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[edit]Draft question for edit?
[edit]@Koavf: How long does it take for the wikipedia I edit will be active because it's on DraftJohnnysxm (talk) 01:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Johnnysxm. I assume that you are referring to Draft:Boni Faas, which you have not submitted for review. Please do not submit it at this time. This is an unreferenced biography of a living person, and it is policy that any such article must be properly referenced. Please read Your first article for information about the improvements that you need to make before submitting the draft for review. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnnysxm: In particular, please review Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles and provide multiple independent reliable sources to demonstrate that Boni Faas meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:08, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@GoingBatty yes Boni Faas meet the criteria for wikipedia as musician — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnysxm (talk • contribs) 03:25, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnnysxm: You probably right, but the article must cite reliable sources so reviewers, other editors, and readers can see that it is true. Before you submit the article, find and add two or three really good references that show notability. This is easy to mess up, so please take a look at Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability) to avoid getting hassled by reviewers. -Arch dude (talk) 04:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: Boni Faas meet the criteria for musician and should be submitted for reviewJohnnysxm (talk) 03:29, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude, but how to do it I'm so new to this, what I exactly information I need to add I haven't add enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnysxm (talk • contribs) 05:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnnysxm: Glad you have multiple independent reliable sources! I have added a References section to Draft:Boni Faas for you with three asterisks. You can add your sources as URLs there and we can look at them for you. GoingBatty (talk) 05:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@GoingBatty I went to Draft Boni Faas I see the references and I added the sources, can you please check it to see if I did it right. Thank youJohnnysxm (talk) 07:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnnysxm: Sorry but no, it is not done correctly. GB provided you with a refs section and three asterisks where you should just add the URLs of the sources. I have restored rthe page to the last edit that he made. Please have another go.
- Please do not start additional threads here on the same topic and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 08:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- There are external links, but no references. Here for example is one sentence: "He is signed to Team Billionaire Music and SDYP The Movement." Provide evidence, please, that he is signed to Team Billionaire Music and to SDYP The Movement. -- Hoary (talk) 08:35, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Draft: Boni Faas references edit
[edit]@GoingBatty please check Draft Boni Faas if I did what you ask me to do, and yes his sign to Team Billionaire Music, but you wont find this label on the web, but you will find his other label he sign to SDYP the MOVEMENT, I added 3 URLs to prove who he is.
- You haven't yet done what Eagleash asked you to do: "do not start additional threads here on the same topic" -- I've had to move this -- "and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.)" If you can't provide a reliable reference for the assertion that he's signed to Team Billionaire Music then the article can't assert that he's signed to Team Billionaire Music. Ditto for anything that the article says. -- Hoary (talk) 13:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnnysxm: You added three reference to prove who he is. However, your goal should be to prove that he meets Wikipedia's standards of notability for musicians by providing multiple independent reliable sources, such as magazines, newspapers, and critical reviews. Faimhub is a place to upload a press kit, SDYP is his record label, and alhtmizik is his official website, so none of these are independent. Keep working on it! GoingBatty (talk) 14:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Merged thread
@GoingBatty SDYP is not his own label, he just sign to it, and so the others. He just feature on them like a Magazine, what if I send you 1 magazine of him? Will that be enough, cuz I see him on a MagazineJohnnysxm (talk) 14:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- If he has been featured in a mainstream magazine then that could help. A link would be best, but sources do not have to be online. Wikipedia requires in-depth coverage in sources independent of him. I.e not by him or persons associated with him. Again, please do not start new threads on the same topic. As previously suggested you should study WP:NOTABILITY, WP:NMUSIC and WP:YFA. If this artist does not meet the criteria you may well be wasting your time trying to create an article about him. Not every musical act qualifies for a Wikipedia article. Eagleash (talk) 15:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnnysxm: Additional suggestions:
- Continue this discussion in this section. Do not click the "New section" tab.
- Please read Template:Ping to learn how to use Wikipedia's equivalent of the @mention feature, like
{{ping|GoingBatty}}
- Since Faas signed to the SDYP label, the SDYP website is not an independent source. SDYP is in the business of promoting Faas to make money.
- Do not send anything to me - add it to the draft.
- One magazine is a start, but to demonstrate that Faas meets Wikipedia's standards of notability for musicians, your goal should be to provide "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician". GoingBatty (talk) 15:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text
[edit]Post Secondary Enrollment Options Please help with footnotes. I thought I understood how to do this but I'm clearly making some mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minnesotaed (talk • contribs) 04:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Minnesotaed: After reviewing the edits you made to Post Secondary Enrollment Options, here are some suggestions for you:
- Always sign your talk space posts with
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so your signature automatically is attached. - An article needs only one
{{reflist}}
template, in the References section. - Don't start a new paragraph with a space, or it will look like this:
- Always sign your talk space posts with
This has a space in front of it
- If you're going to use
{{cite web}}
for your references, they have to end with}}</ref>
- If you're going to use
- Your edits were reversed, so you can try again slowly - make an edit, click Show preview, and keep fixing until it looks good, then click Publish changes. Or, you can make suggestions at the article talk page - Talk:Post Secondary Enrollment Options - and another editor can help you. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 06:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)@Minnesotaed:
Fixed The 'reflist' template goes immediately after the 'references' hdg; you do not need to add it within the content as well. If you have not already done so please review the guide to adding references for how to do so correctly as there were also several formatting errors. Do you have a connection to the subject? If so you must read WP:COI and WP:PAID (the latter is mandatory under the terms of use) and make the necessary declarations. Also your username may imply 'corporate' or shared use, which is not permitted. You can request a change at WP:UNC. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Create own wikipedia
[edit]I want to create my own wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahul Paria (talk • contribs) 05:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- If you wish to create an article about yourself, this is not what Wikipedia is for; it is not a form of social media. Please see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY for why this is discouraged and why this is not always a good idea. If you are notable in the Wikipedia sense, someone independent of yourself will, in due course, create an article based on what other people have, equally independently, witten about you in reliable sources. Eagleash (talk) 05:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- In particular, do not make a second attempt to convert an article about somebody else into an article about yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 08:29, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Edit warring
[edit]Hello, An Ip is vandalizing the page Wakefield, Massachusetts. I reported about this to admins but what to do about the page for now? Since, if I undo that Ip's edit, the Ip again inserts the same content in a few minutes. I know edit warring is discouraged on Wikipedia. So kindly suggest me what should I do? Lightbluerain (talk) 11:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reverting blatent vandalism isn't classed as edit warring. There is now some protection against non confirmed users for two days. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for your response. That user is blocked now. Btw, what kind of protection against non-confirmed users? Lightbluerain (talk) 12:04, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Lightbluerain, The article was semi protected. Users who aren't registered, or haven't made 10 edits over 4 days are unable to edit the article, but can edit the talk page. The policy is at WP:SEMI ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 12:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks. Lightbluerain (talk) 12:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Lightbluerain, The article was semi protected. Users who aren't registered, or haven't made 10 edits over 4 days are unable to edit the article, but can edit the talk page. The policy is at WP:SEMI ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 12:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for your response. That user is blocked now. Btw, what kind of protection against non-confirmed users? Lightbluerain (talk) 12:04, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Please help replacing the company logo
[edit]HI,
Trying a few times to replace our company logo with no success. Please help!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puls_(company)
Tried to upload here, it doesn't work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_of_Puls_Technologies.png
Not sure why it's so complicated..
All we want is to upload the same file without dots...
thanks! Puls Team — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayapuls (talk • contribs) 12:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Mayapuls:
Done by Ankry. Also, please review the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, and do not edit the article about your company directly. Instead, you can suggest edits on the article talk page - Talk:Puls (company) - and disclose your conflict. Thanks! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 14:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
contacting people
[edit]How can I contact a radio or tv talk show host? My fiancé is in a Tennessee prison and is being harassed by a European based, Jewish terrorist by telephoning other inmates and telling them to tell my fiancé different things, taping conversations we have on the prison phone system as my fiancé doesn't have a phone like others do there, and different other things are happening to him. He was imprisoned when he was 16 for something he did not do. They had no evidence and the only thing they got him for was word of mouth by a woman with a questionable reputation. We are attempting right now to get him exonerated. He is losing hope and is getting more frustrated by this terrorist. No one will help him. Please help me help him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.99.136 (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello. I'm sorry for your problems, but I'm afraid that this is the help desk for problems with editing Wikipedia. There is nobody here who can help you. --ColinFine (talk) 14:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
How to submit a page or article
[edit]Hi Guys,
Good day, I would just like to ask on how can I submit or upload a page or article on wikipedia?
Thanks,
Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt Lopez (talk • contribs) 13:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Creating a new article, Matt, is one of the toughest things to do here, not least because with the millions of existing articles, the number of genuinely notable topics to write about is no longer as big as it once was. For further help, read this: Help:Your first article. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello, Matt Lopez. Creating a new article is about the hardest task there is in editing Wikipedia, and I always suggest to new editors that they spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works before they even try. People who plunge straight in often have a very unhappy time, as they try to submit material which is totally inappropriate for Wikipedia, and then get understandably upset when it is rejected. Your draft Draft:Vilma Vitug is far from the worst attempt I have seen, but as it stands it has no chance of being accepted, because you have made the number 1 mistake that new editors make: you have, it seems written from what you know, instead of from what the reliable published independent sources say. The first step in creating an article - long before you write any words - is finding the places where people who have no connection with the subject, and unprompted by the subject, have chosen to write about the subject at some length, and been published by reputable publishers. One of the reasons you do this first is that if you can't find any such sources, then the subject is not notable in Wikipedia's terms, and any work you put into writing an article will be a waste of time.
- For your own benefit, please study your first article and notability before you spend any more time on your draft. --ColinFine (talk) 14:24, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Need help in order to submit a draft for reviewing and wanting to publish it as a main page
[edit]I've created a draft and wanted to submit it for a review as this step is mandatory to publish a draft as a main page. Please let me know about the same. Nehhz335 (talk) 16:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Nehhz335: You removed the "decline" message at the top of your draft. That has now been restored. If you believe the issues raised there have been addressed, you should click on at the bottom of the "decline" message. --MrClog (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Nehhz335 (edit conflict) Right now, your draft is not suitable as a Wikipedia article, and if you were to submit it, it would be rejected quickly. Your draft offers no sources to support its content. Wikipedia articles about people must do more than tell about the person. They must show with significant coverage in independent reliable sources how the person meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person or in this case, the definition of a notable actress. Not every person merits an article on Wikipedia. If the person does not have significant coverage by sources- coverage that goes beyond brief mentions, routine announcements, etc., they would not merit an article at this time. You may find it helpful to read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial- as successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia.
If you are able to make the needed improvements, you may submit your draft using Articles for Creation.Again, you should not submit it yet. 331dot (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)- Adjusting my post to account for MrClog's good information. 331dot (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- In the feedback messages, on the draft itself and on your user talk page, the words in blue are wikilinks to pages which will give you further advice, such as Help:Referencing for beginners. You need to read those pages and take account of them before you resubmit your draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:16, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
My entire editing history has been removed -- why and by whom?
[edit]Is it possible I could have done it myself without intending to? Shouldn't there be some kind of safeguard?
Is it possible to restore it? Please help.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EquitableCanine (talk • contribs) 17:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @EquitableCanine: Everyone can see your editing history at Special:Contributions/EquitableCanine. Could you please help us understand exactly what has been removed? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Article creation
[edit]How can i create an article in Greek wikipedia?As i checked there is no create new article button like in english wiki! Any help would be appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamoskampilis (talk • contribs) 18:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Gamoskampilis, I think the AfC is unique to the English Wikipedia (or at least, not a concept used in all languages). I thought it would be straightforward to point you to the Greek Help desk, but I failed to find it. S Philbrick(Talk) 18:29, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Gamoskampilis: In the Greek Wikipedia, type the name of the topic in the search box and click <Enter>. For example, if you search for "GoingBatty", the search results say "Δημιουργήστε τη σελίδα «GoingBatty» στη Βικιπαίδεια με επεξεργαστή κώδικα ή οπτικό επεξεργαστή (VE)!", which translates to "Create the "GoingBatty" page on Wikipedia with a code editor or optical processor (VE)!" with two links. Be sure you're following the Greek Wikipedia's guidelines and notability requirements, which may be different from the English Wikipedia. GoingBatty (talk) 18:32, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Attribution requirement leading to AfD
[edit]One Netha Hussain created an article Misinformation related to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India but failed to attribute content while copying from another wikipedia article. How can this be fixed. Surely there must be better ways to resolve this than deletion. --Cedix (talk) 19:44, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- For those who are interested, discussion can be made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Misinformation related to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India. GoingBatty (talk) 19:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Template
[edit]What is the correct template to use on the user pages of users who did these edits? There are {{uw-tdel1}}, {{uw-afd1}}, {{uw-blpprod1}}, {{uw-idt1}} and {{uw-speedy1}} but none is really accurate.Jonteemil (talk) 20:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: I think it's important to look at the recent history, not just one edit. The history at Zoe Boekbinder is edit warring. The Rollovers as business start-ups and West Bengal edits were examples of one editor adding a template and then removing it immediately, so no talk page note is necessary. GoingBatty (talk) 21:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: I agree with you completely however that was not my question. Of course I'm only refereing to the removals that are bad, often by the user that created the page.Jonteemil (talk) 21:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: Looking over Wikipedia:Template_index/User_talk_namespace, you could choose {{Uw-copyright-new}} and {{Uw-ewsoft}}. GoingBatty (talk) 21:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty: I agree with you completely however that was not my question. Of course I'm only refereing to the removals that are bad, often by the user that created the page.Jonteemil (talk) 21:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Why does this article have words Etymology 1 through 3?
[edit]https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/бытие — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moyprofile (talk • contribs) 21:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- This help desk is for questions regarding the encyclopedia Wikipedia. The article to which you refer is in the dictionary Wiktionary, which is a separate project, so if you have any questions you need to ask at wikt:, which has its own help desk at wikt:Help:Contents. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
misleading information regarding Mandaeans
[edit]Good Day This not the first time I read misleading information regarding Mandaeanism (which is my religion), first they are NOT Christian, neither John the Baptist was a Christian, and they considered him as teacher , neither a Christian or Jewish has the right to call them Christian, Second your editor to this subject obviously ignored regarding this religion, They created in ancient Israel and they have an ancient desipute with them, They don’t HATE Abraham, this very strong word to use, they just don’t regard him as one of there prophet All I am asking is your website to be more ethical regarding this subject And there is many modern studies regarding this religion, I think your editors need more education about our religion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.173.160 (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Help Desk! I'm sorry you found the Mandaeans article has some issues. The best place to report that is on the article talk page: Talk:Mandaeans. Providing reliable sources there would help our editors to improve the article. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:34, 3 May 2020 (UTC)