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We can't really link to them from here, but you might like to have a read of http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=AIR_50/49%2C_transcript_and_commentary_on_Air_Combat_reports_by_A._R._Goldsmith Probably a better place for my OR guess as to why the reports were on re-used paper. [[User:David Underdown|David Underdown]] ([[User talk:David Underdown|talk]]) 17:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC) |
We can't really link to them from here, but you might like to have a read of http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=AIR_50/49%2C_transcript_and_commentary_on_Air_Combat_reports_by_A._R._Goldsmith Probably a better place for my OR guess as to why the reports were on re-used paper. [[User:David Underdown|David Underdown]] ([[User talk:David Underdown|talk]]) 17:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Welcome!
Hi mate, did you have any special plans for these articles in the near future, given your interest in VCs?! I was going to take a little breather from Chiefs of the Air Staff and get these guys to B/GA class some time in the next month or so... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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200 GAs for WP Australia
Hi Bryce. WP Australia is now within striking range of 200 GAs. Last year we had 82 GAs at the start of December and managed to rattle off 24 in one month and got the century up by the end of the year. This year we are again in striking range with 178 GAs, so we are trying at WP:AWNB to strive for 200 by the end of the year or Australia Day. Well, seeing as you have been heaps active recently with the ADF bios, I guess, you would be a trump card in the drive. I hope you join us. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Military career of Keith Miller photographs
Hi YellowMonkey, I was having a browze through through the above article you nominated for GA, and was woundering if the Australian War Memorial online collections database had any photos of Miller during the Second World War. Sure enough, I found a few after a bit of a search and thought that you might be interested. The ID numbers are:
- SUK14661
- P02218.001
- UK2968
- UK2970
- SUK14459
- SUK14491
- SUK14519
- SUK14520
- SUK14525
- SUK14643
- SUK14645
- SUK14649
- SUK14650
- P02218.004
- SUK14375
- SUK14529
- SUK11623
Well, I hope you find this interesting and/or perhaps helpful. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 11:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- P.S. the AWM also has an brief article on Miller here. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 11:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ah thanks, did you spot any oddities about the military stuff that might seem a bit suspicious. The author of that book is very sloppy so I had to fix up some of the cricket info data. Unfortunately, the UK photos go under the 70-year rule so we can't use any of them. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- I havn't had a good read of the prose, but I bet the information should be fine. Also, it was my understanding that any photo contained in the Australian War Memorial collections would come under either A or E of PD Australia if they were produced before the appropiate dates. If so, the above images should be fine. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:01, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, yeah, for photos in Australia, then it would be ok if it was pre-1955 regardless, but I thought photos taken in England were 70 years after the photographer died. Or is there some loophole somehwere? The photos are basically all from the Victory Test in England in 1945 or his air base in the UK. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ah thanks, did you spot any oddities about the military stuff that might seem a bit suspicious. The author of that book is very sloppy so I had to fix up some of the cricket info data. Unfortunately, the UK photos go under the 70-year rule so we can't use any of them. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Heinrich Bär
Thanks for your constructive feedback. Please note that I am not a native English speaking person. Having, said that I encourage/ask you to make possible correction directly in the article. Again thanks for helping out here. 08:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your offer! I made some changes to the early part of his career as well as his after the war life. I would appreciate if you gave the article a thorough rub down in these areas. MisterBee1966 (talk) 09:03, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think that the majority of the issues have been addressed. Could you please have another look and let me know what you think now? ThanksMisterBee1966 (talk) 03:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think I fixed the sentence. Thanks for all your help on this. MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think that the majority of the issues have been addressed. Could you please have another look and let me know what you think now? ThanksMisterBee1966 (talk) 03:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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Pedler Palmer
Hi -
I have noted your interest in Australian Mil history by your edits to James_Ramsay_(Australian_governor). I am interested in that article also.
More that that - have a look at Pedlar Palmer, I have both the books listed as references and he was quite a gent. Departed Sydney at about your age on a sailing ship for ports all over the world. If you can improve this article --- it would be great. He was quite an Australian - who nearly died fighting for the Brits!. I can tell you a lot about him but documenting it (except by his own books) will be harder.
Regards, Ariconte (talk) 04:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Re
Hi there, sorry for that, yesterday evening I had to leave unexpectedly, so I wasn't able to complete the closure of that ACR. Thanks for dealing with it! I'll have look and see if everything's done properly. Cheers, --Eurocopter (talk) 12:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Re ce request
No problems, always a pleasure. I'll add it to the list (just when I thought I was getting through it too!) EyeSerenetalk 09:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Peer Review of Walter Oesau
Hello There!
I appreciate you taking time out to comment on this article. I have incorporated all the review points you had mentioned. So if you were planning on going over it again you may do so. I know I could take it through B class. But importantly what I'd like to know is, given its current material, will it pass the muster of GA-3 (Broad in its coverage) at all. I know I severely lack personal information, but does Wikipedia mandates such information for GA-3 Criteria ? Please let me know. Thanks once again. Perseus71 (talk) 20:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I am afraid, there's a lot of personal information out there that I can't quote for lack of Primary references. Likewise I am told there are primary references that I don't have access to. I believe as to the professional information, that's all there is out there that I could see. So the question then becomes, based on the professional information given in the article, what are its chances of passing the GA-3 criteria ? Appreciate your time. Thanks Perseus71 (talk) 14:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ha!
- Now you see my sore Point! I for the life of me was not able to find even that! Its something to do with his flying style. That's all I know. :( Appreciate your time though. Perseus71 (talk) 02:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Military Biography
I stumbled across Richard Nelson Gale and noted it's appalling state, and though I'm doing a few articles at the moment I thought I'd stretch myself even further and add more to my workload! When I thought 'Military Biography', I naturally thought of you and your fine work. So, can you help me - what's a good structure for a military biography? Skinny87 (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
+cats
Well done.
Meanwhile, Merry Xmas, and wishing you a Happy New Year, and Best Wishes for a successful and minimum-stress Year 12.
(My eldest daughter has just survived it with no noticable permanent ill-effects.)
Have you some ideas on what you want to do at Uni? Which Uni?
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Pdf, thank you for the very kind comments. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. I have a few ideas at what uni I would like to attend, but I have already decided on a Bachelor of Arts degree in modern history. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 23:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I can not express any surprise that you are planning a Bachelor of Arts degree in modern history ;-) I expect that you would thoroughly enjoy it and do very well.
Good luck with Year 12! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Redirects
Hey there hows it going. I noticed you have changed a few articles infoboxes to reflect United States of America vice United States|United States of America. Is there a reason why you are doing that. It is creating unecessary redirects. Also, when using AWB to look at a group of articles its easier to look at United States, rather than try and determine all of the different possible combinations of the US. (I.e. US, USA, United States, United States of America, etc).--Kumioko (talk) 20:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comments and I know of the rule you pointed out however that rule has existed since WP had only a few thousand pages and way before the creation of AWB. Although I understand that it seems unnecessary, there are couple reasons why I do it. 1) To provide standardization to the articles, 2) to make it easier to pull in a group of articles as mentioned above. To illustrate this better here is a breakdown of some of the common ones I have found.
- over 25000 articles that link to United States
- 16708 to United States of America
- over 25000 to USA
- 2565 to US
- 4106 to U.S.
- 1434 to U.S.A
so when we that use AWB or some other application want to scan through these we have to try and guess at all the combinations. Therefore making it say United States makes much more sense.--Kumioko (talk)
Happy New Year!
It's still last year here - just. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. No it isn't. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
abbreviation vs expansion
I was on Russ Shalders page and noticed this edit. I've noticed you do similar things before. I was wondering why you prefer the expanded version of the rank over the abbreviation?
(I'm not unhappy about the change - somewhat indifferent, actually. I was just wondering ... )
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Pdf. I prefer the expanded variant as it looks more formal and professional. To me, the abbreviation just looks a little too messy and informal. I just went around a little while ago and made edits on several former and present senior ADF personnel in an attempt to make the succession boxes uniform. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
"Hi Pdf." - Hi Bryce
"I prefer the expanded variant as it looks more formal and professional. To me, the abbreviation just looks a little too messy and informal." - I'm not sure about the informal, but I agree that the "all capitals" convention used by the ADF looks messy - in my opinion, the British "LtGen" and "MajGen" looks much neater than the Oz "LTGEN" and "MAJGEN".
(By-the-way, had you noticed that the British have changed usage from "Major–General" to "Major General"?)
"I just went around ... " - Yes, I had noticed. Big job! Very diligent (and patient) of you to stick with it and complete it.
Thanks for the reply. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
linked ranks
Regarding edits like this one, why did you decide to delink (unlink?) the ranks?
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
(P.S. Reply here if it's easier for you - I have this page, and 2,500 others, on my watchlist.)
- It is best not to over link, and in most cases the ranks in the succession boxes are already linked in the article. Also, it looks less attractive when the name is linked in conjunction with the person's name and creates (in my opinion) an unnecessary blue line. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 07:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
forced line breaks
BTW: Some people use windows that are A4-portrait size and shape; That's why there were line breaks between the rank and the person's name. With the line breaks removed, the line wraps in unpredictable places (i.e. where it wraps depends on how wide the reader's window is), and the result can be "less attractive". e.g.
- Lieutenant General
- Sir Arthur MacDonald
looks more attractive than
- Lieutenant General Sir Arthur
- MacDonald
(Even when they're centered, the first still looks better than the second.)
However, given that you've already done it to so many pages, ...
Well, it's time to go under the house and do the annual white-ant inspection.
(Sometimes I think I'd prefer to rent than own!)
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- The Hassett article was the only article that used the line breaks, and they were placed there by me as a compromise between the full rank and an abbreviation. I would prefer not to change it as all other succession boxes are presented in the same mannor (not just the ADF ones). Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 07:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Reviews
Just letting you know that I put Percy Shaw Jeffrey up for both a WP:BIO and GA reviews. Seeing as though you did the original start class rating, I thought you might be interested.20:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarry1250 (talk • contribs)
Milhist writing contest
The Writer's Barnstar | ||
For placing second, with 32 points, Milhist writing contest for the month of December, I award you the writer's barnstar. Well done, Woody (talk) 02:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC) |
Happy New Year!
Thanks again for all the FAs and GAs. A good read. Here is some fuel from my tree to keep you firing in the new year! All the best for Yr 12. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
RE: Moro River Campagin GAN
Hey, Kirrages & I have dealt with several of the issues brought up in Prose, MoS & Neutrality. Feel free to check back in. One minor note, however - I'm currently away from my primary book collection (as I'm currently skiing;), and as such won't be able to address the "factual accuracy" or "broad in coverage" issues until Monday, January 5 (Australia-time, that is). If addressing them takes longer than expected, it is because I am not at my book-collection - my apologies. Cam (Chat) 05:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, We've addressed everything in the "Neutrality" section, the majority of the issues in "Well-Written", and all the issues in "Images". Would you be able to check back in so that we can know what we still have to do? Cam (Chat) 19:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I think Kirrages & I have everything dealt with. Cam (Chat) 02:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- There we go. All done. Cam (Chat) 04:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Cam (Chat) 05:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- There we go. All done. Cam (Chat) 04:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I think Kirrages & I have everything dealt with. Cam (Chat) 02:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, We've addressed everything in the "Neutrality" section, the majority of the issues in "Well-Written", and all the issues in "Images". Would you be able to check back in so that we can know what we still have to do? Cam (Chat) 19:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
John Whittle
Oops, sorry about that. I try to avoid that as often as possible, but I guess I was careless in this case. --Closedmouth (talk) 04:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Phil Lamason
Appreciate your help with this article. PS, I was also born on 10 September, although several years earlier. Regards, Spy007au (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Lol. You're welcome. Always nice to meet a fellow virgo, and one interested in military history to boot. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 15:02, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
London Gazette url has changed
The Gazette have just completely changed their url scheme, the basic search page is now at http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search, I've just updated the template so everything should keep working, but you may need to force a purge of your cache to see the updated version, and if you spot any problems this may be the reason. For reference, the notarchive= parameter is no longer required. David Underdown (talk) 17:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Percy Statton
--Dravecky (talk) 05:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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Triple Crown
Thank you for contributions to the project, Great work, especially on Harry Murray - quite a well done, well cited piece. May you wear the crowns well. Cirt (talk) 04:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Well done!
The WikiProject Barnstar | ||
For your extensive contributions to the Military history WikiProject, as evidenced by your nomination in the 2008 "Military Historian of the Year" awards, I am delighted to present you with this WikiProject Barnstar --ROGER DAVIES talk 03:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Well deserved ACM
The Milhist A-Class medal | ||
For prolific work on Clarence Smith Jeffries, George Ingram and John Whittle, between October and December 2008, please accept the A-class medal from the WP:MILHIST coordinators. Congratulations and keep up the good work! JonCatalán(Talk) 16:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
ACR medal
A fuller explanation is here. I don't know whether he'll do it yet but he seems the perfect man for the job. See his user page for some of the artwork he's done. --ROGER DAVIES talk 04:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Tom Derrick
Hi Abraham, is Tom Derrick your next target for an A-class nom? I've got a copy of Peter Stanley's excellent book on the battle of Tarakan and can help out by expanding the section on his final battle and death. Nick-D (talk) 09:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've greatly expanded the section on Tarakan, and will add more tomorrow. Stanley doesn't say that Derrick commanded the defence after being wounded, and states only that he was in great pain from his wound and was placed behind cover where his runner stayed with him. Stanley doesn't comment on whether Derrick deserved another VC, but it is clear that he played the key role during the capture of the Freda position. Nick-D (talk) 11:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Well done. A bridge near where I lived got named after him. I must admit I'd never heard of him before they campaigned for his brdige though. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Adrian Goldsmith
We can't really link to them from here, but you might like to have a read of http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=AIR_50/49%2C_transcript_and_commentary_on_Air_Combat_reports_by_A._R._Goldsmith Probably a better place for my OR guess as to why the reports were on re-used paper. David Underdown (talk) 17:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations!
The Milhist A-Class medal | ||
For prolific work on – Harry Murray, James Newland and George Julian Howell – promoted to A-Class between August 2008 and January 2009, by order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the Milhist A-Class medal. -MBK004 23:38, 16 January 2009 (UTC) |