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Things to review

Things to write

1. User:Hog Farm/Siege of Vicksburg
2. Engagement at Fredericktown - MHR article and unit history; needs trip to library
3. Fort Pemberton (Mississippi)
4. CSS Colonel Lovell

Current projects

1. CSS General Earl Van Dorn - Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/CSS General Earl Van Dorn

"Pasta" is watching my talk page. Or looking for an opportunity to step on my keyboard while I'm trying to edit. I don't know which.

Four Award

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Congrats! Next time it'll be a leaderboard spot. — Bilorv (talk) 22:55, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations - October 2022 MilHist Article Writing Contest

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		On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, I hereby award you the WikiChevrons, for placing first in the October 2022 Military History Article Writing Contest, achieving 40 points from six articles. Well done! Zawed (talk) 03:55, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

CSS Baltic

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022

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October promotion question

Hi -- I noticed the other day that John Raymond science fiction magazines, which you promoted in October, wasn't listed at WP:WBFAN; I thought this edit would fix it but it doesn't appear to have done so. Looking at the October log I think the problem is just that it was never added. Is that the only issue? Or are there other places it needs to be added? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:28, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yes, it's probably not adding it to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/October 2022 that caused it to be missed. I've put it in now and will need to adjust the FA stats page too; as to the promotion bot doing its thing at this late stage (which I assume will lead to WBFAN getting updated), we might be in the realm of black magic there -- Hawkeye...? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm curious how these things get spotted -- if a coord missed a step a few months ago, is there some count that is off somewhere that would allow it to be noticed? Or is it possible we're missing a couple of others in the logs? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:11, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Mike Christie - SandyGeorgia caught me making a similar step some time ago; I think the totals at WP:FAS provide a check figure. Hog Farm _Talk 15:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

OK, good to know there's a cross-foot. Thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:29, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

File:U.S. gunboat Cairo (a.k.a. USS Cairo) - Mississippi River Fleet - Original.tiff

I think that should solve the problem, no? I'll push this into my restoration queue. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 06:36, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: - Thanks for finding that! I'm hoping to do some work on Cairo's article in the future, although it probably won't be until after the new year. Hog Farm _Talk 02:58, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Update on me and Vicksburg campaign inactivity

@Hog Farm, BusterD, Kges1901, Djmaschek, and TwoScars: Except for two small edits on September 1, I have been offline since August 16, just after I finished the end of the Civil War issue, left a message here and volunteered to help on the Vicksburg campaign project. I thought I should give you an explanation for my absence and lack of activity though I hesitate to write about such things. I know you are all busy and this is off topic. I am truly unhappy about not being able to keep contributing regularly recently and I do hope to return soon. I have been in a quagmire of seemingly never ending health problems. I had the injury to my knee and thigh, previously mentioned, then a rotator cuff impingement. I became weak with other symptoms and was hardly able to continue physical therapy. Then I had a surgery (different problem) in early October, digestive issues and caught a bacterial infection - in the hospital no doubt. I have perhaps recovered from that after a course of antibiotics but I am now having some worrisome recurring symptoms. I have had trouble keeping up with everyday activities most days and have some catching up to do. Holiday preparations, a few doctor visits and restarting physical therapy are also on the immediate agenda. Nonetheless, hope springs eternal. I have a few small edits to make to my book list and perhaps elsewhere. This is my main hobby and I want to get back to it in a more meaningful way, including helping finish work on the Vicksburg campaign. I hope I can do that soon. I also hope all of you are doing well. Donner60 (talk) 09:15, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

No deadline, brother. Thanks for keeping us up. We are glad that despite your setbacks you are improving. Because of RL issues I have not been able to contribute as much as I would like either. I hope you are able to move through the PT phase; just do the exercises as requested. This group cares more about any teammate than a work product. Get better, read a bunch, and check in as desired. And relax. Enjoy your holidays, dude. BusterD (talk) 11:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

I agree with BusterD. RL is much more important than Wikipedia, and you cannot neglect your health (or your family). I had to do PT in 2019 to get my wrist to bend after breaking it in three places. I recommend doing the PT as early in the day as possible—get it over with for the day. You may find that you like exercising. I currently work out three times per week—first thing in the morning, before breakfast. Get a good workout (or PT), but do not go so hard that you do not feel like working out again. Relax, enjoy the holidays, do not spend all day in front of a computer. Wikipedia will be here when you are ready. TwoScars (talk) 15:44, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

@BusterD and TwoScars: Thanks. I appreciate your encouragement and advice. I hope everyone here has a great holiday season as well. Donner60 (talk) 02:24, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

@Donner60: - sorry for the late reply; I just got back from a trip to rural Louisiana visiting family (I got to visit Vicksburg along the way, as well as Jenkins Ferry, Mansfield LA, and Fort Southerland). I second what Buster and TwoScars say about health, please take care of yourself before anything on-wiki. I let a back injury fester from late 2018 to early 2020 and live to regret putting that off most days (and I'm in my early 20s and according to the doctor shouldn't be that messed up in the back and neck).

I started on User:Hog Farm/Siege of Vicksburg in October and got to where I'm ready for the orbat section, but life got hectic in November and I haven't gotten back to it. Any commentary about what's been written so far would be very appreciated. (I probably won't get back to this until a few weeks. I borrowed a book about tinclads from a local library and want to try to get some more articles resourced from their current state of being just DANFS copies before the book needs to go back in mid-December). Hog Farm _Talk 03:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and best wishes. I hope you can do something to relieve and reverse your back and neck pain. I have had some chiropractic work for my back and neck. It can be a relief, and in some cases, not just temporary. I had a back problem a few years ago which could have resulted in surgery. The chiropractor relieved the problem. The orthopedic surgeon was at least mildly surprised. Some insurance can cover chiropractic treatment, at least for specific injuries or problems.

As I wrote above, I hope I can have more time and energy to get back to more regular Wikipedia writing and editing soon. I think it would be too optimistic for me to expect to do much for the rest of the year considering the holidays, catching up on a few things and a few more doctor visits and physical therapy.

I have enough books on Vicksburg to do some reasonably thorough research and with any luck to comment on or contribute to the articles. I have read part of the short "Siege of Jackson, Mississippi" book. I think I at least have a grasp of the preliminary moves up to the start of the siege. From there, it appears to be straightforward enough. For the next few days, I plan to catch up with listing some books that I bought earlier in the year.

You seem to have had a good tour of interesting battlefields on your recent trip. I hope you had good weather along the way. Donner60 (talk) 04:16, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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In further appreciation

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		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with a bar to this barnstar in further recognition of the vast number of thorough, detailed and actionable reviews you have carried out. This work continues to be very much appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:27, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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USS Marmora (1862)

Thanks for your hard work on USS Marmora (1862) (I got pinged when you linked to Concordia, Mississippi). Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:26, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Hog Farm _Talk 14:48, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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Highway 8

Just so it doesn't get lost in the archiving, I'm going to copy it here: Since WP:PR is kind of a dead horse, do you perhaps have any recommendations where I can get someone to make these kind of audits (particularly that outside-the-box take that is scrupulous of refs, which I'd look at and say "oh, yeah, common denominator"). The insider perspective is lost on me. Floydian ^τ _¢ 00:15, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

@Floydian: - Unfortunately, there's not a consistent place to go to that I can think of off the top of my head. The average peer review doesn't go into sources like that, and even many FACs don't get that thorough of reviews. I just make a habit of looking into sources when I can when reviewing FACs, and found a few pagination issues early on so I kept going on Highway 8. Normally I'd offer to go through Highway 8 when I have time (thanks to the Wikipedia Library, I can access most of the sources used), but I'm fighting a pinched nerve in my neck right now and am trying to finish up a userspace draft before I have to return a key book to the library on Friday, so I'm unfortunately not in a position to look over Highway 8 in the short term. Buidhe or Gog the Mild may have ideas on where to go for something like this. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense or isn't helpful, but that nerve is causing enough problems this evening it's hard for me to focus on writing coherently. Hog Farm _Talk 02:04, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I hope you feel better, and I appreciate the time you have taken. I can appreciate the follies of old age, here's hoping to the singularity! - Floydian ^τ _¢ 02:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

TFA

December songs

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Thank you today for your share of CSS Baltic, introduced: "An object lesson in what happens when you try to DIY an ironclad. I believe that this is the first FAC for a warship of the Confederate States."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:54, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

... and today for Battle of Van Buren, introduced "After Battle of St. Charles and Marmaduke-Walker duel, here is another Confederate failure in Arkansas. Of the three primary Southern figures at Van Buren, you have department commander Holmes who was kicked upstairs for incompetence elsewhere, army commander Hindman who has managed to completely alienate the state where he was once a popular politician, and outpost commander Crump who drew guard duty despite past poor performances in that area."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

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Norwich City F.C.

I think I've been about as cooperative as could possibly be desired, albeit a little slow. The article is surely way over the quality bar for FA. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 17:15, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

@Dweller: - I'll take a look over it either tonight or tomorrow. From a skim it looks like it's in good shape. Hog Farm _Talk 17:31, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Fab thanks --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 17:35, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}}

Donner60 (talk) 23:39, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello Hog Farm: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

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Citation bot solution

Citation bot is making on the order of one million edits per year, usually in large batches, and checking two or three times as many without editing the articles. The best solution is to put a nobots template on articles that the bot makes bad edits to. I see you have already done something similar. Abductive (reasoning) 18:04, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Hog Farm _Talk 18:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

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Happy New Year, Hog Farm!

Happy New Year!

Hog Farm,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Happy New Year!

Hog Farm,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:13, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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Congratulations - December 2022 MilHist Article Writing Contest

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