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Schopenhauer, Wagner and Parsifal

Comments are welcome here. --Smerus (talk) 16:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Time to retire this project?

This project has been very successful, but has the time now come to retire it by making it into a task force of the Composers project? (It would also be possible to make it into a joint task force of Composers and Opera). --Kleinzach 23:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Please see the discussion here. --Kleinzach 01:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

New Template

I've made a new template at Template:Richard Wagner which I'm thinking of including in as many of the articles as possible. Is this a good idea, or are we happy with the Template:Wagner operas? I thought the new one might be a useful guide to 'all' Wagner articles which could sit at the bottom of the articles. Any objections?--Dogbertd (talk) 11:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Both look useful. Template:Wagner operas follows the Opera Project format and is only used on specific opera articles. --Kleinzach 12:38, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

'Das Ende' postponed

The discussion about making this project into a task force was inconclusive so it's all been left pending. (The much smaller and non-rating Mozart and Haydn project was made into a TF.) --Kleinzach 03:04, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Discontinuation of comments subpages

Maybe this is relevant to us: Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages? I think all our assessments are on comments subpages. What should we do about this? --Kleinzach 04:34, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Wagner pastiches at 'Featured Sounds'

The Siegfried Fantasie (which I've never encountered before) and Siegfried Funeral March and Finale (both in brass band arrangements) have been recommended as 'featured sounds', see here. Anyone like to add comments? (I've already removed the files from Siegfried and List of works for the stage by Wagner. --Kleinzach 07:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

The Siegfried items were withdrawn - but then reintroduced at FSC, see here. Not only that but Siegfried Funeral March and Finale has been put on the Götterdämmerung article and Der Ring des Nibelungen.
Das Liebesmahl der Apostel also has a 20-minute sound file (see here), in a 20-minute "instrumental arrangement" for brass band. --Kleinzach 07:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Dispute at 'Opera and Drama'

I invite anyone who may be interested to comment on the arcane, but apparently, (to its proposer), passionate dispute which has arisen here - Talk:Opera and Drama. --Smerus (talk) 14:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Thnaks for your contributions. I have withdrawn the word nationalist in the light of comments, (and not least because life is too short for me to put up with User:Christophmahler's stridency on my own talk-page, although that of course does not in itself mean he is wrong :-} ).--Smerus (talk) 04:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Recent additions to lede at Richard Wagner

What do people think of User:Major Torp's recent additions. I've already reverted once and want to see what other's think before doing so again.--Peter cohen (talk) 01:01, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

These very debatable (and contestably sourced) comments, in doubtful English, do not belong in the lede, the purpose of which is to provide a consensus outline.--Smerus 05:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
This guy seems somewhat relentless - furthermore the references he offers are either besides the point and/or of poor authority - and of course he is seriously misleading in claiming that W. called his operas 'dramas' - do we appeal to an administrator?--Smerus 20:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Cosima Wagner

I am about to embark on a major refurbishment and expansion of the Cosima article. I am listing my main sources in sandboxes here and here. If anyone wants to suggest additional sources, feel free to add a note to one of these sandboxes or on my talkpage. Brianboulton (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Opera banners

In the past, it has been the practice at WikiProject Opera not to double banner articles in our "daughter" projects, WikiProject Richard Wagner, and WikiProject Gilbert and Sullivan, although we do banner some G & S singers who have also had significant careers singing "regular" opera. Last December we had lengthy discussions on double-bannering, archived here with a suggestion to relax the "no double bannering" recommendation on our daughter projects which we are now revisiting. Articles bannered by these projects which are GA or FA appear in Portal:Opera regardless. But without the WPO banners these articles will not appear in three useful bot-generated pages: Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Popular pages, Portal:Opera/Featured content (Featured articles and Good articles), and Portal talk:Opera/Featured content (the expanded list which also includes former Good articles, Did you know? articles, and In the News articles). Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera#Double bannering Wagner and G & S project articles revisited. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

FA push for Richard Wagner

All right. I have started a discussion about getting the article to FA status and having it put on TFA on either one of these milestones: the 200th anniversary of his birth or the 130th anniversary of his death. Please comment and offer suggestions at Talk:Richard Wagner#FA push. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


Comments welcomed here to help resolve a disagreement. Thanks, --Smerus (talk) 19:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

FA nomination

Richard Wagner now nominated for FA, to be featured one hopes next year on his 200th birthday - see here.--Smerus (talk) 14:47, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Infobox for Richard Wagner article?

Please see the discussion here, and on the article talk page. --Kleinzach 00:52, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Willy Pogany illustrations for Wagner operas

Tannhäuser Strife of song

According to this page, Willy Pogany created a handsomely illustrated set of three books on Wagner operas between 1911 and 1913. Two images from it, Tannhäuser Strife of song and Parsifal the fool, have recently been uploaded to Commons, though neither are yet used in any Wiki site. Scarabocchio (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

There's also a YouTube video that offers a gallop through the Tannhäuser illustrations.[1] Everything would seem to be in the public domain. Scarabocchio (talk) 06:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


I post this here, as well as on the Opera project talk page. Users may like to know that, despite the controversiality surruroounding the infobox issue3, particualtly at present when editors' beahaviour re infoboxes is the subject of an arb case, Gerda Arendt has chosen this moment unilaterally to post an infobox on Götterdämmerung. I have reverted it, with my reasons at Talk:Götterdämmerung#Infobox.--Smerus (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Das Liebesverbot

As at Goetterdaemmerung, I am reverting to the previous template the infobox installed at Das Liebesverbot, the institution of which in politeness might have been discussed with the Opera and/or Wagner projects and with the main contributing editors to the article. As that wasn't undertaken, it can be carried out now on the article's talk page, and I am notifying the projects concerned.--Smerus (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


Please note here an edit war being pursued by an editor who has a strong desire to add details of a concert by a Finnish rock band.--Smerus (talk) 14:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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