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==Sorry to be a pain==
==Sorry to be a pain==
Hello YM, agree with you about Perry, Could you also delete my userpage and then restore 1 revision? Thankyou, '''[[user:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family:Rockwell;color:#E49B0F">Aaroncrick</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family:Rockwell;color:#FE2712">(Tassie Boy talk)</span>]]</sup>''' 08:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello YM, agree with you about Perry, Could you also delete my userpage and then restore 1 revision? Thankyou, '''[[user:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family:Rockwell;color:#E49B0F">Aaroncrick</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Aaroncrick|<span style="font-family:Rockwell;color:#FE2712">(Tassie Boy talk)</span>]]</sup>''' 08:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:Sure thing, if a Wikipedia user looks up [[Playboy]] writer to use as a source to prove how good a certain cricket writer is, then the user is probably the subject himself who kept news/mag cuttings of praise of himself in a folder. Who else would look up playboy and porn magazines to find out information about cricket history? And if the original motive was an interest in pornography, I doubt it would suddenly motivate them to look up and write a 100k cricket history article. Personally I also wonder what inside knowledge they would need to know the subject's university results. '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]''' (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey|<font color="#FA8605">cricket calendar poll!</font>]]'') [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing#Statement_by_YellowMonkey|paid editing=POV]] 01:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
<s>:Sure thing, if a Wikipedia user looks up [[Playboy]] writer to use as a source to prove how good a certain cricket writer is, then the user is probably the subject himself who kept news/mag cuttings of praise of himself in a folder. Who else would look up playboy and porn magazines to find out information about cricket history? And if the original motive was an interest in pornography, I doubt it would suddenly motivate them to look up and write a 100k cricket history article. Personally I also wonder what inside knowledge they would need to know the subject's university results. '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]''' (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey|<font color="#FA8605">cricket calendar poll!</font>]]'') [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing#Statement_by_YellowMonkey|paid editing=POV]] 01:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</s>


Have struck out content prior to delete (next step). I am a novice Wikipedia user. YellowMonkey is a highly experienced editor.
:::Playboy article was coverage of Roland Perry's first fictional thriller novel, ''Program for a Puppet''. There was also a Penthouse article on Roland's inside interviews at the White House. Roland has had a broad literary career, including cricket commentary. All of this is covered in the material that I believe should be posted, edited and contested as required for balance.

The content of the YellowMonkey post was a speculation that an internationally successful Australian author (22 published books and numerous awards) was posting some sort of vanity advertisement on a Wikipedia bio page without declaration. This was duly refuted by a declaration of identity of myself as the user posting this content in what I am learning will need to be a more Neutral-POV style as the bio of a living person.

See [[Talk:Roland_Perry]]

{extract}
'''''Haruspex101 Arrives:'''''

o Is not Roland Perry

o Has worked with Tim Burstall and Roland Perry on film development projects

o Is a novice Wikipedia editor. Has never added Wikipedia content before, and would welcome assistance with the technical aspects of doing so.

o Collated factual sourced material on Roland Perry and posted this on Wikipedia in July 2009 using journalistic style to bridge the sourced material and some opinion. Material is not contested by Roland Perry, even though it includes a good deal of sourced criticism of Roland Perry along with the overwhelming positive reviews of Roland Perry’s broad writing career which includes journalism and 22 published books on US politics, British espionage and history (WW1), along with a variety of biography, fiction as well as cricket history.

{extract ends}

YellowMonkey's speculation was false -- and the persistence of that speculative material continuing to be published on Wikipedia imputes that the reviews of Roland Perry's works were only from Playboy magazine -- when this was only one example extracted in an unrepresentative way by YellowMonkey from a list of over 150 references.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roland_Perry&oldid=300578463

Further, the YellowMonkey content framed Playboy magazine in some kind of pejorative shadow when it is actually considered a premiere outlet for literary material for well over 50 years. See for instance this independent user comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:YellowMonkey&diff=300719223&oldid=300718420

<s>:::Playboy article was coverage of Roland Perry's first fictional thriller novel, ''Program for a Puppet''. There was also a Penthouse article on Roland's inside interviews at the White House. Roland has had a broad literary career, including cricket commentary. All of this is covered in the material that I believe should be posted, edited and contested as required for balance.

:::So let's do that on the Roland Perry page.</s>

Also strike out my own previous reply prior to delete (next step).


:::So let's do that on the Roland Perry page.


:::[[User:Haruspex101|Haruspex101]] ([[User talk:Haruspex101|talk]]) 02:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC) (novice user)
:::[[User:Haruspex101|Haruspex101]] ([[User talk:Haruspex101|talk]]) 02:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC) (novice user)

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Photos were taken at the team parade at the training for ODIs in January/February 2009 at Adelaide Oval.

Unlike the Indian team last year, they actually took training seriously. They were all very gentlemanly. Very dignified and genial. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh that guy copyvios a lot from Cricinfo, well that means one of my images stays! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Philippines article

Can you please unprotect the Philippines article? I think it's a bit unnecessary, especially considering the Michael Jackson article isn't protected in any way. Thank you! Hihellowhatsup (talk) 07:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Philippines

Hello, I'm doing a simple replacement task on behalf of WP:WPOOK and I noticed you locked Philippines to sysop editing only. Therefore, I was wondering if you could help by please deleting the Outline of the Philippines link in the See Also section of the page and replace it with {{Main|Outline of the Philippines}} at the top of the section. It would be a great help. Highfields (talk, contribs, review) 13:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Images in Keith Miller

How come the images in the "Early Life" section in Miller seem to have been removed? They are of Keith Truscott and Bill Woodful. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 08:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I'll keep an eye on him. Do the images get deleted from the appropriate articles now? Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 08:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The bot normally does it but opbviously it is broken YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 08:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can you block him? As he obviously isn't learning. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 08:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would but I'm an involved administrator and I'm not a powerful warlord so I can't break the rules YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Been blocked in any case. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 06:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes WP AFL isn't very good. Jeff White and Tom Hawkins the other GA's aren't very good players so they don't really interest me. Joel Selwood is good player already and will probably win a Brownlow. I'm guessing AFL isn't you cup of tea even though you live in Adelaide? Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No I don't like it. There are too many thugs in there like Cousins, Hall and Everitt, although it looks good compared to RL. The athletic standards in AFL are very good but the ball skills are poor or aren't required, especially how some forwards can be considered top quality with a 50% accuracy rate (Tredrea). Especially how "traditionalists" like to criticise teams for passing the ball properly instead of the "classical way" of going for random long balls. Else it will end up like soccer matches between a good and a bad team where the bad team tend to get lots of defenders and block with 7-8 defenders and when the good team's attack ends they do a 50m bomb up to the lone striker; Iraq did that against Spain last week; about 6 defenders, 3 defensive midfielders and one striker, effectively. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
U can Add Dean Solomon to the list. Skills around the ground have improved drastically from past decades although kicking for goal hasn't improved at all really. Peter Hudson probably the best ever shot a goal rarely kicked a proper drop punt but he seemed to get them to go straight, but now emphasis is on kicking the magic goals from the boundary. There is currently a massive difference between Geelong and Melbourne. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well there is a big difference although not as much as IND/AUS/RSA down to BANG/ZIM or Brazil/Spain down to Asian teams other than Aus/JPN/KOR. Luckily in football for a bad team can block more easily, after all there is no point in losing 20-4 instead of 2-0. Most of the low teams when they play against Man U, Arsenal etc, they just don't try and are happy to lose 1-0 but in terms of shots at goal it is often about 20-2 or so. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And Ponting's form is giving me the shits... Hawkins is lucky to be in a side as good as Geelong. The only reason is that Geelong have a week forward link compared to their mids/defenders. Anyone with can review a GA. Some with very little edits review an art which they are a fan of and practically pass it without giving a good review like Philcha. It will be interesting to watch how Australia perform against England A tonight. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Help

Hi, I'm posting this on your (and other members of the Maths Wikiproject) talk as we need editors who are knowledgeable about Mathematics to evaluate the following discussion and check out the editors and articles affected. Please follow the link below and comment if you can help.

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_review_-_uninvolved_admin_request.

Thankyou. Exxolon (talk) 18:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm hardly an expert, just a person who did a bit as a student and hadn't come across the Butcher group the other guys being experienced academics and professors but I did come acrooss and write about things that are in the general sphere of things like Quasi-Hopf algebra and Vertex model, in which the studies of Hopf algebras and the like are used to solve lattice models that describe solids, like ice, for instance. Nevertheless the additions that AKNole made by cutting and pasting from the Butcher group stuff about pure maths about graph theory/combinatorics into the Minimal subtraction scheme, which is about doing calculations on particle physics. He copied something apparently about an alternative technique on trees in graph theory instead of using Feynman diagrams, which is an orthodox tool in theoretical physics, into an article about renormalization calculations in physics, which is done in the Feynman way. I don't know/understand if this stuff that he added, which is predated by the MSS is consistent with it, but it's certainly not right to just whack it in like that unless he can explain why it's related (if it is), especially as there was a debate about making things more accessible, as the addition would only confuse people; the vast majority of people who do QFT (which I have taken a course in, although I wouldn't say that I understood it irrespective of the grade I got) and renormalisation calculations including tenured academics at QFT/QCD institutes do not deal with anything beyond the basics of Lie algebra, let alone highly detailed quantum or Hopf algebras. Also his comments on the talk page seem a bit odd in focusing on rather unusual things, and his comments in the first parts show a lack of conviction about some 2nd year maths, while things like Hopf algebras would hardly be taught in 4th year unless a student decided to do a project on it. I don't know about the history to know if there is a motive for deliberate stalking or trolling. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Philippines article; Spanish and Arabic as "Voluntary & Optional Languages"

I think both should be put in the Languages section of the Philippines column, under the heading "Voluntary & Optional Languages" and beneath the Recognized Regional Languages. Right now its all the way at the bottom of the Philippines column as footnotes. I think the change I propose is more appropriate, as both Spanish and Arabic are named in the constitution as promoted on a voluntary and optional basis, and I think any language named in the constitution should be put in the languages section of the column. Hihellowhatsup (talk) 05:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Happy YellowMonkey's Day!

YellowMonkey has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
so I've officially declared today as YellowMonkey's Day!
For your fantastic work with WP:MILHIST,
enjoy being the star of the day, dear YellowMonkey!

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For a userbox you can put on your userpage, please see User:Dylan620/Today/Happy Me Day!.

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Thanks for that YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 11:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KP Main Page

Hi there,

In case you miss it, I've copied the newer draft of the Pietersen lead onto the WT:CRIC discussion - could you take a look (and change it as necessary) and then replace the version in the Main Page queue?

Oh, happy YM day for yesterday!!

MDCollins (talk) 23:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Thanks YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FAR notifications

The template works a little differently now that FAR has switched to the stable subpage system, like so: {{subst:FARMessage|Algerian Civil War|alt=Algerian Civil War/archive1}}. See Template:FARMessage. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 02:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be a pain

Hello YM, agree with you about Perry, Could you also delete my userpage and then restore 1 revision? Thankyou, Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 08:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC) :Sure thing, if a Wikipedia user looks up Playboy writer to use as a source to prove how good a certain cricket writer is, then the user is probably the subject himself who kept news/mag cuttings of praise of himself in a folder. Who else would look up playboy and porn magazines to find out information about cricket history? And if the original motive was an interest in pornography, I doubt it would suddenly motivate them to look up and write a 100k cricket history article. Personally I also wonder what inside knowledge they would need to know the subject's university results. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have struck out content prior to delete (next step). I am a novice Wikipedia user. YellowMonkey is a highly experienced editor.

The content of the YellowMonkey post was a speculation that an internationally successful Australian author (22 published books and numerous awards) was posting some sort of vanity advertisement on a Wikipedia bio page without declaration. This was duly refuted by a declaration of identity of myself as the user posting this content in what I am learning will need to be a more Neutral-POV style as the bio of a living person.

See Talk:Roland_Perry

{extract} Haruspex101 Arrives:

o Is not Roland Perry

o Has worked with Tim Burstall and Roland Perry on film development projects

o Is a novice Wikipedia editor. Has never added Wikipedia content before, and would welcome assistance with the technical aspects of doing so.

o Collated factual sourced material on Roland Perry and posted this on Wikipedia in July 2009 using journalistic style to bridge the sourced material and some opinion. Material is not contested by Roland Perry, even though it includes a good deal of sourced criticism of Roland Perry along with the overwhelming positive reviews of Roland Perry’s broad writing career which includes journalism and 22 published books on US politics, British espionage and history (WW1), along with a variety of biography, fiction as well as cricket history.

{extract ends}

YellowMonkey's speculation was false -- and the persistence of that speculative material continuing to be published on Wikipedia imputes that the reviews of Roland Perry's works were only from Playboy magazine -- when this was only one example extracted in an unrepresentative way by YellowMonkey from a list of over 150 references.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roland_Perry&oldid=300578463

Further, the YellowMonkey content framed Playboy magazine in some kind of pejorative shadow when it is actually considered a premiere outlet for literary material for well over 50 years. See for instance this independent user comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:YellowMonkey&diff=300719223&oldid=300718420

:::Playboy article was coverage of Roland Perry's first fictional thriller novel, Program for a Puppet. There was also a Penthouse article on Roland's inside interviews at the White House. Roland has had a broad literary career, including cricket commentary. All of this is covered in the material that I believe should be posted, edited and contested as required for balance.

So let's do that on the Roland Perry page.

Also strike out my own previous reply prior to delete (next step).


Haruspex101 (talk) 02:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC) (novice user)[reply]
Again, which third-party historian would read Penthouse for information about the US President? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's not again -- it's the first time you're asking that, isn't it? A good question, though. Let's take it to the Roland Perry page where the quality and veracity of sources can be contested as required. That would be a productive way forward.

Haruspex101 (talk) 02:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC) (novice user)[reply]


Off-topic comment: I don't know about Penthouse, but Playboy has published original writings of some all-time-greats. See for example this compilation : I read it years back and IIRC it contains no pictures. :-) Sorry for jumping in without even knowing the context but I saw YM's edit summary and had to comment Abecedare (talk) 02:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah makes perfect sense. Anyway were you meaning "sure thing" for deleting my userpage and then restoring 1 revision? Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 05:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

done that YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou very much sir, Ashes tonight! Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roland Perry

See Roland_Perry#Dispute_resolution

Your opinion

Hi, Names of the Greeks seems like a hopeless mess with no one interested enough to clean it up, but I am scared to nominate it for FAR. What do you think? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the names in the history and I don't think they would riot as a means of deterring FAR. Mostly the people in the history will disregard critics/FAR as not worth worrying about. In any case, if the owners are happy that their work doesn't need to be improved, we can go straight to FARC YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean, straight to FARC? (Maybe I don't understand the terms.) How do I do that? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 02:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think in the case that the owner of the author refuses to change an article, either because they think teh nom is a trolling expedition, the article is perfect, or it is a stunt or whatever, the article can move straight to the FARC (voting)phase YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The original nominator of the article Colossus has not edited since Spring of 2008. However, one of his last edits addressed the problems with Names of the Greeks on the article talk page.[1] It seems he agrees that the article's quality has fallen sharply, despite having many references. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit requested

Hello! It has been suggested at peer review that Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347 could use a going-through by a native-language editor for details of style. If you are interested, your help would be welcome! Regards, Constantine 07:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'll have a look YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 13:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit level for Philippines

Are all contributors barred from editing this article? Gubernatoria (talk) 08:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove protection YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 13:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PAVN units

Yes I'll try. However the Google Translate feature is not very good. My first aim is 308 Division, and maybe more slowly after that. Do you know of any Vietnamese speaking Wikipedians who might be able to help? Cheers Buckshot06(prof) 12:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, DHN (talk · contribs) is a crat on vi-wiki. Template:UseR can help. I am Vietnamese although I would hardly describe myself as being particularly good. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 13:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the VietWiki article in question is at http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C6%B0_%C4%91o%C3%A0n_308. My draft is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Buckshot06/Sandbox#308th_Division_.28PAVN.29. Buckshot06(prof) 14:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hindutashravi

I guess I was hoping he'd just go away - will let you know if he comes back. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 13:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

Email heading your way. Best, Risker (talk) 14:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it's fine. I didn't look at the data to begin with but once I did it was patently obvious, although a lot of people who intereacted with it didn't seem to pick it, or if they did, they didn't bat an eyelid. I just mentally factored it in after that; I didn't think a CU would be worth the trouble. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 14:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sock?

Separate ping - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Vyaghradhataki, is this a problem you have any background with? Strikes me as situation normal for the caste articles, not necessarily socking, but I'm not familiar with the pattern and some of the evidence cited is a little opaque to me. Nathan T 19:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

commented there YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mail

Hey, you have got mail. AdjustShift (talk) 15:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You've got another mail. AdjustShift (talk) 13:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
we can have a round table at WP:VIET. Some people are not so shy of talking even though they are in VN. I was told that a Communist policeman/internet monitoring guy turned up to a meetup in VN. LOL. And of course people who lived under the old South Vietnam or their family members have their own opinions. And also, religion can be very polarising in Vietnam, especially when it comes to people suspecting the nationalist loyalty of Catholics. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Thankyou for your kind words, YellowMonkey. Mumbai has finally achieved GA status. This was a tough task. Do you think, it is somewhere near FA now. KensplanetTC 04:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's defenitely a lot closer. I'll have a look YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to participate in an interesting discussion at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy#File:Man Utd FC .svg. Your comments & suggestions are very much appreciated Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 08:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi! How are you? I was just taking a break from controversial stuff and creating stubs on Indian villages when this person drew me into a conversation by labelling my contributions "rubbish".

In one place, Svr014 claims that Vadama Iyers are not related to Vadakalai Iyengars and makes personal attacks to defend his claim. At another place, he claims that Vadama Iyers and Vadakali Iyengars have the same set of gothras i.e. ancestry. I doubt his actual intentions. Now is this a mere gimmick? Anyway, I wish to take a break from this nonsense but seems these people would let me have by starting such discussions on pages I had edited long, long ago. -The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 13:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look at another time. The current computer I am on, popups doesn't work and the machine is slow so to open a diff at a time would take too long. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A sincere request to you

Dear User,

Thanks for your input regarding the complaint by another user. I am an American and I did not move to the USA from any other country. Please assume good faith in my account. I am not a sock, and any admin can verify this fact. I do not know who Mr. V is. Please help me and please protect my account and interests on WP. This is my sincere request to you. Have a nice day! Svr014 (talk) 13:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please also note that I am a new user and am unfamiliar with the WP culture. Please enlighten me with methodology and ways of communication, if you would like to, so that I can be a strong, happy, editor. Please do not block me. This is also a sincere request to you. Please assume good faith in me and please do not bite me. I am a newcomer. Svr014 (talk) 13:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look at another time. The current computer I am on, popups doesn't work and the machine is slow so to open a diff at a time would take too long. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: +

Thanks for the barnstar. If you see any other FARs that are close to "keep" territory, ping me and I'll take a look. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Burley Griffin done. I couldn't convert the volumetric flow rate in Lake Burley Griffin#Dam, but I don't think it's a big issue. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FAR

Yes, excellent idea. Those things may pop again and again. KensplanetTC 16:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 03:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ashes

Fairly even I say. Looks like Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Juliancolton‎ is going down. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 06:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australia ahead I think. The pitch doesn't appear to be doing mcuh. Alot of slack batting YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 06:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
England ahead I think. England have runs on the board and Australia to have bat last. A lot depends on the Aust. top three tonight. -- Mattinbgn\talk 06:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There we go three different opinions. Pieterson's shot was v poor. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 06:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't think it would come to this but the inside cover of Miller's Luck claims that he won "Book of the Year" from the [UK] cricket society when he wasn't even shortlisted. I wonder if it was a "deliberate error"? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 06:37, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

mmm.... it's gotten Very strange. Thanks didn't notice the peer review on my watchlist. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 06:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FAR issues regarding Australian articles

Now I don't know who "Aaronclick" is but unfortunately he seems to have caused a bit of a stir a while back at Talk:Australia. He probably should have mentioned this on the talkpage but he didn't so we must move on. I think he was hoping that this will promt action in fixing refrencing issues. (For the record a little birdy tells me he did the same to Canberra) Some of the natives obviously didn't like this and got a bit upset as he was supposidly just "throwing in tags without really considering if they were necessary." Maybe if Aaronclick removed unsourced info it would cause quite a stir.... Maybe if we started work on Australia along with Canberra we could save some work for our selves when FAR comes around. Just a thought. Do you have any idea when you think the articles would come around for FAR? Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 11:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strange you didn't tell me who the complainant was and I didn't think that Tony1 would be it. NeEvertheless there are lots of unsourced stats there which need reffing. I see at WP:URFA there are 9 WP:AUS FAs that were written in 2005 and were unreviewed. At the rate that those are being nominated, I would predict that about 60% of those 2005 FAs will be nominated by the end of this year, so 6 Australian FAs will be in trouble. At the moment I don't think any of them pass the standard, not by a long shot, although I won't be closing those FARs as I would be trying to salvage them. Most of them are short-looking flora/fauna articles a la cane toad and Lake Burley Griffin and might need a complete expansion. Quite a lot of them are Canberra articles. Need to get the locals involved but judging by the response to LBG and Cane toad on AWNB I think it's inevitable that some won't be saved unless there is a broader set of people chipping in. Bilby can't do 70% of the work unless he is going to rewrite about 50% of the FAs as a lot of them were/are unbalanced and had odd sections while missing important stuff. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Even things like Bodyline, Bill O'Reilly and Don Bradman need a content overhaul although only a cricket enthusiast would know that there is missing content. For a lot of FAs I wrote even last year I am discovering all sorts of content and and adding more all the time. A lot of the FAs could have content problems that aren't known unless a would-be reviewer or revamper read up on [10+] books about it an the general topic, or unless there is an expert who has already read 20+ books. I also have an excel file with a list of Australian FAs by citation density, although citation density is only one of the potential problems. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nightmares and headaches

Please, please, please re-protect the Philippines. I have a dreadful feeling the nightmare is going to happen again.--23prootie (talk) 15:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grrr....A long term solution and plan needs to be found YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

Are you still reviewing this article for GA? It has been on "under review" status (but not hold) for quite some time. Thanks. 23:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, back on it YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow

FAR is back on track!


The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
YellowMonkey's work at FAR is impossibly excellent, especially on Lake Burley Griffin. ceranthor 00:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, although I wouldn't say that FAR is back on track if you mean preserving stars. Most are outmoded and haven't been improved since they passed three years ago, so FAR is more a result of three years of apathy than anything. Only 15% of articles at FAR have been saved since the start of May; it's the result of a whole generation of articles not moving enough with rising standards. I've only got enough time to try and fix some old Australian FAs and it's mostly up to the WikiProjects to fix their old FAs. Only the Australian one does FA saves, and Yannismarou does the Greek ones all by himself. But even then, although all seven Aus FARs since late 2007 have or will be saved, the continual rise of FA standards means that a lot more have been rendered unsatsfactory and will be inevitably be FARed once they all pile up. WP:INDIA has lost 20 in the last 24 months and the FA count has stayed stuck to around 65 for the last two years. The same thing could happen to Australia if there an underclass of FAs gets left behind because it's hard to deal with lots of FARs at once on the run unless there are a lot of people from the same WikiProject all working on them. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, mav's been doing a nice job with the US national park articles. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's true, his articles haven't been here much recently. He's one of the few to fix it YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

23prootie

Hi Yellowmonkey, 23prootie (talk · contribs), who you blocked for edit warring back in February has returned to their bad old ways. I've reported this at ANI, but it has been unactioned for over 24 hours and the edit warring is, if anything, accelerating. If you have time, could you please look into this? The ANI thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:23prootie edit warring again. Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 08:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I had forgotten him about. He made some comments just a few days ago on my page here but I didn't recognise him. 1 week. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for looking into this. Nick-D (talk) 05:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need FAR help?

I'm probably going to regret saying this, but I'm willing to pitch in at FAR, since you seem to have set yourself up with a pile of work. What's the best way for someone new to FAR to help out? Is there a checklist or a priority list? The more specific, the better -- I don't do well with vague instructions, but if you give me detailed requirements, I can be John Henry. JKBrooks85 (talk) 10:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well in short I list the ones that need review at User:Deckiller/FAC_urgents. Basically what happens at FAR is people tend to pick out the most deficient articles first (usually ones with no refs) and they make a very short nomination statement in maybe 5 minutes (since the articles are usually GA quick-fail standard there isn't a need to spend 40 minutes writing up every problem and subtlely if nobody cares). In most cases, nobody does care which is why the article hasn't changed for 3 years and is in such a state. If they do care, then they will do some fixes to get the basics in order and try to save it. This is where the problem is because most people do a five-minute review job of a way old FA because the deficiencies are so obvious, and in 75% of cases, nobody wants to fix the article up big time so then in the FARC voting stage they can just do a driveby "delist"; nothing else is needed really, it's just like PROD. But if they do some fixes and references often the reviewers don't check too hard to see if the references actually work or cover the material or things and so a apathetic keep often results due to incumbency. I've also ranted at the bottom of WT:FAR and linked to an earlier post about inertial/friction tactics at FAR. A lot of the time the article is all formatted inconsistently, and people will only fix up the exact examples of center/centre that one cites and then they come back and act blind again until you point out organise/organize and then June 3/3 June just do that until the reviewer gets pissed off and thinks "I don't want to fix this article for them" so they just fade away, and the article gets kept. Your FAs are way better than most of the old ones that have been half-shoddily-cleaned up so you can just do it analogously to a FAC and look for problems still outstanding and just deal with it in the same way. I should really get my FAR FAQ page done. It'll save a lot of time. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


saucing (sourcing) award

The Added Sauce Award
for adding lots of sources (sauces) to the Sydney Roosters and Lake Burley Griffin articles. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS: All things considered, 15% is pretty good for saves at FAR considering the radical shift in standards. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Don't you that know monkeys are vegetarians????" So says Monkey in Monkey (TV series) in Episode 4 "Monkey Swallows the Universe" when someone is afraid he will eat him! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I would say that the clean sheet by WP:AUS is pretty good but more pro-active stuff will have to be done. In the bit above I said to Aaron that I expect about 6-7 more Australian FARs this year....Fauna of Australia being the least referenced of them...is only a matter of time....We'll be hard pressed to keep the clean sheet going, but it would be good. All eminently doable really as long as we subscribe to a pro-active culture of self-improvement without waiting for the threat of the star-debt-collector. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, is there a template for that award? If not, very creative! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't, but I placed it on one of the award pages (Personal User one I think) - I was going to use
this one, but I think I will reserve this for improvements on sourcing of fungi articles (mushrooms with sauces, hehehehe)
...I am sure there are some good pix of nice curries...to improve the saucing of subcontinent articles..as there are over 500 sauce pix on commons... (gawd, I crack myself up sometimes...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha - so you're Monkey, Sandy can be....sandy, who is Pigsy and who is Tripitaka then...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]