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Excluding a revert of an IP and a minor revert, you are now at 4RR in under 24 hours on the Scalise article. You might wish to consider stepping away for a day or so as a result. Happy New Year! Collect (talk) 02:50, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

@Collect: I certainly did not intend to edit war, and I don't think I have crossed 3RR, but I may have missed something. Would you be so kind as to provide diffs to four reverts that I have made in a 24 hour period? Many thanks.- MrX 03:09, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
  1. [1] 16:59 et seq
  2. [2] 19:40
  3. [3] 20:08 et seq
  4. [4] 21:02
  5. [5] 23:40

Seems to add up to 4RR in under 7 hours. And your edit [6] at 15:38 on 30 Dec makes 5RR in 32 hours. I did not count your edits which did not affect prior recent edits. Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Are you serious Collect?
  1. Yes, this is a revert, although not a wholesale one.
  2. This is adding new content (sources), not reverting. However, you did subsequently revert my edit here.
  3. This one is especially absurd. I corrected a title in a cite, changed the date format on cites that I previously added, and I added information to the cites that I previously added.
  4. Again, this is adding new content. Why would you ever think this is a revert?
  5. This trivial change of your grammar error from "...he had spoken at a white supremacist group founded leader David Duke." to "...he had spoken at a white supremacist group founded by David Duke.", in practice this would not count as a revert, and it certainly isn't edit warring.
I'm deeply troubled that you would raise this issue with me. Essentially, there is one revert in the diffs you listed. I suspect that you wish this to have a chilling effect to keep me from editing Mr. Scalise's biography. Or perhaps it is meant to teach me a lesson for warning you of your own unambiguous edit warring. In either case, I believe it's petty and vexatious, and indicative of an obvious WP:BATTLEFIELD mentality that I've observed in you for several years.
Collect, please consider this a good faith warning to stop this nonsense and start editing collaboratively; stop edit warring; and stop twisting policies and wikilawyering to suit whatever personal agenda you have. If you continue in this vein, I will have no choice but to escalate these issues, as I believe they are ultimately harmful to the project. Thank you.- MrX 13:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I was tripped once on a "one letter change" and if you read WP:EW it does indeed say that even a single letter may be counted as a "revert". Cheers -- Hold yourself to the same standards to which you wish to hold others. Meanwhile I suggest that you recognize that my note was polite and not a template - which I trust you noted but forgot to mention. Collect (talk) 13:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I do appreciate your polite warning, however, you have not addressed the substance of my rebuttal to your accusation. If we have admins who are blocking people for changing one letter (assuming it doesn't materially change meaning), then that's a pretty clear abuse of their authority and a disregard for the purpose of WP:EW which is to encourage collaborative editing and discourage disruption.
If you sincerely believe that I was edit warring, I implore you to open a case at WP:EW/N or WP:ANI, because if my edits on Steve Scalise are actually considered edit warring, then I will no longer be contributing to this project. Best.- MrX 13:34, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
For future reference

Making note of the fact that my request for a retraction, explanation or action was met with a curt dismissal.- MrX 22:09, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


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Thank you.- MrX 15:24, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

And the WP:AE posting as well. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Sandstein the notice above was made by using the ds/alert|BLP template subst, but I wrote BLP rather than blp for the argument to the template. I have updated the alert, so the notice now correctly points to the decision. That template links to a special edit confirmatoin window asking to make sure you aren't duplicating notices. I wonder if it would be possible to make the template also check for an incorrect argument somehow. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


Replying here so as to not clutter the AE post. The very first word of WP:BLPSPS is "Never". That seems pretty hard and fast to me. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Is there anything in my comment "WP:BLPSPS advises against using blogs as BLP sources, however it was my recollection that this was not a hard rule,..." that would lead you to believe that I don't grasp that at this point? We shouldn't castigate people for making honest mistakes, especially after they admit such.- MrX 18:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I was not meaning to castigate, I interpreted your statement to mean you still held that opinion that it wasn't a hard and fast rule, so I was trying to clarify. I think its likely neither of our reports are going to go anywhere. I hope we can continue to work together productively in the article.
My main issue with the article is this. Imagine this was something about Obama, that an anonymous poster put on a marxist website saying obama did something a decade ago, then a random blog (conservative treehouse?) picked it up, and then that was echoed out by Fox, NRO and other conservative media. What would your argument be about the ultimate sourcing of this and how that affects the entirety of the issue.
For a (real) analogous issue, how much coverage does Obama launching his Senate career from the house of a terrorist get in his article? Oh, I think the answer is none, yet that was also covered by numerous reliable sources. (And yes there are extenuating circumstances and people who disagree on characterization. Just like this issue)
I'm not saying we shouldn't cover this incident. But there is a pretty clear double standard on whats notable/reliable for a conservative vs whats notable/reliable for a liberal, and it shouldn't dominate the article like it does now. It needs to get trimmed to 2-3 sentences. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
I consider you a valuable editor and would like us to be able to edit collaboratively. You tend to be considerable more aggressive with reverting than me, which makes it less likely that my edits stick. I would be willing to retract the 3RR/N report if you would agree to limit yourself to no more than one revert in a 24 hour period, of any non-vandalism edit made in the previous seven days. I would of course agree to hold myself to the same restriction.
FWIW, I agree that there is a systemic bias with regard to conservative viewpoints on Wikipedia, which results in somewhat of a double standard. The way to change that is with solid reasoning, consensus building, and compromise. Anyway, let me know what you think of a mutual 1RR restriction on this article for, let's say, the next 30 days.- MrX 19:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Are you proposing a general 1RR, or a "Azrel-style" specific edit 1RR? Gaijin42 (talk) 19:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Not exactly. Here would be the rules:
  1. The restriction applies to Steve Scalise
  2. Only one non-minor revert (with the sole exception of reverting unambiguous vandalism) is allowed in any rolling 24 hour period
  3. A revert counts as any edit which removes, substantially changes, or alters the meaning of any edit made by any editor in the previous 7 days (168 hours)
  4. Fixing grammar/spelling/punctuation, formatting, fixing refs, and other gnomish edits do not count as revert (removing entire citations counts as revert)
  5. The 1RR restriction would end until 00:00 GMT on the 31st day from when we agree on this
  6. Proxy editing is obviously not allowed
  7. The restriction can be lifted, or extended, at any time, by unanimous mutual agreement
  8. Violation may be reported for admin action
You in?- MrX 19:57, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sure, why not. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Great! I will notify EW/N.- MrX 20:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Thank you for writing Hügelkultur! Bananasoldier (talk) 21:23, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
My pleasure. Thanks for the cookie!- MrX 21:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Notice of Reliable Sources Noticeboard discussion[edit]

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Gaming the system[edit]

Please stop gaming the system. (talk) 19:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Pardon me?- MrX 19:31, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

unreliable sources?[edit]

Why did you put that warning on the page; Skinny Molly? Wiki Elvis (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

It's not actually a warning, it's a cleanup notice. Their purposes are to foster improvement of the encyclopedia by alerting editors to changes that need to be made. Cleanup tags are meant to be temporary notices that lead to an effort to fix the problem, not a permanent badge of shame to show that you disagree with the article or a method of warning the readers against the article.
I placed it because some of the article's sources don't quite meet our standard for reliability (see WP:RS). For example is a self-published source. Several are commercial websites, so of course their reviews are somewhat suspect. Some appear to be blogs, and some seem to merely exist to promote certain artists, possibly generated from press releases. Anyway, it's not a substantial issue, but a few more solid sources would be helpful. Here is one source that would probably be considered reliable. and possibly this one. - MrX 14:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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The article I created earlier[edit]

Hello there,

I got your message about me creating that article about List of offenders executed in the United States in 2015. I saw that you said it may not confirm to Wikipedia's guidelines. I also want to say I'm sorry if I did violate any rule while I made the article. Let me tell you about it. I don't know if you know it, but today was someone's execution, and I made that article because it was the first execution of 2015, and I wanted to get the article created before someone else did. Again, I do say I am sorry if I did violate a rule. I am a little new to this.--Bradley1679 (talk) 02:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

That's OK—it's not a problem. The main reason for my message was to provide you with a link to the guidelines for creating new articles, as well as links to other Wikipedia policies and guidelines. The main thing is that you need sources, especially when living people are involved (no pun intended).- MrX 02:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Peru women's national basketball team[edit]

Can you please explain why you think this might be a hoax? The new user has created several articles, templates, etc., all apparently revolving around the same thing. If this is all bogus, then the situation needs to be addressed beyond just one or two articles tagged for deletion. I'm assuming FIBA Americas is a reliable source, although I confess my knowledge about sports is next to nil.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

The source does not seem to have anything to do with the Peru/Columbia/Ecuador women's national basket ball team. Call it a gut instinct, but I suspect that the user who created the articles is this user Unfortunately, I have limited time right now to fully investigate.- MrX 17:32, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the SPI and am not familiar with that particular master. However, the Peruvian source seems to support the article. That's the only one I really looked at. The source starts off talking about the men's basketball team, but lower down it mentions the women's.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:41, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I see it now. I've reverted myself.- MrX 20:00, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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It was the response to this: . I was going to go back and inform everyone that responded to that thread, but that might be overkill. But that is why.Casprings (talk) 03:07, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

OK. Since I'm not involved in the article, I'm going to sit this one out.- MrX 03:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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Heather Bresch[edit]

Hi Mr. X. I noticed that you were active on the BLP noticeboard and was wondering if you could chime in on an issue regarding this page. I am affiliated with the article-subject. Currently almost all of Wikipedia's content on Bresch is regarding a controversy, which also has its own page. I raised the issue here on the BLP noticeboard. While there seems to be consensus the controversy is excessive (also here), no actual edits have taken place and I suspect it will soon be archived off the board without action. If you could take a look it would be greatly appreciated! CorporateM (Talk) 00:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

I looked at it. The controversy section is too large compared with the rest of the bio. Your draft seems to be an improvement overall. It sounds like you will have to discuss the content piece by piece on the talk page in order to gain support for your copy edits.- MrX 02:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
What I had suggested on the Talk page was implementing the majority of my draft and leaving the controversy separate for individual discussion. Does that sound ok? Nomoskedasticity, who I believe originally authored the excessive controversy, hasn't responded to that suggestion for over a week. I kinda thought he/she might have been waiting for input from others, like FreeRange who commented, but said they were too busy to get more involved. CorporateM (Talk) 16:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
It sounds OK to me. I am also too thinly spread to get involved in the article.- MrX 16:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Citing visual info from an archived TV episode[edit]

Hi MrX, Another day, another question. I'm currently working on fixing up the article on Mary Catherine Lamb, and one of the best sources for otherwise obscure info about her is a Public Broadcasting episode which has been archived online. I understand, of course, that anything we hear during the video can be cited, but I'm wondering about citing what we see. This is especially important in the case of Mary Catherine, an artist whose entire living space reflected her artistic interests. So, for example, since the video shows her workroom with its many shelves and drawers full of the fabric pieces and findings she turned into quilts, would it be acceptable to say in the article, "Mary Catherine's attic workroom was packed with vintage fabrics and findings of every kind which she used to make her quilts" and then cite the video? In other words, can we use what we see even if it isn't described in words? Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this! Ailemadrah (talk) 23:41, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ailemadrah. I'm not certain, but I would think that you describing what you saw on the video may be considered original research. In the example you raise, it would probably be OK (per WP:COMMONSENSE and WP:BLUE) to say that "Mary Catherine's attic workroom contains fabrics and findings which she used to make her quilts", if the video identifies the room as an attic workroom and you see here assembling quilts in there. However, in your construct, "packed" is an opinion (yours). "Finding of every kind" is not really encyclopedic wording. It would be better to say "a variety of findings". "Vintage fabrics" could be a problem, unless it can supported by another source.- MrX 02:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Understood. Thank you, as always. Ailemadrah (talk) 02:40, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Leelah's Law[edit]

30 days?! When the hell are discussions required to stay open for 30 days?! Standard deletion discussion length is 7 days, and I see no reason whatsoever to keep it open longer than people are commenting. I know very well there is a discussion going on, as I started it. But there is also no reason to require an admin, as unlike deletion, no admin permissions are required to make changes. I'll leave the discussion a few more days to see if anyone else comments (not stagnation for three more weeks), but there is a clear consensus that the topics are related and should be merged, and moreover this article has zero unique information that warrants a separate article. Reywas92Talk 20:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

They are not the hell your whales. It's best to wait until a discussion goes stale for at least a few days and then allow an admin or experienced (uninvolved) editor to assess consensus and close the discussion. Here is the applicable guide: WP:MERGE#Step 4: Close the merger discussion and determine consensus. By my count three editors have simply WP:VAGUEWAVED to WP:TOOSOON, which is an essay that simply reinforces WP:GNG. Three arguments state that the petition is not as popular as other petitions and that there's "nothing to suggest there will be any independent long-term significance to the petition" which is a fallacious argument (see WP:NOTTEMP). One argument is from an SPA, and probably a meatpuppet or a logged out user (sock). Like AfD discussions, merge discussions are WP:NOTVOTE. At this point, there is no consensus for a merge, so it makes sense to wait for others to comment to see if a consensus emerges. By the way, this does not seem to be a flash in the pan. Here is a source published yesterday: Christian Post.- MrX 21:38, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Woxsen School of Business[edit]

Sorry about that, I'm new to editing Wikipedia. We were trying to follow on the lines of the Indian School of Business page. You mentioned verifiable sources other than the school's website, however, on Indian School of Business's page, the reference for the Student Clubs is their own website. I was wondering if we could do the same for our Academic Courses. Sorry again about the errors made.Abhijit3288 (talk) 04:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Abhijit3288. You can use the school's website as a reference, but you need other reference for verification. Notice that Indian School of Business has a number of newspaper, magazine and book references (see WP:V and WP:RS). Most importantly, the article should be written in concise, factual manner without marketing language. For example, statements like "The Woxsen Trade Tower is essentially an incubator where students’ business ideas are primed to create long-term impact" is not encyclopedic. Nor is "Classroom interactions with world-renowned academics and seasoned practitioners will help students acquire the perspective that is needed to appreciate the intricacies of business." Anything that you might find in a mission or vision statement doesn't belong. A long list of faculty members is not needed either. Phrases like " state of the art", "path defining experience", "insightful new ideas", "action-based experiential learning", and "High-end content" are PEACOCK phrases and are not informative for our purposes. Here are some examples of good university articles: Category:GA-Class Universities articles. I hope this helps.- MrX 14:47, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Right, Thank sure does help.Abhijit3288 (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


I was not the one who accused you of pediophagia. Really! <g> Collect (talk) 16:02, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I think I'll just stick with the Vicia faba and a juice box. Smiley123.png - MrX 16:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

editing Daniel O'Keeffe (commissioner)[edit]

Thanks for helping with Daniel O'Keeffe (commissioner). However I have a couple of questions: 1. Is it possible to change the title Daniel O'Keeffe (jurist)? Commissioner is not the best way to identify him imho. He is a former High Court judge, eminent lawyer etc. 2. I am puzzled why someone removed the external links and categories. I am not going to do re-do them as it took me hours to put them together. Cheers Ballyeagh (talk) 17:13, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. Sure, you can move the article, which is how articles are renamed. All you have to do is go to the article, hover over the "More" drop down menu near the top right of the page and select "move". You then just replace the word commissioner with the word jusrist, add a brief note in the reason field and click the move "page button".- MrX 17:22, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Alain Hubert: translation of an FR page[edit]

Thanks for your review of the translation I made of the Alain Hubert FR page in English. I am trying to improve it as per your remarks. I assumed that, since pages exist in FR and NL, it would be worthy of an EN translation. What could would be your suggestions to improve the sources I have referenced along with the page? I have tried to reference neutral and verifiable sources but maybe I am misunderstanding something. Any pointers would be much appreciated.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Intpolarfoundation (talkcontribs)

Hi Intpolarfoundation. Thank you for making the translation. If you click on the links in the "This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the article, you will be able to find out about what is considered reliable sources and how notability is determined. WP:CITE will tell you how to include footnote citations so that readers know which references support specific content. this, for example not a source, but merely a link to buy the subjects books. It's considered spam. This source doesn't discuss the subject, so it shouldn't be included. I hope that helps.- MrX 16:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

It does. Removed non relevant links and added references in context as requested. Feel free to suggest other improvements and thanks for helping out a newbie. Do you go back and check the article yourself and remove warnings accordingly, do I remove some of them myself? How does this work?user: Intpolarfoundationuser talk:Intpolarfoundation 11:20, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Anyone can add or remove cleanup templates, as long as it's done in good faith. Currently, the vast majority of the references in the article are closely connected sources. Other than watching for vandalism and WP:BLP violations, I will probably not edit the article any further.- MrX 15:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

CFAA speedy deletion[edit]


Thank you for the comments, and my apologies if I violated any terms. It should be noted however that this seems like a notable association given that it is the premier association dedicated to the corporate finance profession. After much research it is apparent that no other affiliations, organization or group is solely dedicated to this industry - a notable accomplishment in my mind.

With kind regards JCPerty (talk) 00:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi JCPerty. Notability (for Wikipedia's purposes) is determined by independent, reliable source. If you can find some books, magazines, journals or even newspapers that discuss the organization in detail, you can cite them in the article. That said, it seems implausible that an organization founded mere weeks ago would be notable at all. - MrX 00:56, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sir, I kindly disagree - I have literally no vested interest in this association whatsoever but on principal, there are other associatons with less notability on wikipedia - why were they approved? for example Such a site seems to self-promote, listing its meetings, services etc. My article merely highlights it's notable quality, the fact that it is the premier association dedicated solely to corporate finance? A second example would be where their source is a press release written likely by someone with ties to the association. For the sake of providing accurate, relevant and novel information to the wikipedia community, would you kindly remove your speedy deletion tag?

With kind regards JCPerty (talk) 01:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

What is it that you disagree with? That the subject doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines? You claim that the organization is the "premier association dedicated solely to corporate finance?" According to who? Please follow some of the links in the welcome message on your user talk page to get a better idea of what Wikipedia's purpose is, and to learn about our content policies and guidelines. I am not inclined to remove the speedy deletion because there is no evidence that the subject is notable.- MrX 01:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

According to the Association's website and LinkedIn company page, two sources that seems to be relevant on other wikipedia articles. I disagree with your tag specifically in that the source, the nonprofit's webpage other pages (no writeups from what I can see thus far), provide membership solely to those working in corporate finance. Have you seen another association offering the same? I have not which is why I wrote the article and considered it to be notable. I realize such an organization may not be relevant or particularly notable to all, especially those without a particular interest in this field, but its a major deal to those who have followed the profession closely (corporate finance departments are in every company in every city around the world). Would you kindly reconsider your tag? Kind regards JCPerty (talk) 01:49, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, no. Would you please read some of the policies and guidelines that I suggested, then come back with any questions about how they apply to this article? Thanks.- MrX 01:56, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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I need help after messing up some Wikimedia uploads[edit]

Hi MrX – Apologies for needing you to help me out of a mess again. This time I uploaded some images for the article Mary Catherine Lamb using Upload Wizard, and since the Wizard process doesn't come with a warning about lack of proper license, I didn't realize I'd done something wrong until I heard from a Wikimedia user that he'd tagged the images for deletion. Now I understand that I need to get permission from the photographer using the Declaration of Consent template, including the appropriate license, and then have him forward that permission to OTRS. This will fortunately be easy to do, as I am acquainted with the photographer, but there will be a delay since he's currently abroad. I would like to ensure that the images won't be deleted at the end of this week, but the procedure as described on the Commons:Email templates page doesn't seem to allow me to do what Jarekt suggested, per this Q&A:

Just one more question: will the images automatically be deleted on January 30th, one week after they were tagged with the warning? Or do I have time to wait for the photographer to return to the U.S. so I can get his permission per the OTRS requirements? Thanks again! --Ailemadrah (talk) 04:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
The will be deleter if they do not have license template, but they can stay much longer with a license and the OTRS pending template if you know the license. --Jarekt (talk) 04:40, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

How do I accomplish this, given that the images are already uploaded and already tagged for deletion? I don't know where/how to insert the license and OTRS pending notice. Thanks in advance for your wise counsel! --Ailemadrah (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

The instructions are here: Commons:OTRS#If you are not the copyright holder. You will have to put {{OTRS pending}} after |Permission= in the Information section for the file. The copyright owner will need to send an email to the OTRS email address, listing each uploaded file and explicitly agree to offer each photo freely under a compatible license (Usually Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0). The copyright owner will still own the copyright, but anyone will be able to use the photo for almost any purpose, including commercial use. If OTRS doesn't receive an email from the copyright owner in a reasonable amount of time, the file will be deleted.
Let me know if you have any other questions, although I am not an expert on Commons processes.- MrX 23:20, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks, as always!! I'll get to this later today. --Ailemadrah (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
A little correction: Images will be deleted unless they have a license, so adding it should be a first order of businesses. --Jarekt (talk) 15:14, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Reopening of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dancing with the Stars (Lebanese season 3)[edit]

You were, of course, quite right. It was careless of me, and thank you for correcting my mistake. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:42, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I wasn't sure if I should re-open the AfD or start a new one. - MrX 13:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Actually, I think it might have been better to start a new one, but I don't see it as making a lot of difference either way, and certainly just closing the case without opening a new one was not a good thing to do. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


Sorry bout that, didn't notice that it was a bundled deletion discussion. Again sorry. ///EuroCarGT 05:44, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

That's OK. I'm adding a conspicuous note.- MrX 05:47, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Please sign your comment[edit]

Hey, thanks for participating the discussion on deletion of Ahmad Keshvari. I think your forgot to sign your post. Mhhossein (talk) 19:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Oops. Thanks.- MrX 19:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Recentism and Undue Weight[edit]

Why? Wikipedia is not a newspaper and there is no evidence of long term notability or even that it is controversial just because a couple of people start crying about it. Some of your edits appear to be quite transparent in your goals. Arzel (talk) 23:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I really don't need to be reminded that Wikipedia is not a newspaper, nor does it apply. It's notable now. Don't you think it is extraordinary that Fox News would do something as taboo as publishing a video and stills of a man being burned to death? Don't you think that it's notable that they would do so while transparently politicizing the incident? - MrX 23:53, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Your answer speaks volumes about your purpose here. There is no evidence that this has long lasting notability, your statement has no weight. The event was political to begin with even if your man is trying to hide the fact behind stupid words and a cluelessness about reality. Arzel (talk) 00:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Arzel, this is exactly the kind of behavior that you were warned about in a recent ArbCom case. Please tone it down a few notches. MastCell Talk 00:14, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Arzel: I really resent your comment. Unlike you, I actually create content, help new editors, remove vandalism and spam, improve new articles, participate in policy discussions, assist on noticeboards, ferret out sockpuppets, and contribute my intellectual property to these projects. You have a lot of nerve questioning my "purpose". Now kindly stay off my talk page.- MrX 00:17, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to delete an article due to unreliable sources?[edit]

May you please give an explanation for your edit on Culture of Volume? I have five very reliable sources. And it's acceptable article as well as Kintsugi (album). So give me an explanation please. // User:Psemmler

I didn't propose it for deletion. I merely tagged it as possibly having notability issues per WP:NALBUM. Not all of your sources are reliable. In fact, it looks like this is the only potentially independent reliable source. To meet notability guidelines, the album should have "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." Alternatively, it may be notable if it meets one or more of the other six criteria.- MrX 18:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Need your help at Environment_and_sexual_orientation[edit]

Hello MrX, I am sorry to bother you, but there is a disagreement over which wording to use in

Environment_and_sexual_orientation article. Could you come and give us your opinion please?

Basically, I am proposing to update a sentence in the lead section as follows:

  • from: "The American Psychological Association and Royal College of Psychiatrists acknowledge scientists' beliefs that sexual orientation is caused by a combination of biological and postnatal environmental factors, but ..."
  • to: "The American Psychological Association and Royal College of Psychiatrists consider that sexual orientation is caused by a combination of biological and postnatal environmental factors, but ..."

The proposed change is based on the [latest statement] from Royal College of Psychiatrists which states: "The Royal College of Psychiatrists considers that sexual orientation is determined by a combination of biological and postnatal environmental factors."

An editor, Flyer22, objects to this update, and suggested me to wait for your comment.

Thank you in advance. (talk) 18:22, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

This is not a topic area where I have any expertise, but I will stop by the article when I'm a little more lucid and see if I can offer any insight.- MrX 18:38, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

My review[edit]

Did I review Treasure Chest Marketplace? —George8211 / T 10:51, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Your Twinkle settings are probably configured to automatically mark new pages as reviewed when you add tags to an unreviewed page.- MrX 13:00, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks that makes sense now. —George8211 / T 19:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppet Case[edit]

Everybody who reviewed and commented on your evidence rejected it. If you're really surprised that the case was rejected, I suggest you seek the advice of someone you trust and respect to review the case and your conduct. I've seen you make some good contributions in various areas, but your conduct in this matter suggests you do not understand the issues or the norms of behavior applicable to the situation. Best wishes. SPECIFICO talk 21:34, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

SPECIFICO, I'm sure you mean well, but between your rather insistent pleas for me to present probabilistic evidence, your rabid defense of Steeletrap in all situations, and your accusations of bad faith, I'm sure you will understand why your advice here is neither sought, nor welcomed. Cheers.- MrX 21:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

See WP:NPOV/N[edit]

You changed from citing BLP issues to NPOV issues so that board is where those get discussed. Cheers. Collect (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm not following you. Would you please elaborate?- MrX 00:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
You asserted the CSM made a POV claim - BLP/N is the wrong place for that new complaint, so I had to ask at that board. Cheers. Collect (talk) 01:23, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh dear. Did you not read my suggestion about keeping the discussion on the article talk page? I don't see how three separate discussions about one minor content dispute is helpful at all.- MrX 01:27, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
And I also note that once you do the POV tagging maneuver, that NPOV/N is a proper venue. Cheers. Collect (talk) 01:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
The article talk page is the correct venue: "Before you post to this [NPOV/N] page, you should already have tried to resolve the dispute on the article's talk page." I just don't think you liked what three other editors were telling you.- MrX 01:43, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Nicholas Edward Alahverdian[edit]

It's been deleted on those grounds once today, and then was restored as being significantly expanded from the previous version. I've never heard of the person and never saw the old version...but just thought I'd point that out if you hadn't noticed. --Onorem (talk) 23:54, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I guess an admin will see that it's a different version and decline the CSD.- MrX 23:58, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Peace Barnstar Hires.png The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thanks for your contribution in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmad Keshvari. AliAkar (talk) 14:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you AliAkar. I appreciate your kind recognition.- MrX 23:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

American politics amended by motion[edit]

You may be interested that the Arbitration Committee has amended American politics by motion as follows:

Arzel (talk · contribs) is indefinitely prohibited from editing any page about or making any edit related to the politics of the United States, broadly construed, across all namespaces. This restriction is enforceable by any uninvolved administrator per the standard provisions. Arzel may request reconsideration of this remedy twelve months after the passing of this motion.

For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 23:52, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Lixxx235. - MrX 00:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

The Stalls of Barchester Cathedral[edit]

Hello, you recently reviewed the article I created The Stalls of Barchester Cathedral. I've responded to the issues you raised and explained my feelings on notability on the talk page, but because I'm new to Wikipedia I wanted to follow up and make sure that I addressed fully the issues you raised. Please let me know if there's anything else I need to change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KWWight (talkcontribs) 02:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi KWWight. I recommend improving sources on the articles already created, rather than creating a lot of unsourced stubs. The book itself, and closely connected sources, do not make for good references. Please also see Golden rule.- MrX 13:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Unreviewed Shinsei_(cigarette)[edit]

Hi there, you left me a message on my talk page letting me know you unreviewed a page I marked as reviewed. That's no problem but I would like to know what your reason was for unreviewing it. Maybe I did something wrong. Cheers. FelisLeoTalk! 13:16, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I unreviewed the article so that it would remain in the queue so that other editors could help determine if it is a notable topic or should be deleted. The article is extremely short and has no references. At a minimum, cleanup tags should be placed on an article such as this before marking it as reviewed. Here are a couple of resources that may be helpful: WP:NPP#Patroller checklists and WP:NPRSCHOOL.- MrX 13:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

این نشان برای شما![edit]

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thank you sir!

I like you mrx arta 19:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


hey hello,

Could you read the description of Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard again. Then establish that there is no serious attempt towards constructive dialog[7] And lastly familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers (aka WP:BITE) if you are not already familiar with that guideline. These are the standards, I suggest you live up to them.

If you have any questions I'm all ears.

Thanks, (talk) 02:42, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

There's a lot going on in your comment. First, I don't understand your claim about "no serious attempt towards constructive dialog" followed by a link to the Editor Interaction Analyzer. Second, you're not a newcomer. Third, I didn't bite you—I warned you. Fourth, when someone objects to your moderation of a talk page post, it's usually not a good idea to persist.- MrX 02:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

You wrote a response, first you say there is a lot going on in my posting, then you claim you don't understand what I wrote, then you tell me that there is a link in my posting, after this you conclude I'm not the newbie I'm talking about and finally you mention to have objection to my objection. It is usually not a good idea to have objection to something without explaining what it is you are objecting to.

Are you objecting to wp:bite? To the notice board description? wp:civil perhaps? Or is it that you are just objecting for the sake of objecting?

Do explain why it is desirable to have topics for the purpose of attacking new users on a notice board about articles.

Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard : This page is for requesting input on possible fringe theories. Post here to seek advice on whether a particular topic is fringe or mainstream, or whether undue weight is being given to fringe theories.

  • Questions related to articles on fringe theories may also be posted here.
  • The purpose of this board is not to remove any mention of fringe theories, but rather to ensure that neutrality is maintained.
  • Familiarize yourself with the fringe theories guideline before reporting issues here.
  • To aid in promoting constructive dialogue with advocates of a fringe theory, {{talk fringe|fringe theory name}} may be added to the top of the corresponding talk page.

This doesn't fit the bill in my view.

If you don't agree please explain how WP:BITE doesn't apply to you. Until you satisfy my curiosity I will continue to refactor.

Wikipedia:Refactoring talk pages : "Removal of off-topic, uncivil, unclear, or otherwise distracting material"

btw, you don't have to tell me what I wrote. (talk) 15:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Sameer Paudwal[edit]

I am almost positive that this guy is also a sockpuppet, his way he types and his articles as well have been identical to this user: wanted to point this out to you! Wgolf (talk) 16:42, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will keep an eye out for future socks.- MrX 22:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)