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Pond fluke[edit]

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St. Valentine[edit]

Wikipedia:AFD#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion gives full instructions as to how to list an article at Articles for Deletion. You forgot to put the tag on the actual St. Valentine page; I've done that for you. I've also placed the article up for speedy deletion, as it seems to meet a criterion there too. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 22:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

April 2008[edit]

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Somebody tagged your claim about Shwa being another spelling of Schwa as citation needed. Do you have an example? Cheers, — sligocki (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Cites added: OED article on "schwa"; Bloomfield's Language (cite taken from OED). I also added "sometimes", because the German spelling, with a "c", seems to have become pretty much standard by now. --Thnidu (talk) 00:36, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi Thnidu

I mostly contribute as nl:wikt:Gebruiker:Jcwf at the nl.wiktionary. I was trying to make Tifinagh visible and took your advice to download the deja-vue fonts. I can now see some of the symbols sometimes. In fact at the recent changes of the Walloon] wikti I can see a whole word, but once I open the page I only see the last character, the rest are blocks. Any advice? (talk) 19:46, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Crowdsourced translation of the Bible into LOLcat[edit]

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Your article has been moved to AfC space[edit]

Hi! I would like to inform you that the Articles for Creation submission which was previously located here: User:Thnidu/Crowdsourced translation of the Bible into LOLcat has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Crowdsourced translation of the Bible into LOLcat, this move was made automatically and doesn't affect your article, if you have any questions please ask on my talk page! Have a nice day. ArticlesForCreationBot (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Replaceable fair use File:Map of Mt. Maunganui, NZ.png[edit]

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July 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. -- Doniago (talk) 14:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Deleting spoilers[edit]

I noticed you'd removed the identity of the murderer from The Mousetrap article. Wikipedia has an unambiguous "no spoiler warnings" policy - if something is of encyclopaedic interest, it goes in the article even if it might spoil the ending of a film, book or other entertainment. Although Wikipedia used to have spoiler warning templates that the user had to click through to see the "spoiler" text, these were dropped in 2007 and Wikipedia no longer carries spoilers in any form, including your suggestion that the reader click through to the talk page to find out the murderer's identity.

Although it may be a relief to the few reckless theatregoers who skipped past "the ending to The Mousetrap was revealed online in the play's Wikipedia article" and actively chose to start reading a section called "identity of the murder", anyone reading a printed copy of the article would be frustrated at a paragraph just ending with "now click on a link which doesn't exist on this sheet of paper". --McGeddon (talk) 16:43, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

You got me in the middle of making the change. Look at the history: my change at 16:27, 4 December 2012 UTC‎, your reversion at 16:36, nine minutes later! Have a little patience, please. I'm going to revert your change and copy this reply to your User talk page. --Thnidu (talk) 17:07, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll admit I wasn't entirely sure whether you were telling the reader to read the talk page generally, or to read a special thread which you were about to start writing, but since either of those would break the same basic WP:SPOILER policy, I went ahead and reverted it. I'll take a look at your talk page thread now, though. --McGeddon (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Conceded. I've reorganized the "Identity" section instead. See Talk:The_Mousetrap#Twist_ending_tradition. --Thnidu (talk) 18:23, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Feedback on WikiBlame bug report[edit]

Fixed. Regards, --Flominator (talk) 11:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Banda in Rigoletto, etc.[edit]

Hi Thnidu, I left you a reply [1] at Wikiproject Opera, but in case you don't see it, I'll copy it here:

Verdi's middle-period operas used bandas a lot. So did Rossini and other composers of the era. I've expanded your draft at User:Thnidu/Banda (opera) and added further sources. There is definitely enough now to move it into main space as a viable stub where it can be further expanded. Let me know if you'd like me to do that.

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:16, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Yes, please do. -- Also, others have left comments with add'l info on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Opera#Stage_band_in_Rigoletto. --Thnidu (talk) 03:29, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Now moved to article space at Banda (opera). Members of WikiProject Opera are helping to expand it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:50, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. :-) I've added it to List of musical ensemble formats. --Thnidu (talk) 17:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

File:Vinyl record.jpg[edit]

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If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. (talk) 18:52, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

  • [Originally posted at user talk:RHaworth] I see, via a note on my talk page, that you deleted File:Vinyl record.jpg after a Speedy Deletion tag was placed on it, "because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page, or a redirect loop. If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag."
Reasonable enough, but I didn't see the warning until after the deletion, and now I can't find a history or any way to remind myself why I would have put that image or page there, so I can't reconstruct it and do it properly. Am I missing something? Or is there no way now? Please reply in that section on my talk page. Thank you. -- Thnidu (talk) 02:30, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
  • I am all in favour of not splitting discussion threads across multiple pages. In this case the better action would have been for you to place your question to me on this page, User talk:Thnidu and use a {{talkback}} tag on my talk page to bring it to my attention. You created the page on 2012-10-06 04:56:56 as #REDIRECT File:Vynil record.jpg. The Xqbot (talk · contribs) changed it on 2013-01-08 19:04:32 to #REDIRECT File:2 vinyl records + 1 CD.jpg. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:47, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
    • OK, thanks. I didn't know about the talkback tag, and other admins have requested replies on their talk pages. -- If there was no link to the page, there's no point in my trying to redo it right... whatever I was trying to do back then, half a year ago. --Thnidu (talk) 01:00, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Philadelphia Wiknic[edit]

I will be happy to meet you at the Philadelphia Wiknic on Saturday afternoon. I have been asked to be the facilitator, which only means that I will try to get the Wikipedian attendees to talk about what Philadelphia area editors would like to do in the future, such as recruiting more editors, having events, and what we would like to achieve for Philadelphia or Pennsylvania or nearby state articles. We need to be more organized. I hope you can contribute. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

@Dthomsen8: This should be interesting as well as fun. I've never been at any kind of Wiki* meetup, though I've been, um, somewhat compulsive (blush) about random fixes on WP. I hope to see you there! (I may have to get a flat fixed first, though.) Thnidu (talk) 00:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Some of us do random fixes on random articles, some of us do particular subjects or work on particular projects, and some of us (me!) swing back and forth from the random to the targeted approach. I did quite a few bridges in List of crossings of the Schuylkill River, but I have done plenty of random fixes, too.
The Wicnic is a casual event, and very casual here compared with New York City or Washington, DC. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8: Sounds good :-) . I hope to see you there!! Thnidu (talk) 01:12, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8: I wound up getting there after everyone else had left, so I sat on one of the tables and practiced guitar for a while. Can you tell me if anything got done or decided or talked about there that could help me (or vice versa) as a newbie Editor? Thnidu (talk) 17:59, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
I was very sorry to miss you at the Wiknic. Some of us from the Wiknic are considering an indoor event in early August, somewhere in University City, perhaps somewhere at Penn. It is late, I will write to you tomorrw. Have a happy Independence Day!
@Dthomsen8: Oh, good. Thank you, I did, and I hope you did too. I'm looking forward to it, hoping to make it. Thnidu (talk) 16:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Patakí review[edit]

If you are actually doing any GOCE reviews, and I wish you would, please review the Patakí article for me. The article does not have problems with grammar or punctuation. It did need a lot of wikilinks added, and the addition of the article elsewhere (not an orphan, and my education on the subject). I added the section Sources at the bottom, but the addition of inline citations was more than I have energy to pursue right now. I take a ver broad view of copyediting, but not an unlimited one. I would welcome your advice on this rather esoteric article.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on the Patakí article, especially the linguistic parts. I am going to give you credit for this article in the GOCE July Drive, and you will get a Barnstar for the work. I did put back one sentence in the lede. Good idea to add a section name. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:19, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8: Oh my, thank you! I wasn't nearly done with it. Should I continue, or will you take over? Thnidu (talk) 15:56, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
I am the cheering section and the coach. You will get the work done, and the credit. --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:58, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8: Review/footnoting is finished... as am I (4:40 am EDT)! Much of the article consists of strung-together quotations. I don't much like that; is it frowned upon?
Of more concern IMO, a plurality of these -- four refs, accounting for about 16% of the word count (roughly, 229/1444) -- are from "Duncan", cited only as "Duncan, Cynthia. Personal Interview. 15 May 2012". That is, some WPan's unpublished private conversation with this author*.
* Google search for "cynthia duncan" santeria displays 89 results. --Thnidu (talk) 08:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
@Dthomsen8: I had a good bit of email correspondence (& some phone calls) with Tyrone Peters, the creator and maintainer of I told him about the plagiarisms and directed him to the appropriate page on scribd to make a complaint, and I sent him a request/explanation adapted from WP:ERP. He assured me that it was fine for us to use his paragraph; that was on the phone, I don't have it in writing. --Thnidu (talk) 06:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
You should learn about OTRS and Wikipedia:Contact us - Licensing to learn how the written permission is documented formally. More often it is images rather than text, but text is included. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:49, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

îles Gilbert[edit]

Hi. you have put a capital I at "îles Gilbert". Nor Krusenstern or Duperrey could write like that in their books. The use of capital letters at the beginning of Îles has started very recently for Independent countries (to distinguish the islands from the state itself). It was long before it became a protectorate and then a British Colony. Yours,--Enzino (talk) 19:53, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

@Enzino: Thanks, I was unaware of that. Please add this info to the Talk page there to explain your undo. --Thnidu (talk) 01:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion for Copy editing[edit]

I suggest that you formally sign up for Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/July 2013 and start entering articles chosen from the list there. You can see my work there. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:57, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

You are signed up for GOCE reviewing, and I fixed the formatting for that. You are not signed up for the drive itself, but you can do that, too.--DThomsen8 (talk) 19:54, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 13:18, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

@DragonflySixtyseven: Thanks for the explanation and the patrolling. Thnidu (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Crab rangoons[edit]

Only users who activate the gadget is able to do that, and if you want to answer, answer tomorrow. Thanks. Cheers!-- Allied Rangoontalk 01:48, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

@Crab rangoons: Couple things here...
  1. It would make more sense to keep the whole conversation in one place, not just for my benefit but for the benefit of others reading it (as I benefited from
  2. I can probably remember what you and I were talking about and where, because it was just last night, but you can't always count on that. See point 1.
  3. Read admin Yunshui's answer to you under User_talk:Jwoodward48wiki#Remove, and the comment I'm about to add there, and stop trying to close discussions on other people's talk pages.
--Thnidu (talk) 14:53, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Helvetica diacritic[edit]

Hi, back in april you reported a problem with a diacritic not displaying correctly in Helvetica. I have now received the following statement from Apple engineers: "We believe this issue has been addressed in the latest OS X Yosemite Developer Preview". I still need to test, but it's looking good, so thank you ! —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 09:37, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

2014 Hiroshima landslides[edit]

Thank you from your help with article. I'm not native English speaker. Fruitmince (talk) 00:40, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

@Fruitmince: I'm glad I could help. Thnidu (talk) 04:49, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

RFC/U for user Worldedixor problems[edit]

I started a discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Worldedixor to help address problems with this user. Please feel free to add your own issues in the appropriate sections, endorse, or add comments on the talk page.~Technophant (talk) 19:13, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks much[edit]

Thank you for your helpful copy edit to the Featured Article I worked on, Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 11:38, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

@Cirt and Mr. Granger: Reverted by Mr. Granger. Apparently these really are uses, which in an academic work like this means they must be quotations. Mr. Granger's edit comment is
Undid revision 632245920 by Thnidu (talk) - the source says "uses", and gives specific examples that are clearly uses rather than mentions
Presumably "the source" is the book itself, which I have not seen, but Fairman is not a linguist and I don't assume a non-linguist will understand or use the distinction. However, the "specific examples" must be quotations, which in this book would be uses, justifying Mr. Granger's revert of my good-faith edit. And therefore... Thank you, Mr. Granger. Thnidu (talk) 15:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
By "the source", I mean the citation in the article, which is to this site, which discusses Fairman's essay. Surprisingly, the uses (or at least some of them) appear not to be quotations—I guess Fairman's essay is written in a more informal tone than you might expect for an academic work. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
@Cirt and Mr. Granger: I see what you mean. The locus citatus is note 226, p. 33 of the article (p.34 of the PDF), bolding added:
276. Christopher M. Fairman, Fuck, 28 CARDOZO L. REV. 1711 (2007). This article was expanded into the book with the same title. FAIRMAN, supra note 261. Each work seems to be more of an excuse to use the word than to treat the issue seriously. For example, the first two words of the article-immediately after the one-word title-are "Oh fuck." Fairman, Fuck, CARDOZO L. REV. 1711, 1711. The author keeps his promise that the reader would find no "sanitized version" of the word in the article. Id. In sixty pages, he uses the word more than 560 times (not counting the table of contents and the footnotes), for an average of more than nine times per page, and has such playful subheads as "Fuck History" and "Fuck Jurisprudence." Similarly, the author begins chapter one of the book this way: "Oh fuck. Let's just get this out of the way." FAIRMAN, supra note 261, at 1. Yet, in the fifteen-page prologue, the author had used the word at least thirty-five times. Id at vii-xxii. And, the word appeared in the titles of eight of the sixteen chapters listed in the table of contents. It is unclear, therefore, what the author was attempting to "get out of the way."
Hopkins, the author of this article, seems to feel that there's a contradiction between writing a serious article about "fuck" and playing with the word. I disagree. But none of that seriously affects the immediate question. Many of these occurrences of the word are indeed uses, not mentions, though I can't (and wouldn't) do a count to see whether Hopkins knows the difference. Thnidu (talk) 20:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Thnidu, I happen to agree with the three sentences of your last paragraph, above. :) — Cirt (talk) 20:53, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

If you are interested..[edit]

Was wondering if you could you take a look at the Spokane, Washington article and FAC. Dank has finished half of it, up to the Economy section, but I think hes focused on other things at the moment and he thinks this article could use another good copyedit. The article has 2 supports at the moment and were trying to push it over the line. If you are interested, we would love your help, if not, no worries and happy holidays!G755648 (talk) 05:28, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

@G755648: Sure, I'll have a go at it. I probably won't get through it tonight, though, as it's just past midnight here. --Thnidu (talk) 05:02, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
@G755648: Done! Please have a look at it. --Thnidu (talk) 08:02, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
I somehow missed your message here until you pinged me again, lol. As Dank said below, it is a brilliant copyediting job and Im so glad I tapped the guy who is a linguist to look at it. If Dank says its good, its got to be true. I dont know if you saw, but I thought you might be interested that I added a note in the article about one of the stories for the origin of the name, "Spokane". Its an interesting little tidbit if anything. Thank you again for your awesome contributions all over this website. You are amazing!G755648 (talk) 02:30, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
@G755648: Aww, gee, thanks! I wrote to one of my old classmates in linguistics who has worked with Salishan languages about that place name. He wrote back:
But every single so-called meaning of a Salish place name, every single one that I've heard or seen, is total fabrication on the part of some white man who was quoted because he was there before the quoter.
He passed the question on to a colleague of his who has done particular study of place names in the area. If I can, I'll find a way to incorporate their answers into the article. --Thnidu (talk) 06:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Just looked around your userspace, and I'm impressed as hell. Then I looked at the copyediting job you did on Spokane, and it's beautiful ... everything improves readability. (I'm going to make a few minor formatting edits, but I'm leaving your words alone.) I missed the boat on putting together an academic career ... that didn't bother me (much) until I got involved with Wikipedia 7 years ago ... now I find myself sorely needing help from linguists, and rarely get it in the normal day-to-day stuff. To give you a one-link introduction to what I'm up to, see WT:TFA#Proposed TFA coord team; it's very likely that I'll soon be in charge of vetting and writing the first thing that comes up each day on the Main Page, the blurb on "Today's Featured Article". I've been keeping data for a long time that may or may not be of use to linguists; let's talk about that some time. - Dank (push to talk) 12:13, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm feeling slightly embarrassed about my copyediting job there ... but that's silly, I shouldn't be. I have to pick my battles, so I typically only fix things that I know people are going to back me up on. But I'd be willing to fight for many of the changes you made (not that we have a lot of copyediting fights at FAC ... I could use a few more!) - Dank (push to talk) 12:22, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm starting to look at the second half of the article now (I haven't worked on this part before). I reverted this edit of yours ... we don't allow "see also" statements in the text, because we've found that people misuse them to imply things that they're not willing to (or can't) find sources for. It would be fine to say for instance "In (whatever year) there were three Jewish congregations in Spokane", but in general, and especially at FAC, you have to cite a source, and you have to check the source yourself. "See also" statements can be fine as section hatnotes, particularly when they support our summary style. - Dank (push to talk) 15:03, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
@Dank: Wow, thanks. It's good to get confirmation and appreciation. I was a bit worried at the reversion for a second, till I read the note and came here to see the discussion. Perfectly understandable, I was just unaware of some of the fine points. --Thnidu (talk) 18:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Sure thing, and I'm always happy to answer questions. - Dank (push to talk) 18:47, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
@Dank: I've sourced the Jewish congregation data. Would you like to take another look at the ¶? --Thnidu (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Sure, I've made an edit and I'll comment at the FAC. Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 21:45, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014[edit]

Information icon Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to an article, Chautauqua. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles, nor are such pages a forum. Thank you. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: All true and reasonable, but that wasn't a comment on the article or an editorial opinion. I saw a dead link, tried to recover it from, and wasn't able to, so I left a note to spare other editors the same waste of time. I can see that it would have been better for me to wrap that note in an HTML comment. I also think it would have been better for you to do the same rather than revert it. What do you think? --Thnidu (talk) 00:57, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
You might be right about commenting it out; that didn't occur to me. Typically I leave a note on the talk page rather than in the coding for issues like that. I posted the template here because I template regulars. It takes the emotion and wording out of play. On your suggestion though, I'll go back and add a comment. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: Using a template that way makes sense to me, for that reason. Thanks for putting the note back, as a comment. --Thnidu (talk) 03:42, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: An afterthought: a good reason for putting it into an HTML comment in the code rather than on the talk page is to accommodate different styles of copyediting. One person may read or scan the entire talk page for recent developments and methodically copyedit the whole article. Another, or the same editor on a different occasion, may notice something that looks wrong while reading the article for itself, and just go in to change that one item. --Thnidu (talk) 08:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

RE: "the more beautiful flower"[edit]

Salve Thnidu,

Mi dankas vin pro viaj konsiloj kaj korektado, mi esperas ke vi ne ĝenu ke mi skribas al vi en esperanto, sed kiel vi povis vidi, mia angla ne estas tiom bona :P. Feliĉajn decembrajn festojn kaj fruktodonan novjaron el Kolombio. --Flag of Santiago de Cali.svg Remux - I will never forget that I fell in love with the most beautiful flower Ĉu mi povas helpi vin iel? 01:21, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

@Remux: Salve amice! Tute ne ĝenas min tio, ke vi skribas al me "verde". Male: estas por mi plezuro, korespondi verdalingve. Kaj mi ĝojas pro tio, ke mi povis helpi vin tiel; kaj ankaŭ mi al vi esperas feliĉan feston, kaj sanan kaj fruktodonan novjaron. :-) --Thnidu (talk) 01:59, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

GOCE holiday 2014 newsletter[edit]

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Autopatrolled topicon[edit]

Hello Thnidu, On your user page, you are currently displaying the Autopatrolled topicon, which tells other editors you have Autopatrolled rights. You currently do not have such right, and I ask you if you would please remove the icon from your user page. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 05:46, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

@JudeccaXIII: Sorry! I'm not sure how that happened. Right away. --Thnidu (talk) 06:19, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: Wait a minute. I have "autoreviewer", which seems to have been in general recently renamed to "autopatrolled". I'm pretty sure I was given that legitimately. I'm in the middle of something right now, and then I really need to get to bed (00:21 here). I'll look at this tomorrow and get back to you.
(Heh. So I did recognize "Judecca" correctly. Sometime I'd like to ask why you chose that ID.) --Thnidu (talk) 06:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: Well, I've reviewed the revision history of my talk page and I can't find any justification for it – though I thought I had one – so I'm taking it off. --Thnidu (talk) 01:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
@Thnidu:Well, if you've been editing for a while and created more than 50 articles other than disambiguation pages and redirect pages, you'll have a chance in receiving the right. – JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: I've been editing for 9 years, but I'm pretty sure I haven't created nearly that many articles. I do far more editing than creating. --Thnidu (talk) 03:07, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
@Thnidu:mmmm..You need to create at least 50. I'v only made 5 as you can see on my user page. Keep searching for topics not on Wikipedia and maybe you can start from there on your sandbox. Make sure those topics can be expanded. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 03:15, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
@JudeccaXIII: Thanks for the advice, but it's already the case that
Small scream.png This user wastes far too much time editing Wikipedia.
and I'm already in the WP:GOCE. --Thnidu (talk) 03:24, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

February 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

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Teahouse talkback: you've got messages![edit]

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Please note that all old questions are archived. Message added by – Margin1522 (talk) 12:58, 20 February 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template.

Hi, Thnidu! Re WP:Teahouse/Questions#inline_interlanguage_link_in_citation_template.3F, the place to go with requests for options in the cite templates is Module_talk:Citation/CS1. That's where to find User talk:Trappist the monk – maintainer of the CS1 templates, silent fixer of broken cites, and one of my heroes on Wikipedia. He's always happy to listen to suggestions, but don't be surprised if he tells you why that idea was rejected years ago :) – Margin1522 (talk) 04:08, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Gotcha journalism[edit]

Sorry about removing your talk message. I think the message before messed that page up.

Anyway, it wasn't my bot that added the tag. It was added by a user back in February of 2014. Bgwhite (talk) 07:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite Oof. Looks like I must have misread the revision history search. Anyway, it's not there now. Sorry to've bothered you needlessly. --Thnidu (talk) 01:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
No problem. I've done the same thing myself and will do it again. On the bright side... I know a fellow retired University peon, somebody who remembers typewriters (IBM Selectric II was the best) and a cunning linguist. I wish I had the brain to be a linguist. Bgwhite (talk) 02:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

GOCE Feb. 2015 Blitz[edit]

  1. Ancient Greek personal names (working)
File size: 50 kB
Prose size (including all HTML code): 12 kB
References (including all HTML code): 570 B
Wiki text: 17 kB
Prose size (text only): 10 kB (1682 words) "readable prose size"
References (text only): 35 B

Finished but not during Blitz

Thnidu (talk) 18:28, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Thnidu/Template:AHDEL[edit]

Hello Thnidu,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Thnidu/Template:AHDEL for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Schetm (talk) 06:36, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

The shit hits the fan–Going offline[edit]


  • I just saw a mouse.
  • I have some routine but urgent business with the IRS and the DMV.
  • And NOW my laptop won't take a charge. It says it has 49minutes of battery power left. I'm putting this message out to my main contacts, backing it up, shutting down, and taking it in for service. I have some access via my smartphone but don't count on it.

Thnidu (talk) 19:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC) — archived 01:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


Could you please take some time to consider what you are seeing on the post you responded to here, and consider completely removing your response, which could inflame an already sensitive situation and instead, try to write something less inflammatory? A careful read should reveal to you that this is not an everyday situation. I have privately emailed Fuhghettaboutit, and also think that Theroadislong might think twice about what a templated warning delivered via a script/bot to this editor is likely to accomplish. Please read carefully and rethink your approach; bringing out the term "jackass" and your credentials might not be the best way to proceed in any circumstance, but certainly not this one. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I thought carefully before responding as I did "Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing "seems to me to be a calm and constructive response? Theroadislong (talk) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
There's nothing technically wrong there-- I can't fault you-- but I thought the Bfpage approach might be more helpful than a templated message. Tough situation. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
@SandyGeorgia and Theroadislong: I only now saw these comments. I have taken your advice. --Thnidu (talk) 09:20, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much ... I hope the situation stabilizes. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:55, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Thnidu (talk) 22:46, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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Ralph Lundsten#Albums[edit]

[Incorporating KMJA's corrections of 150720. Posted (15.08.10)]
[If any more work to do, see Lundsten's own discography section, including this "Opus listing" PDF]

  • 1966 – Dokumentation 1 (Elektronmusikstudion). (name of this organization: The electronic music studio)
  • 1967 – MUMS (Musik under miljoner stjärnor). Music beneath millions of stars
  • 1968 – Elektronisk musik (with Leo Nilson). Electronic music
  • 1969 – Tellus. Fågel Blå. Tellus. Blue Bird
  • 1969 – Svit för elektroniskt dragspel. Suite for electronic accordion
  • 1970 – Erik XIV och Ristningar. Erik XIV and Carvings
  • 1970 – Ölskog. Beer forest
  • 1971 – Gustav III. Nattmara Nightmare
  • 1972 – Fadervår. Our Father
  • 1973 – Strömkarlen: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 1. The Water Sprite: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 1
  • 1973 – Skräck och skratt, resor i okända världar. Horror and laughter, trips in unknown worlds
  • 1975 – Shangri-La
  • 1975 – Johannes och huldran: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 2. Johannes and the Lady of the Woods: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 2
  • 1976 – Cosmic Love
  • 1977 – Ralph Lundsten's Universe
  • 1978 – Discophrenia
  • 1979 – Alpha Ralpha Boulevard
  • 1980 – Paradissymfonin. Paradise Symphony
  • 1981 – En midvintersaga: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 3. A Midwinter Saga: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 3
  • 1982 – The New Age
  • 1983 – En sommarsaga: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 4 A Summer Saga: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 4/Pop Age
  • 1984 – Trolltagen: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 5 (Bewitched: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 5)/Dreamscape
  • 1985 – Välkommen (contains The Ages of Man). Welcome
  • 1986 – Fantasia by Starlight – 星夜幻想 (CD/LP/cassette published in Japan). Starry night fantasy
  • 1986 – The Dream Master
  • 1990 – Johannes och huldran (Max von Sydow reads Gustav Sandgren's story "Johannes och huldran", accompanied by Lundsten's music) Johannes and the lady of the woods
  • 1992 – Drömmarnas landskap: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 6. Landscape of Dreams: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 6
  • 1993 – Nordic Light
  • 1994 – The Joy of Being
  • 1995 – In Time and Space
  • 1996 – Inspiration (EMI Classic)
  • 1996 – Årstiderna: Nordisk natursymfoni nr 7. The Seasons: Nordic Nature Symphony No. 7
  • 2002 – En själens vagabond. A Vagabond of the Soul
  • 2003 – Cosmic Phantazy
  • 2004 – På drömda stigar. Pathways of the Mind
  • 2005 – Like the wind my longing – Classic pearls 1972–2004 by Ralph Lundsten
  • 2007 – Ut i vida världen Out in the Wide World: Symphonia Linnæi (Latin: Symphony of Linnaeus), Out in the Wide World, In the early Days of Summer, Song of the Mermaids, A Summer Saga (first performance)
  • 2007 – Lovetopia
  • 2008 – Electronic Music from the 60s and 70s (a boxed set comprising 4 previously released CDs)
  • 2008 – Dance in the Endless Night

Ministry of Defence (Singapore)[edit]

Archived 2015-09-11.0630 (UTC)

Ohhh i am not vandal but can not speaking, reading and written in mandarin/chinese language. must delete mandarin/chinese language link??? Akuindo (talk) 11:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

@Akuindo: Delete it? You already deleted it, and without explanation! I have put it back.
I support Satusuro's advice at User_talk:Akuindo#Problem:
Are you sure you should be editing on wp:en? your english expression lets you down. you must be very careful if you have short level of english. Perhaps you should be editing in the language wikipedia of your original language. User:Satusuro (12:46, 8 November 2014 (UTC))
... and not here. --Thnidu (talk) 01:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Ohhh i am sorry. i i accidentally. yeahhh. Akuindo (talk) 01:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
@Akuindo: So...
  • If your command of a language isn't good enough, don't edit text in that language.
  • From what I've seen of your English, it does not warrant the en-4 Babel userbox, "This user speaks English at a near-native level", that you have on your home user page. Your English level appears to be no higher than 2 (intermediate), and quite possibly only 1 (basic).
  • So if you edit English text, ask someone whose English is native or at least level 3 for help. In this Wikipedia, the Teahouse question page is a very good place to ask for help.
  • That doesn't mean not to do any editing. For instance, if you see a "citation needed" flag on material you know about, and you can supply a citation, then go ahead and do it.
  • And whatever editing you do, always explain it in the edit comment area.
I'll see you around the wiki! --Thnidu (talk) 01:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

@Akuindo: I visited your user home page on the Indonesian Wikipedia, and saw that you were still claiming "near-native" English ability, en-4, which is manifestly massively untrue. I've changed it to "basic" level, en-1. You clearly have some English ability, and there isn't any lower level; I'd be surprised if you can even read this message. --Thnidu (talk) 01:37, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


Archived 03:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome, I often add a {{Reflist}} to check a ref, and then forget to remove it! Smiley emoticons doh.gif 220 of Borg 05:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

220 of Borg Which of course you recognized as just what I had done. ;-$ --Thnidu (talk) 08:52, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Not immediately. Lots of red 'Cite error: ... ' messages in the references section, then I noticed there were two lists of references. One in the middle of the page. Hmm, a clue! (Thnidu did it in 'History' with a reflist. Cluedo!) - 220 of Borg 09:17, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Inquirer Building[edit]

Archived 03:20, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Anything you want to add or change? I think it's in good enough shape to move into mainspace, we just need to get the current redirect deleted. BMK (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: Thank you, you've done an admirable job of updating it and fleshing it out. It's ready for its closeup! Would you please take care of the move and the redirects, which you're clearly more comfortable with than I am? --Thnidu (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Will do. BMK (talk) 20:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
All done, I believe. Inquirer Building. BMK (talk) 23:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
@Beyond My Ken: What's the reason for a See also to Inquirer Building? Wouldn't a link be enough?:
  • Elverson Jr. bought land at Broad and Callowhill Streets and built the eighteen-story Elverson Building, now known as the Inquirer Building.
--Thnidu (talk) 02:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Meh. BMK (talk) 03:01, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
@Beyond My Ken: I'll take that as a "No", but would you please explain why? I'm not trying to argue, but to understand. The better I understand such things, the better a Wikipedian I can be. --Thnidu (talk) 03:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Jews without faith[edit]

Archived 18:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to disturb You "at home", but I have made a reply to Your comment at the talk-page of Judaism Talk:Judaism. It also includes a question to You. If possible, could You please help me (there)? I just want to fully understand the relationship Jews - Judaism. Cheers Boeing720 (talk) 20:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

(Done. --Thnidu (talk) 22:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC))

About Talmud article[edit]

Archived 18:13, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello again, if You remember me ? Sorry to disturb you "at home", but I wonder what you say about this lead sentence in the Talmud article. "The term "Talmud" normally refers to the collection of writings named specifically the Babylonian Talmud, although there is also an earlier collection known as the Jerusalem Talmud, or Palestinian Talmud ." I just find it strange if this name actually is used by Jews. If I'm correct so far, then I think "Palestinian Talmud" is an offense and should be erased. But I simply do not know, perhaps you could be kind enough to give me an advice ? I'm of Christian faith myself. But this doesn't rule out an interest of other religions. Boeing720 (talk) 14:22, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

@Boeing720: Usually called "Jerusalem Talmud". I'm not familiar with "Palestinian Talmud", but I'm not much of a Talmud scholar. I don't think it would be offensive, as it would refer to the Talmud composed in the land of Palestine when we lived there, not to the modern political Palestine. From the article:
The Jerusalem Talmud was compiled in the Land of Israel during the 4th-5th centuries CE, then divided between the Byzantine provinces of Palaestina Prima and Palaestina Secunda. The Jerusalem Talmud is also known as the Palestinian Talmud or Talmud de-Eretz Yisrael (Talmud of the Land of Israel). These latter names are considered more accurate by some because, while the work was certainly composed in "the West" (i.e. the Holy Land), it originates from the Galilee area rather than from Jerusalem.
--Thnidu (talk) 03:27, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your detailed reply. I'm also glad for your excess information and explinations.

Boeing720 (talk) 10:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Your collection[edit]

Archived 18:16, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

You may be interested in the experimental Gather edit feed for watching vandalism on Philadelphia pages. Let me know personally if you find that useful! Jdlrobson (talk) 16:42, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jdlrobson: Yes, I do. Thanks. --Thnidu (talk) 04:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
@Jdlrobson: I've been using it, but now I can't see anymore how to add a page to a collection in Mobile Beta, or how to add a collection. Wha' hoppen? --Thnidu (talk) 01:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey there was a bug but it should be fixed now though. Could you point me to the page you are having the problem? Jdlrobson (talk) 02:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@Jdlrobson: Seems to be working now. Thanks. --Thnidu (talk) 02:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

List of people from Pennsylvania[edit]

Archived 18:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at List of people from Pennsylvania. I added "TOC limit|2" template to top and changed sectional toc to "compact TOC" template. That may be what you were looking to achieve. If not, feel free to revert. (Note: The downside to this method is that a sectional "toc" must be adjusted if a section is rebalanced. Not too onerous to a rather stable list.) (talk) 03:18, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. I just undid what i had done. I see that if two sections have exact sub-section heading (e.g., "A–B"), in the second compact toc it links to first (as in, "S–Z" in athletes sub-toc links to "S–Z" of actors). I may have missed some setting in documentation for Template:Compact ToC.-- (talk) 03:29, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
@ That's why I've been using anchors: so i can link to, e.g., #ActorsAB. A bonus is that the TOC (and the §'s link list - "compact toc", yes?) can still say A-B while linking correctly. --Thnidu (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

About the excessively long (unarchived) talk pages for some articles[edit]

Archived 18:22, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I've notice your recent posts at the Ursula LeGuin talk page, and wonder if you find the crusty old dregs of unarchived posts confusing. For an instance, the last post by User:Hlnodovic anywhere on Wikipedia.en was more than two years ago. I'm beginning to consider setting up the archievebot for article talke pages like this one else it take on an aspect of speaking 'crosstime. What do you think? And thanks for the work on UR's page. I ocassionally reread her novels—Left Hand... most recently—but the paperbacks' pages are beginning to powder. — Neonorange (talk) 05:08, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Neonorange: Yeah, archiving would be a good idea. Sometimes I just get involved in an issue with somebody who hasn't touched it in eons.
That's what libraries are for. --Thnidu (talk) 05:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
@Thnidu: Well, the result is that you are doing good work in the articles. But I sometimes see recent rants responding to pre–2006 threads—dead since that year, to boot. Where to draw the line? I'm considering a cutoff the results in leaving no more than two years of an inactive thread unless the thread covers reviews for FA or GA. I hate to think of a eager new editor posting a reply to a dead thread—and waiting, and waiting, and... — Neonorange (talk) 05:47, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
@Neonorange: Good idea. --Thnidu (talk) 23:58, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

(following new section by same editor)
More frequent archiving of Talk:Ursula K. Le Guin would have preempted the section-by-section replies from Thnidu this week. Would that have been good or bad?

@Neonorange:, are you "considering a cutoff" for manual archiving of that talk page alone? or considering more broadly? or participating in current more general discussion somewhere? --P64 (talk) 21:54, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@P64: Well, a. not manual b. more broadly c. only what I've run across, for now. See my question above for Thnidu, answered by Thnidu. I've been considering only author-article tps on my watchlist (so I can watch over time). For some article tps I see more timely auto-archiving as an easy question to answer; some are more difficult. I began to consider a particular problem with auto-archiving—very stale, somewhat contentious, initial posts that eventually draw a disruptive rant (in one case, more than nine years later). Any ideas? Or examples? — Neonorange (talk) 00:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
1. "only author-article tps", "For some article tps": Are those regular plurals of TP or implied plurals of TPS?
2. I'm having trouble understanding this:

I began to consider a particular problem with auto-archiving—very stale, somewhat contentious, initial posts that eventually draw a disruptive rant (in one case, more than nine years later).

   Wouldn't auto-archiving remove very old posts from high visibility and lessen the likelihood of long-delayed rants? --Thnidu (talk) 00:46, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
@Thnidu: Sorry for my lack of precision. For 1.—yes I do mean the plural, more than one talk page. For 2.—I failed to specify the problem I saw sufficiently. Setting the auto-archive bot parameters for too long an interval does, in my opinion, increase the risk of attracting long delayed rants (and worse). I think it would be a way of improving the tone of discourse in Wikipedia. On the Stephen King talk page I shortened the auto-archive cycle to archive a BLP violation (my explanation is still on the talk page.)
I have added your talk page to my watchlist as I appreciate your work at Ursula Le Guin—and your persistence). — Neonorange (talk) 01:06, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
@Neonorange: 1. OK, thanks... though I was asking about WP:TPs vs WP:TPS = Talk Page Stalker! ;-) 2. Ah, we agree then. — (Bows.) Thank you. --Thnidu (talk) 01:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Professional Artist Client Toolkit[edit]

Archived 18:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Angélique Mezzara (September 2)[edit]

Archived 18:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Replaceable fair use File:Zoran Zaev.jpg[edit]

Archived 18:50, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Discussion taken to Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Zoran Zaev.jpg --Thnidu (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Thnidu/Ingress fan sites[edit]

archived (15.11.06)

Quoting my fill-in of the "Contested deletion" reason:

This article page should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content, because it is not intended as an article. I am accumulating notes here to add to Ingress (video game) under Ingress (video game) § Unofficial sites. I am using wikicode to organize it because it's available and simple. That's not what I intend for the content. --Thnidu (talk) 18:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
You made the article in the wrong space. Instead of userspace, you put the article in mainspace. I am going to move the article in your userspace. Then, I will ask an admin to delete the redirect. //nepaxt 18:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
@Nepaxt: Ahhh! Yes, that was my mistake. Sorry, and thanks for fixing it. I would move it myself, but that could interfere with your moving it. --Thnidu (talk) 19:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

It's now located at User:Thnidu/Ingress fan sites. Cheers. //nepaxt 19:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Your thoughts?[edit]

archived (16.06.27)

Timeline of Philadelphia has a discussion about selection and inclusion criteria. Two editors are discussing it, but we have divergent views. More opinions would be helpful. - SummerPhDv2.0 13:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Major edits in Patidar reservation agitation[edit]

archived 2016-11-09

§ July[edit]

Deleted this. Besides the grammar ("...include..." one group), this is not supported by the sources.

The other major community organisations participating in the agitation include the Sardar Patel Group (SPG), headed by Lalji Patel, Sardar Patel Seva Dal, Patidar Sankalan Samiti, Patidar Arakshan Samiti and Sardar Sena.[1]

(Named ref "Dparty2015" was used elsewhere; I pasted it in there.)

You are right in removing them. The agitation was handled by two major groups, Sardar Seva Dal of Lalji and SPG of Hardik. But there were many smaller groups involved. They collectively handled the agitation. So it is OK to not mention that smaller groups as two major are already mentioned. I think I may find some refs for them but they are too many to add here. So should we add??
@Nizil Shah: Wait, now I'm really confused. Are Sardar Patel Seva Dal, Patidar Sankalan Samiti, Patidar Arakshan Samiti and Sardar Sena people or groups? At least for a non-Indian who can't tell from a name whether it refers to a person, an organization, a place, or something else, "Sardar Patel Group (SPG), headed by Lalji Patel, Sardar Patel Seva Dal, Patidar Sankalan Samiti, Patidar Arakshan Samiti and Sardar Sena" looks like the name of one group, "Sardar Patel Group (SPG)", followed by the names of five people who head it. And what about Sardar Patel Sevadal? Or is that just another spelling of Sardar Patel Seva Dal?
In any case, the two or three major groups are enough, as long as the text doesn't imply that they were the only ones. So you can add the sentence back in, with appropriate changes, and I'll check it in context again. --Thnidu (talk) 17:32, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Sardar Patel Seva Dal, Patidar Sankalan Samiti, Patidar Arakshan Samiti and Sardar Sena are four different groups. SPG is an another group to headed by Lalji Patel. PAAS is headed by Hardik Patel. Sardar Patel Sevadal/Seva Dal are same. I think these all group names are not needed in article. SPG and PAAS are two major and main groups. So they are enough.-Nizil (talk) 18:37, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
P.S. [NOT IMPORTANT FOR ARTICLE BUT FOR SOME CLARIFICATION] Many above group names include Sardar or Sardar Patel after Sardar Patel, the independence activist and the first home minister of India. His statue Statue of Unity is under construction which will the tallest in the world when completed.-Nizil (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

§ 25–31 August[edit]

The mob vandalised shops in the CTM area and the police fired eight teargas shells to disperse the mob.

What's that?

CTM is a locality/neighbourhood in Ahmedabad.Quora Though nobody is sure about full form of CTM. ;)

§ Social[edit]

Several other communities' leaders also started agitation demanding reservation along similar lines including Brahmin, Thakore, Vaishnava, Rajput, Sindhi, Kansara, Soni and Raghuvanshi communities in Gujarat.

I've generally been linking names of ethnic/social/caste/etc. groups, because they are unfamiliar to most non-Indians. In this sentence, "Kansara" has no article, but I'm redlinking it as a candidate. Does "Soni" belong in this list at all? It has a very small article, created as a stub nine years ago by an author who came close to being blocked and who hasn't contributed since the end of 2007.

Kansara should be redlinked. It is a caste of bell-makers and utnsil-makers.[2][3] Soni is a caste historically associated with jewellary making and many are still in business. You may link it with Soni (caste).
@Nizil Shah: Done. But see Talk:Soni (caste) for fixes needed there.--Thnidu (talk) 17:01, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for taking deep interest. :) -Nizil (talk) 04:35, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
P.S. Decided to create Kansara.-Nizil (talk) 04:58, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: That looks pretty good. I'll copyedit for grammar, idiom, etc. later. --Thnidu (talk) 16:37, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: In Kansara#Caste groups you have "The Kansara belongs to Gujarat, India. Their associated groups live in Maharashtra such as Tambat." Does this mean that the Kansara live (mainly) in Gujarat? What does "associated groups" mean? Is Tambat a town, a region, or what? --Thnidu (talk) 17:56, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Kansara live mostly in Gujarat. Every caste has associated castes which are in related historically or in same profession. See infobox. Tambat is caste associated by similar profession.-Nizil (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Hope you are in good health now. Btw I am also in medical profession.. so just-Nizil (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)