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Non-free images[edit]

While the majority of non-free content used on Wikipedia seems to be images, there are audio files, etc. also being used. So, it might be a good idea to tweak WP:TPG#Non-free images to "WP:TPG#Non-free files" or "WP:TPG#Non-free content" and revise the wording of that paragraph accordingly. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:27, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Good point, but I think it might be better to create a new anchor for that. Thinker78 (talk) 08:00, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

IP-hopping talk page removal[edit]

There is an IPV6 editor (who apparently has an account, but has decided to edit some articles while logged out) who used a specific IP to add a comment to Talk:List of Christian rock bands‎‎. Two different addresses, each claiming to be the same editor, has tried to remove the comment. I am interpreting WP:TPO as being the same address, not just the same ISP or geolocation and same IP range, and apparently so is another editor. I recognize WP:OWN is reserved for specific environments, but is this a possible extension? I could see ignoring it because V6 addresses change so frequently, but I just want to know if the editors of the guideline have comments or advice. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:13, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Working at Wikipedia requires a fair bit of common sense. The situation is that one IP address added a comment that is not critical to the discussions, and another similar IP address removed it soon after with an entirely plausible edit summary. How does the encyclopedia benefit by reverting the second IP? The fact is that IPs are people and are allowed to edit. Actually, IPs are encouraged to edit—it's how many of us started. Please revert your revert and leave the IP alone. And no, there is no need to edit the guideline. Johnuniq (talk) 21:38, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

is it acceptable for an editor to erase someone's post because it wasn't indented the way they wanted it to be?[edit]

User_talk:Dream_Focus#Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Editing_others'_comments I have someone arguing with me, denying they did anything wrong. Confirm please you can not erase someone's post because it wasn't indented how you wanted it and you claim someone might somehow get confused. The offending edits are [1] and [2] Dream Focus 21:09, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Personally, I'd be inclined to either fix the indent myself—and risk being taken to task for changing someone else's post, especially if I misread what post they were replying to—or leave a note on their talk page asking them to fix it themselves. Another approach might be to place a note under the offending post, pinging the user who didn't indent properly and specifically asking them to remove the note when they fix it. Removing the whole post is a little over the top, sure, but it doesn't seem like a huge deal unless they make a habit of it; everybody is entitled to exercise bad judgment once in a while. You've made them aware of your disapproval, the post has been restored, so what's left to say? RivertorchFIREWATER 22:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
I agree deletion was a poor choice in this instance. See also WP:REFACTOR NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
it's a bit rude on a user talk page and inadmissible anywhere else. WP:REFACTOR appears to be perfectly clear and precise. Maintaining the correct levels of indenting is quite appropriate. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Excessive all-caps shortcuts[edit]

Can an excessive use of shortcuts which are written in all-caps be considered shouting? If so, how much? wumbolo ^^^ 16:25, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Its sort of a leading question, as you have injected your own opinion into the question via the word "excessive". That's meant as constructive NPOV feedback. The important thing is.... who knows? We would be able to give better answers with an example of where you think it is a problem. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Examples required, please. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:44, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Help me[edit]

Collapsing this since discussion has been moved to editor's talk page as suggested

I've come across an editor who is repeatedly reverting my edits, deletes my comments (in violation of WP:TPO), and refuses to acknowledge my comments or have a conversation on their talk page or the article talk page and instead just deletes the comments. Does anyone know what recourse I can take for this?
Thank you — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 17:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Thatemooverthere. We can't really make editors communicate with us or engage in discussion when they don't want to; moreover, for the most part, they are allowed to remove posts or blank their user talk page per WP:BLANKING. At the same time, it is assumed that if they remove a post or blank their user talk page that they have read and understand everything posted on it; in other words, choosing not to respond does not mean they can claim that innocence later on if their editing is problematic. All you can do is properly notify them of issues and attempt to discuss things with them to resolve these issues. If the issues persist and the editor is not listening, then you can bring the matter up for discussion at the appropriate noticeboard.
The other editor, however, should not be removing your posts from Talk:Cannibal Corpse without providing a very good reason policy or guideline based reason for doing so. If they remove your article talk page posts again, just bring the matter up for discussion at WP:ANI. One thing I noticed is that it appears the editor is using WP:TWINKLE. Since they are still a new editor, they might not be familiar with how Twinkle works and when it should be used. This does not mean they are not responsible for any mistakes they make using Twinkle, but it might also indicate that they misunderstand WP:NOTVANDAL and just made a good-faith error here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for giving this ed a detailed answer, however I would have put it on their user talk page and just left a link to the thread here. This talk page should be for discussiing these guidelines, rather than mentoring or fielding complaints or doing WP:DR. But again, thanks for addressing this eds cry for help. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 21:47, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Good point NewsAndEventsGuy. Moving it there per your suggestion and collapsing this discussion. If I messed up the formatting, feel free to correct. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:23, 11 May 2018 (UTC)