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Firstly, thanks for the kind words; they are much appreciated. Secondly, the more eyes the better. Since I too have my own personal opinions as to the matter, having someone else to ensure that policy is followed can only help. Thanks! -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 15:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC) |
Firstly, thanks for the kind words; they are much appreciated. Secondly, the more eyes the better. Since I too have my own personal opinions as to the matter, having someone else to ensure that policy is followed can only help. Thanks! -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 15:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:Sorry. Normally I don't speak like that on wiki, but I had a feeling that Yudel would respond better if he knew that I have a similar background to him, and speaking that polyglot of Yiddish, English, Aramaic, and Hebrew known as [[Yeshivish]] is basically the quickest and most efficient way to present my "bona fides" as it were. Only someone who spent years or decades learning in a [[Haredi]] yeshiva would be comfortable in that talk. Be that as it may, I think I can tone it down now. Thank you for the comment! -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 16:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
:Sorry. Normally I don't speak like that on wiki, but I had a feeling that Yudel would respond better if he knew that I have a similar background to him, and speaking that polyglot of Yiddish, English, Aramaic, and Hebrew known as [[Yeshivish]] is basically the quickest and most efficient way to present my "bona fides" as it were. Only someone who spent years or decades learning in a [[Haredi]] yeshiva would be comfortable in that talk. Be that as it may, I think I can tone it down now. Thank you for the comment! -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 16:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:: So now Avi has evidently achieved his goal to confuse other gentile sysops from understanding the issue at hand, let me try to clear thinks up, Avi has agreed to delete that line that a particuer group is supportive of Zionism, but only after a week, i ask him please don't wait if we agree that this is unsourced material that can be viewed by some people as slanderous it should be deleted right away and never been add there without sourcing, Avi evidently dodges the point, since his POV is that it is not slanderous and negative but he does not deny the fact that by some people it is negative, so in essence it does not belong there while unsourced. All I am asking is to delete this one line which is a double header to a section and completely unexplained with any text underneath it so it is also an empty header, ''''Groups which are generally supportive of the State of Israel''' i have no other reqwest and other desire to edit out that artice so stop acting as if i am being holden back from adding stuff unsourced, Niel i beg u don't accuse me of this like u did in saying for Avi that he was right to ask me for sources, i never ever added stuff in there just deleted unsourced material which is negative and slanderous by some people and should never have been added there, Avi blocked it without any edit war in process, and subsequently we see clearly what was his motive in bloking this article, now he became the invested of that article by not letting others delete this line, Niel if u don't want to help don't give him encouragement on his abuse of power, when u clearly say that u don't understand the issue.--[[User:Yidisheryid|יודל]] 16:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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List of famous Ethnic-Americans in general
If you would be so kind as to tell me how one Ethnic-American group can be deleted, yet others are allowed to exist on Wikipedia? The lists of famous English-Americans, Finnish-Americans and German-Americans lists were deleted. It seems like a huge double standard to me. I wasn't convinced by your the 'Deletion' arguements whatsoever. There were far more votes for 'Keep' than 'Delete' on the list of German-Americans page that you deleted. Yet, you will be hard pressed to find a more sourced page. There were something along the lines of 275 legit sources documented. I spent countless hours maintaining that page. If you are going to delete one, then delete them all, using the same logic and speed. Alexander lau 12:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Reminder to self
Neil, when you get home, email the IAAF and ask if they would release a photo finish image (http://www.iaaf.org/insideIAAF/contacts/index.html). Neil ム 10:23, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Why did you remove the article "List of German Schlager singers" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.100.177.86 (talk) 19:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Legumes
Hi Neil. Are you sure it's a good idea to mention the whirlygig of doom on the administrators' noticeboard? It might send people hunting for it. Picaroon (t) 16:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Mayleaf
Thanks for your speedy response. Kelpin 15:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, bless you for taking on the chore of erasing that long trail of spam-slime. Wareh 15:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- I've removed some of them - there are 3 left but I can't find the tourdates link on the pages (I'm probably being dim though). Kelpin 15:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- The others aren't really spam, so they're fine. And as for cleaing the spam, I have a rollback button - it's almost like cheating ;) Neil ム 15:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- That makes me feel better I thought I was just slow with a keyboard! Kelpin 15:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- O/t I see you are a fellow graduate of the University of Birmingham (albeit unless you were a child genius you were probably still at Primary School when I was there!). Small world! Kelpin 08:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Closure of Jerusalemite AfD
Hi there Neil! I'm just wondering if you could explain your closure of the AfD a little more. At least two editors were strongly against deletion and merger based on the rationale that Jerusalemite was a distinct term. Was your closure based on a head count or was it that you found the arguments pointing to the distinct meaning of the term unconvincing? Thanks in advance for your reply. Tiamat 11:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Tiamut. Both sides had good arguments; the crux of the matter was whether "Jerusalemite" meant more than just "someone from Jerusalem". The great majority of contributors (six to two) felt that it did not. Whilst AFD is not a headcount, and numbers are always overridden by policy, when both sides have valid arguments then it must come down to a judgement of straight consensus. Six to two is pretty strong. Neil ム 12:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I misunderestimated you
Neil, again I see that you are a man of many talents. I've got one for you:
A U.S. President invades a rogue state. A few months later he unfurls a banner on an aircraft carrier, announcing: "Mission Accomplished." PUNCHLINE: Four years and anywhere from 70,000 to 700,000 civilian deaths later the war is still going! What a laugher. Sickest joke I've heard in a decade.
Not to get too serious on you. Here's a funnier take on things. Marskell 17:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
My user page
Thanks for taking an objective view. I must admit that I was surprised to find that my fictional names offended people. They are staying I am sorry to say; I don't interfere with other people's user pages and they won't with mine. The complaining users were not brave enough to confront me, so I tell you if you talk to them in future: this is English Language Wikipedia; and those names are fictional and mean nothing in English. There are some 6,000 languages in the world and anything one cares to mention in normal speech may have phonetically tabboo connotations in different languages. Is English your first language? Doesn't the religious term "Shi'ite" bring other things to mind? I removed the EU pipelinks, it changes nothing about how I feel; I know this is not a soapbox and if people have a problem with me, remember, nobody asked them to join the Wikipedia community, let them go elsewhere. Thank you Neil, I hope there will be no problems in the future. Evlekis 21:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
List of Finnish Americans
I greatly object to your seemingly abrupt decision to delete the article List of Finnish Americans, despite the related discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Norwegian Americans by well-established authors was clearly against such an action. --Drieakko 11:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- As per the writing at the top of the page, you are entirely free to present your case for overturning any deletion close I make at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Neil ム 12:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
re Haredim and Zionism and my block of User:Yidisheryid
Hi, thanks for your note. I blocked Yidisheryid per a report at WP:AIV, and while reviewing the post Final Warning edits I noted they had reverted to a previous edit of theirs and so rolled back the edit as an admin action prior to issuing the block. I have had no other interaction on the article. The block is one hour and I have suggested to Yidisheryid they participate in a discussion once the block expires. I presume that (one of the other) party to the dispute is User:Yossiea, who issued the warning and report. I can unblock Yidisheryid if you wish, or issue Yossiea with a similar block for bad faith warning and reporting (this way they may find common cause in being peeved with an admin.) I will watch for your reply. LessHeard vanU 14:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think leaving things as they are is fine. Yossiea was entreating Yidisheryid to use the talk page, and he was refusing to, instead, trenchantly edit warring. The hour block was entirely appropriate. I've protected the article in question, given them three days to discuss things, explained to Yossiea that if people disagree with edits then there can't be a consensus, told Yidisheryid to discuss things on the talk page or he'll be blocked for tendentious editing, and hopefully things will resolve themselves. Neil ム 14:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks. LessHeard vanU 14:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Neil, it looks like the protection is worn off but the template is still there. In addition, yidisheryid is still pushing his POV without discussing things on the talk page. Yossiea (talk) 13:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there. I usually report people who consistently delete speedy deletion tags without going to the talk page as vandals (58.185.47.84 hasn't been the first, and won't be the last) - that's my interpretation of having
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ranging from uw-speedy1 to uw-speedy4.
By the way: that user is also removing the AfD tags.
Anyway, thanks for the tip on AFD. Regards, -- Iván Sánchez(talk) 10:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- No, I didn't go straight for the last warning template - that IP is also Dpgz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). If you check the history, Dpgz removed the speedy tags four times, then switched to anonimous, then I put the uw-speedy4 warning in 58.185.47.84's talk page.
- I guess that I should have put the sockpuppeteer templates as well... -- Iván Sánchez(talk) 10:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
A semi-interested third party...
Just as a question regarding the blocks of DrBat and Asgardian, and not arguing that the pair didn't need some sort of sanction, but at what point does prior history come into play with block durations?
The reason I ask is that, in looking at the logs, DrBat has a string of 24hr 3RR/Edit waring blocks in late `05 and early `06 and Asgardian has a cycle of them for this type of activity from early through mid '07 with the last one being 31hrs.
Looking at these, the 24hr duration may be viewed as the same old same old, or a step back instead of disapproval of a repeated bad behavior. Or am I seeing this wrong?
Thanks - J Greb 20:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- I wanted to emphasise to the pair of them not they are both equally to blame, and as both of them are convinced they are right and are unwilling to reach any kind of compromise, they will continue to be blocked for an equal (albeit increasing) amount of time every time they edit war over the same darn things, until they are willing to compromise. I didn't want to take past history into account, as otherwise the blocks may not then have been of the same length, which would have negated the intent of treating them equally. Neil ム 14:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, thanks for the kind words; they are much appreciated. Secondly, the more eyes the better. Since I too have my own personal opinions as to the matter, having someone else to ensure that policy is followed can only help. Thanks! -- Avi 15:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry. Normally I don't speak like that on wiki, but I had a feeling that Yudel would respond better if he knew that I have a similar background to him, and speaking that polyglot of Yiddish, English, Aramaic, and Hebrew known as Yeshivish is basically the quickest and most efficient way to present my "bona fides" as it were. Only someone who spent years or decades learning in a Haredi yeshiva would be comfortable in that talk. Be that as it may, I think I can tone it down now. Thank you for the comment! -- Avi 16:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- So now Avi has evidently achieved his goal to confuse other gentile sysops from understanding the issue at hand, let me try to clear thinks up, Avi has agreed to delete that line that a particuer group is supportive of Zionism, but only after a week, i ask him please don't wait if we agree that this is unsourced material that can be viewed by some people as slanderous it should be deleted right away and never been add there without sourcing, Avi evidently dodges the point, since his POV is that it is not slanderous and negative but he does not deny the fact that by some people it is negative, so in essence it does not belong there while unsourced. All I am asking is to delete this one line which is a double header to a section and completely unexplained with any text underneath it so it is also an empty header, 'Groups which are generally supportive of the State of Israel i have no other reqwest and other desire to edit out that artice so stop acting as if i am being holden back from adding stuff unsourced, Niel i beg u don't accuse me of this like u did in saying for Avi that he was right to ask me for sources, i never ever added stuff in there just deleted unsourced material which is negative and slanderous by some people and should never have been added there, Avi blocked it without any edit war in process, and subsequently we see clearly what was his motive in bloking this article, now he became the invested of that article by not letting others delete this line, Niel if u don't want to help don't give him encouragement on his abuse of power, when u clearly say that u don't understand the issue.--יודל 16:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Can you do me a favor?
Can you delete this for me I used it for a merge attempt of mine and now i have no need for it. Oh and if you're curious the merge was successful.Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 22:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Done. You can just tag them with {{db-userreq}}, though. Neil ム 14:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
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| Thank you for your participation in my recent RfA. Even though you didn't support my candidacy, I did greatly appreciate your comments, which I will certainly put to good use in improving myself as an editor. I do plan to make another request in a few months, once I have improved upon your concerns. Thank you again, and happy editing! Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Toolserver Interwiki
Hi,
As per your request on Meta, the Wikimedia Toolserver is now accessable using the tools: prefix. Many thanks,
Thunderhead 16:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)