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your absence

is noted - come back some time JarrahTree 15:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, of course. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 01:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support YBG (talk) 01:43, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 18:49, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

your silent 2016 edits are noted this strange place in this strange world needs pdfpdf like items to return more volubly, JarrahTree 15:07, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well thank you! ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

so much excrement staining the screens of electronic devices, we need the loofah holders to wipe so we can see - help us see the reality behind the stain mr loofah man JarrahTree 00:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You express more confidence in my abilities, (and/or the effectiveness of my abilities), than I feel that I have. So it's very nice to discover that there's at least one person on the planet who thinks I'm not a complete waste of space ... Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:15, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

File:Xmas Ornament.jpg

To You and Yours!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects for discussion

Discussion to address the redirect Rosina Forsyth Mortlock at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 14#Rosina Forsyth Mortlock - The Drover's Wife (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion to address the redirect Dorothy Elizabeth Mortlock at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 14#Dorothy Elizabeth Mortlock - The Drover's Wife (talk) 15:38, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion to address the redirect John Andrew Tennant Mortlock at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 14#John Andrew Tennant Mortlock - The Drover's Wife (talk) 15:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of William Ranson Mortlock for deletion

Discussion is taking place as to whether the article William Ranson Mortlock is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The Drover's Wife (talk) 15:39, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alexkid

User:Pdfpdf/Alexkid

Proposed deletion of Australian Institute of Management

The article Australian Institute of Management has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: Non-notable organisation, fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG Discussion on the article's talk page. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Pdfpdf/Bernard Evans (artist)

User:Pdfpdf/Bernard Evans (artist) has been nominated for deletion.

Discussion is at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Pdfpdf/Bernard Evans (artist)
You are free to edit the content of User:Pdfpdf/Bernard Evans (artist) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion.

Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 18:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Former stub in mainspace that was A7'd but moved an admin into userspace. It's not been improved since. Legacypac (talk) 18:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand. Please explain. I have dozens of sandboxes containing various data ranging from placeholders, notes, lists of potentially relevant references, article skeletons, works in progress, through to "stuff that's nearly complete". None of these are in the article space - they're sandboxes. Why are you picking on this one sandbox? You write: "It's not been improved since." Why is this an issue? In fact, just what is the issue? Why are you nominating one of my sandboxes for deletion? I do not understand. Please explain. Pdfpdf (talk) 23:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see a link to this sandbox appears on Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts/Full/2 and Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts/33

Why?
Who put them there?
How?
When?

Pdfpdf (talk) 23:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jubilee 150 Walkway has been nominated for discussion

Category:Jubilee 150 Walkway has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 June 19#Category:Jubilee 150 Walkway Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:50, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:SAAFL clubs in Adelaide has been nominated for discussion

Category:SAAFL clubs in Adelaide has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 June 28#Category:SAAFL clubs in Adelaide Thank you. Jenks24 (talk) 21:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Essentially a duplicate of its parent category, Category:South Australian Amateur Football League clubs. No need to upmerge because all articles are already in the parent cat. Jenks24 (talk) 21:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

User:Jenks24: That sounds logical. I have nothing to add. Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Copying licensed material requires proper attribution

It appears that you have added material to the article List of recipients of the Bravery Medal (Australia) using content from http://www.dpmc.gov.au/government/its-honour. While you are welcome to re-use licensed content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying from other compatibly-licensed web pages, please at minimum mention in an edit summary at the new page where you got the content. It's also a good idea to place a note on the article along with your citation. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied licensed material before, even if it was a long time ago, please go back and provide attribution. Let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:32, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message, but I am confused. I have no idea what you are referring to.

First, I'm not aware that there's anything on that page that comes from http://www.dpmc.gov.au/government/its-honour. Can you please be specific?

Second, everything on the page is attributed.

Please explain. Pdfpdf (talk) 01:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Under the terms of the Attribution 4.0 International license, you must provide attribution. This is different from adding a citation; what it means is that if you copy their prose, you must say so,

Except I HAVEN'T copied their prose.

So again I ask you: I'm not aware that there's anything on that page that comes from http://www.dpmc.gov.au/government/its-honour. Can you please be specific? Pdfpdf (talk)

like I did here.

On a different topic, the page is getting so big (983 kB), it's almost crashing my browser. People on a slow connection or a smartphone will not be able to view this article at all. Suggestion: split it alphabetically. See for example List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (L). There's more info on this topic at Wikipedia:Article size. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:41, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where are you getting 983kb from? (I'm only seeing 300kb.)

I don't see this as being my problem. (There are many, many many list pages > 1Mb).

Y'know, you're not inspiring ANY confidence in me in the reliability in your shoot-from-the-hip accusations. So far you're scoring 0 out of 2. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:52, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The prose of the actual awards such as you added in this diff was copied from the government website. It's okay to copy it, but you need to make it clear that it's a quotation and not your own prose.

From the menu on the left, I clicked on "Page size", and it gives a result of "File size: 985 kB". It shows a "proze size" of 307 kB. The tool does not give an accurate "readable prose size" because most of the prose is inside the table and is not being counted. Transferring the material into an external editor gives a result of 20,567 words, which is double the suggested guideline at Wikipedia:Article size#Readability issues. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The prose of the actual awards such as you added in this diff was copied from the government website. It's okay to copy it, but you need to make it clear that it's a quotation and not your own prose.

OK! Now I can see where you're coming from.

Actually, that text came from www.forbravery.org.au, not a government website, and it is attributed as such, so I continue to be unimpressed and unmoved by your inaccurate accusation, and continue to see your edit, and your posting on my talk page, as ill-founded and irrelevant. But hey, as long as you're happy with me ignoring your comments and your posting, I'm OK with you making it/them.

(P.S. I haven't been happy with the verbosity of that stuff. Your comments have motivated me to prune it. Again, thank you. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:07, 1 December 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Conversely, I find your comments on size very interesting and highly informative. Thank you.

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

14 Dec 2016

your absence

is noted - come back some time JarrahTree 15:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, of course. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 01:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support YBG (talk) 01:43, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 18:49, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

your silent 2016 edits are noted this strange place in this strange world needs pdfpdf like items to return more volubly, JarrahTree 15:07, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well thank you! ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

so much excrement staining the screens of electronic devices, we need the loofah holders to wipe so we can see - help us see the reality behind the stain mr loofah man JarrahTree 00:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You express more confidence in my abilities, (and/or the effectiveness of my abilities), than I feel that I have. So it's very nice to discover that there's at least one person on the planet who thinks I'm not a complete waste of space ... Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:15, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone prepared to go into editing in the south china sea area either has to be genius or stark raving, you are probably neither...the heavenly kingdom wants to take over the world, austyralia first (fools), so you are our first line of defence... as for space, dont let me start on that subject here JarrahTree 12:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kiddo, lets get this straight. Never a legend. More phobias than could fit in a checklist for the 1k internal spare parts lists for a piece of redundant BAE equipment. Just an aged editor really, restrained here by such a vast range of legal administrative and behavioural constraints and requirements that about the only thing possible to say is squarkJarrahTree 14:11, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure there is something in shakespeare, bukowski, or alinsky about inspiration, and for that matter milligan and antrobus (note that I do not link any of those sources), this place has certain effects, to allow any ed allocated responsibility for such a non encyclopediac tendency as inspiration, then there are probably problems with reliable sources and notability on that one, and it must be late in your timezone! JarrahTree 14:37, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

<belly laugh> ACK. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

File:Xmas Ornament.jpg

To You and Yours!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Grumpy Old Man UBX?

I'm wanting to locate a "Grumpy Old Man" UBX. Can anyone help me? (Thanks in advance.) Pdfpdf (talk) 09:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

very big problem is you might identify with too many of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Health for your own personal safety...

clearly there is no accommodation for your condition at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Emoticons clearly the usual bunch of infantile wikimedians in that lot...

in the great shopping carton of life there might be a few items that you self identify with, but i strongly suggest you keep it to yourself at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Life...

as for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia/humour better said than dead?

nah, typical nothing in site/sight ...JarrahTree 11:15, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

{{User curmudgeon}} Mitch Ames (talk) 11:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well at least you have 3 variables with that... JarrahTree 12:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Goodness gracious me! (Especially {{WP:UBS}})

This user is a Grumpy Old Man

Thank you gentlemen. As usual, there are thousands of things on the web, none of which are exactly what I was looking for. Pdfpdf (talk) 02:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

punctuation corrections

Please look at my recent edits to Edmund Alfred Cornish and Eric Stephen Barnes. Note that an en-dash, not a hyphen, is used in ranges of years, pages, etc. Thus:

right: 1953–1961

wrong: 1953-1961

right: pp. 521–9

wrong: pp. 521-9

In dates that include a month and a year, spaces precede and follow the dash, thus:

13 January 1953 – 4 July 1962

These things are codified in WP:MOS. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:24, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unhelpful

OK, I'll take the bait and bite. Why are these two edits, [1] & [2], "unhelpful"? Pdfpdf (talk) 10:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You've redlinked the council ward (which will never be notable enough for an article, most locality articles don't even mention the council ward), without even mentioning the council, implying that the ward is the council (and also implying that the author doesn't know the difference). And, as ever, it should give you pause that your response to that was to go ballistic instead of to notice the obvious that you apparently didn't the first time. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:41, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't done anything of the sort! Maybe you should pull you head in, learn some manners, and apologise? Pdfpdf (talk) 10:45, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ha. You're one to talk about manners. You get what you give. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:48, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon? I have NO idea what you're on about. Explain yourself please. Pdfpdf (talk)

...do you have any idea whatsoever how you come across to people? The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:01, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, you're phenomenally rude to people in almost literally every interaction, and to add to that most of your edits are pretty bizarre (as with the message that prompted this discussion). This is not something that elicits sympathy in the people you talk to. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:02, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It may interest you to know that when you start insulting me, I get 2 or 3 emails from other wikipedians telling me that you are "snappy" and that I should be careful of you. To be perfectly honest with you, I couldn't care less what you think of me. When I politely ask you a question, like I did this time, I would like you politely to answer the question. No-one needs all the histrionics that you've added.

Just answer the question that was asked, please. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:17, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]