 03:05, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Marcelo melo: No worries. Graham87 03:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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Sock?
Hey there, I was poking around this guy's edit history, because I noticed some very odd editorialising, like here and here. While looking through the edit history at Harlan Lattimore, I noticed some edits long ago by someone who was blocked a while back by you: this guy. He too had a penchant for editorialising.[1][2] Both of them have a number of overlaps, both like to overuse the minor edit tickbox. Both seem to edit at about the same times. What I don't really see in Barry's edits, is an interest in Indian subjects, and spotchecking a bunch of his edits, I don't see any referencing. Rischarr, however, does add references, formatted like this. Coincidence or conspiracy? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to call it as a match and block id as such .... some of the edit overlaps are too concerning. And the first editor did sorta add references in a highly unconventional manner. Graham87 04:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Edits on Bartok, Ligeti
Hi Graham87, you reverted my edits on Three Burlesques, For Children, Bartok and a few others. Then on my talk page you wrote the following: Yeah ... I took them out then put them back after realising what the Klavier-Festival Ruhr was. If you have a conflict of interest, you should declare it on your user page ... and talk to the people at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical Music. Graham87 13:51, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Am I understanding you correctly that you will cancel your reverting of my edits? Thank you and kind regards, CordiKFR CordiKFR (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:06, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Bot interview
Hi Graham!
Wugapodes sang your praises. We'd love to interview you for our bot research- about rambot and anything else bot related! If you are free over the holidays, let me know and we can set up a zoom :) After holidays are good too. Forgive any weird syntax mistakes- I'm still a wiki amateur
-CampariVA — Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Randolph Hokanson
Hi (and belated happy birthday). I noticed that you changed one of the links for the 90th birthday concert of Randolph Hokanson. Ballade No. 4, Op. 52 was one of the pieces in that programme and the recording is now on Wikimedia Commons. The file is in ogg format and has a long amount of applause, wth Hokanson briefly commenting at the end. In the link to the biography, there is an archive/"wayback machine" link to the exactly same recording, but now in mp3 format with all applause suppressed. This is the file and you can hear it here. My question is: can we download this version of the file on wikimedia commons? (I cannot quite work out how the piano society.) Thanks in advance. Mathsci (talk) 18:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Mathsci: Thanks for the birthday wishes! I uploaded the ogg file to Wikimedia Commons some time back. Re the MP3, nope, you can't upload that version to Commons, but you are allowed to edit the ogg file ... perhaps under a different filename. Graham87 02:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I modified the ogg file using the audacity software as you suggested. I added a slight fade-out, right at the end. It sounds very much like the version from the piano society. On commons, I used your template for the new version. Unfortunately in the new title I forgot to include Chopin: File:Hokanson Ballade in F minor No 4 Op 52 90th Birthday Concert without applause.ogg I don't think it's important. So here is the new ogg file, if you're interested (there are only changes between 11:00 and 11:17). Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 20:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Mathsci: Sounds good! As a file mover there, I've gone and renamed it to include the composer's name. Graham87 00:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your speedy work. It's much better with Chopin there! Mathsci (talk) 01:00, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Yo Ho Ho
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Chopin's compositions for piano and orchestra
Hi, I replied to your comment at Talk:Chopin's compositions for piano and orchestra. I want to apologise here for my reply there being rather curt, and not even touching on the ground of the matter: the reason for that is IBAN limitations. So please accept my apologies, and understand the underlying reason. Tx, & Happy New Year! --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:52, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Francis Schonken: Yeah, I thought there'd be issues like that when I checked out the article's history ... I don't really want to get involved with this any further. Happy new year also! Graham87 06:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Graham87!
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Graham87,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Brazilian Bee Gees vandal
Thanks for the rangeblock on IP:45.190.136.0/22 and for blocking User:Marnogg for block evasion
I hope you don't mind me contacting you directly, but you are already familiar with this Australian music fan in Brazil
They have reappeared as User:Gonramm and IP:200.6.143.144 having previously been blocked as IP:200.6.143.209
Could I please ask you to block the account and rangeblock these 200.6.143 IPs? Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 16:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Arjayay: No worries; all done. I'll probably be outa here soon though. Graham87 17:06, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks - We'll await the next incarnation ! - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 17:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Using VisualEditor with a screen reader?
Hello Graham, and greeting for the new year. Hope you are well!
I couldn't find any information whether the VisualEditor is compatible with using a screen reader. I was hoping maybe you know the answer, or where I might find it.
Thanks, Keren - WMIL (talk) 13:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Keren - WMIL: Nope, it's not. These web-based WYSYWIG editors rarely are ... it took many years for Google Docs to become fully accessible with all modern screen readers so I don't think VE will be any time soon (nor would I support reaching for that because of VE's current issues and the fact that text-based markup formats are usually better-suited for blind people). Graham87 13:55, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the super speedy answer! Keren - WMIL (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
A goat for you!
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For no other reason apart from a thank you for replying to me and directing me to the Teahouse - fingers crossed some genius can solve my lack of skill on this platform
Veracity000 (talk) 14:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Veracity000: Thanks very much! Graham87 15:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Graham87, My apologies, I took too much text out when trying to clear-up after the IP. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 11:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- @David J Johnson: No worries; mistakes happen. Graham87 11:07, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Congratulations
Hi, Graham. We had an amusing conversation on the Talk Page Highlights project Talk Page a few years ago, and when I saw your picture in the 20th anniversary list of profiles, I went "Hey! That's the guy I talked about silly old comments regarding giant squids and elephants on LSD with!" Thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and congratulations on being profiled for the 20th anniversary celebration! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.239.198.133 (talk) 05:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks very much ... oh wow, didn't know it was up already! And that was indeed an amusing conversation. Graham87 06:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be a way to consistently link to my actual profile, but it is up there ... Graham87 06:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
218.250.24.24
Can user:218.250.24.24 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 12:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Database imports
Dear Graham, I'm just being nosy/curious and it is of absolutely no importance whether I understand it or not, but what do edits like this actually do? I can see that it is something gnomic and technical with, seemingly, no effect on The Article In My Pocket (thank you Harold) but it must be doing something or you wouldn't bother! So, I am sorry to attempt to use you as a free education service for the technically clueless, but if it is not too much of a pain to tell me what this is, I would be interested to know. With thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- @DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: No worries at all ... I've been adding edits from older versions of the Wikipedia database to pages to make their histories more complete. In the case of Robertson Davies, before I made my edit imports the earliest edit available in the page history was this one from December 2001, and now we have what is almost definitely all the history dating back to 27 July 2001 (UTC)! Graham87 07:11, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Gosh! Thank you Graham, this is amazing and interesting. I had no idea that this sort of archaeology/restoration was possible. I assume that somehow the early history was lost to the main system (accident?) but still available in some backup or clone. I'm impressed with the early history of Mr Davies – it even predates my very first edits here from some IP address. Also who made the second edit, and the sort of language that was OK for a while! Goodness me. Thanks again - it is fascinating stuff. I almost feel nostalgic for them t'days – but not quite! With best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- @DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: Indeed, it's fascinating stuff! The early history was lost because UseModWiki, the software Wikipedia originally used (as you may know), automatically deleted old revisions from a page's history if there were more recent edits to a page. In the Robertson Davies case there was an edit some time between December 2001 and the one by Conversion script that made UseModWiki delete a few revisions which are in the Nostalgia Wikipedia, a copy of the Wikipedia database from 20 December 2001, before the mystery edit had been made; details of that edit have been lost to the mists of time, because the final edit before the software conversion wasn't added when all the UseModWiki edits were imported in September 2002. Some of the Robertson Davies history was taken from the Nostalgia Wikipedia and the rest was taken from the August 2001 database dump that was uncovered in 2010. I have a few other database dumps that I've used for importing missing history; see User:Graham87/Page history observations for more details about what I've done in this area. Graham87 12:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Gosh! Thank you Graham, this is amazing and interesting. I had no idea that this sort of archaeology/restoration was possible. I assume that somehow the early history was lost to the main system (accident?) but still available in some backup or clone. I'm impressed with the early history of Mr Davies – it even predates my very first edits here from some IP address. Also who made the second edit, and the sort of language that was OK for a while! Goodness me. Thanks again - it is fascinating stuff. I almost feel nostalgic for them t'days – but not quite! With best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
RSN / RfC: Sherdog.com Closure Mess
Hello, an uninvolved editor named Buidhe closed Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_318#RfC:_Sherdog.com some time ago with the consensus for option 2 but somehow he used the explanation for option 3 in this [3]. That caused some confusion and then some editors in favour of option 1 complained about it here at User_talk:Buidhe/Archive_12#RFC_closure. Then Buidhe changed his closure 2 weeks later in this [4], again, and disregarded votes. He gave the explanation for why he changed the closure and disregarded votes 2 weeks later here at the complaint section User_talk:Buidhe/Archive_12#RFC_closure again. Apperantly he thought 5 options were confusing for editors who voted in the RfC and other editors perhaps voted for wrong options without knowing. So he didn't come to any straightforward conclusion and in the end the closure has become a mess that didn't close anything or reflect the consensus outcome of the RfC (or anything at all for one option or the other) although it was a pretty easy and short one with a rather clear rough consensus.
It would be far better if an experienced administrator like you closed the RfC once and for all, and erase this mess the closing editor caused because it affects a lot of articles in the Wiki and cause edit wars that rely on that RfC. Thanks in advance.78.190.161.207 (talk) 14:55, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- No, I don't do RFC closures ... nor do I take random requests like that. Graham87 14:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
edit comment
Hi Thanks for your message. I don't know very much about how Wikipedia works, so thanks for your assistance. I believed that a factual statement would be helpful (the 'evidence' is in the music notation), so I didn't think that could be contentious. Is that helpful? With all good wishes Rupert — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.5.3 (talk) 18:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
pitch
Hello Graham87, my cover is between F major and F# major or exactly in F# major? I'm not sure. 205.237.30.142 (talk) 18:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
In friendship
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Jerome Kohl was on the Main page today, remembered in friendship - the image - my calendar pic for January 2021 - shows green nettles frosted in spiky ice crystals, and the sunlight shines through --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Wow cool! Graham87 14:35, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Your behaviour at Eight Short Preludes and Fugues
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Your recent editing history at Eight Short Preludes and Fugues shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:19, 28 January 2021 (UTC)