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List of trains featured in Railroad Tycoon II is currently being discussed in the article's talk page. Feel free to join. AdrianGamer (talk) 04:28, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Rename the guideline?[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Consensus is against renaming the guideline.  · Salvidrim! ·  14:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Currently, it is a subpage guideline by WikiProject Video games. Shall it be a subpage for another page, like "Manual of Style" or something else? --George Ho (talk) 08:01, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

No. Nearly all large Wikiprojects have guidelines for their topic area and only their topic area, as opposed to main WP-space guidelines that apply universally regardless of topic. --MASEM (t) 23:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
This is not a particularly true statement IMO. WP:MED moved their stuff to the main WP-space and the MILHIST project has 1 (of its 3) guidelines in the main WP-space. --Izno (talk) 00:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
One argument in their favor is that (not to treat our VG work as less than it is), medicine and military history are core topics of an encyclopedia with a much wider target base, while VGs are generally more narrow focus and not as much a core topic. --MASEM (t) 15:00, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
I'd have no objection to a renaming, but I'm questionable about a few things:
  1. It currently covers style, notability, and format of video game articles, so there's no single name I can see it fitting under gracefully.
  2. The page should probably have a wider RFC to discuss points in the guidelines which may be questionable (though I know of none off the top of my head). Maybe this is that RFC?
--Izno (talk) 00:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I think it's fine where it is. It's certainly more of something that the Project maintains than a hard-won site-wide consensus. Feel free to suggest something specific with a specific rationale if you have something else in mind. – czar 14:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose - MOS pages apply to all articles. The VG guidelines are only specifcly for video game articles (or any other article that would fit in the VG project scope). Moving it to WP space would mean it would be too globally applied. --TL22 (talk) 00:11, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose a complete move as likely to be tedious. As soon as it goes site-wide, it becomes much more difficult to edit with changing times. It's easier to gain local consensus that site-wide consensus. Splitting off a notability guideline might be worthwhile, though. ~ RobTalk 00:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

List of River King video games Comment[edit]

Currently the article List of River King video games is the oldest article on Wikipedia marked for cleanup. It was tagged in 2007 and as not meeting this project's own article guidelines. Could someone more familiar with these guidelines than I review the article and assess? And if so could that individual then either remove the tag (if it meets guidelines), improve the article (if it doesn't), or indicate on its talk page what needs to be done so that someone else can take some action? Thank you! BarkeepChat/$ 15:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I've removed the tag, it was added here. The article has essentially been rewritten since then, but no one removed the tag. It was originally for a specific game title, and was later (3 years after tagging) moved to be a list article. -- ferret (talk) 15:19, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Challenge about inappropriate items[edit]

This discussion has flared up within the articles of Starcraft II's three games. and I've now come here to challenge against the "Cast list is inappropriate" rule... or at least have it changed to a degree. Maybe not everyone is interested in knowing who voiced who in a video game, and especially for specific game types this is unrequired. but as soon as I read the examplatory article from Bioshock I was shocked too. Yes it may be in prose, and yes it is backed by sources. But why this should be covered in a small sized book is completely beyond me. I've seen short lists of voice actors being removed in numerous articles lately with as reason it to be inappropriate content with reference to this page. But the guidelines as they stand today seem... odd at best. I'd like to propose to have the rules changed to include allowance of the short lists, as song as sources can back this up that listed poeple have indeed been responsible for voicing said characters from games. In accordance with a portion of the rules this should only be about the major characters that have a meaningful part in the short. (talk) 06:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I am not against the idea of having cast list, as long as it is supported by reliable sources. Though I don't think it is really necessary, given that we can simply link the voice actor/actress' name when the character they voiced is mentioned in the plot section. Something like "Artanis (Patrick Seitz) leads the Protoss armada in an invasion of their Zerg-infested homeworld of Aiur" AdrianGamer (talk) 14:15, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Question about External Links[edit]

Do we need to remove official website links in other languages if there's a English official website link? This is something that I need to know after Dissident93 (talk) removed Japanese links from Yakuza 5 and Yakuza 0 - PhilS1990 (talk) 08:00, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Did you read the guideline? A video game's official home page (provided by the developer or publisher) per WP:ELYES #1. Only the English version of the page should be included if there are multiple languages, per WP:NONENGEL, WP:ELMINOFFICIAL. If no English version exists, then the official page in the language of the country of first publication should be provided, but indicate that the site is in a foreign language. --Izno (talk) 12:21, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
If an official English language website exist for the game, then the Japanese/foreign language ones should be removed, per what Izno listed above. Apologies if I forgot to link to the guideline in the edit summary. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 12:37, 10 December 2015 (UTC)