User talk:Nyttend

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Barnesville Petroglyph

I think I simply sent the following response to my User talk rather than to you. As indicated I am not yet comfortable with the Talk process:

Thanks for the additional help and I will try re-editing the Barnesville Petroglyph article. It is not so much Swauger whose conclusions were incorrect but he did complicate matters by including the designs on the second ("lost") rock, which he later found. The 113 number (he also uses 114 on one of his diagrams), for example, actually includes the designs on both rocks. I think this is clarified in the Ohio Archaeologist article, which is, incidentally, available on the web, if you google on "Murphy lost Barnesville."

Yes, that is my COS profile and I certainly don't mind identifying myself. I am still somewhat perplexed by how the Talk function works but gather that "editing" is "replying."

One question: when I am prepared to re-edit the Barnesville Petroglyph article, it would be simpler to Undo your edit and re-edit my previous version, since you essentially restored the original. This this considered acceptable?

Jim Jlmurphyosu (talk) 18:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlmurphyosu (talk • contribs)

Thanks for restoring the Barnesville Petroglyph edit. There are a few things I will add/change. The confusion over the number of carvings on each rock remains. Also the "charcoal" vs. black paint. And I will indicate ownership by the Archaeological Conservancy. Thanks for your help with this. Jim Jlmurphyosu (talk) 14:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Declined speedy of tsunami article

G'day from Oz; regardless of the usefulness of the article, the creator is one of about two dozen sockpuppets of User:Ryan kirkpatrick. Another admin has deleted two other just-as-useful articles created by BriitshNO1. As far as I can tell, deleting such articles is WP policy; don't you think that it's time to get tough on this guy? YSSYguy (talk) 00:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Since you declined the speedy deletion, the only editors of the article apart from your good self have been IP socks of Ryan. YSSYguy (talk) 13:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Fraunhofer diffraction calculations

I have twice tried to create a subuser page in which to develop this article. It was deleted first time before I got a chance to put anything in (I had to rush away for my dinner!!). I did put an explanation in the talk page hoping it would be undeleted, but got no reply.

I then created it with a slightly different (corrected) name and added the stuff I've written so far. But now I find it has been converted to a full article, which I certainly did not want as there is much work to be done,and I haven't fully checked the mathematics. I have put a note to that effect on the page, but would really much prefer if it existed as one of my sub-pages, as I don't want anyone to waste their time going through mathematical derivations which are wrong.

I obviously have not got this sub-page business! Though I have created two without any problems, so is this jsut down to minor errors on my part?

I'm not sure who did the conversion as it appears that you deleted it.

I don't want to commit a Wiki-sin but what I would really like is to have my sub user-page back. Can you help.

The new page is at link to the live page

ThanksEpzcaw (talk) 20:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Obviously all my fault - I intended to create a sub-user page, but didn't.

I see that you have now put it in its proper place - thanks.

I need to find out again how to create a sub-user pages. Not always easy to get information on Wikepedia, I find. But will try harder....... Epzcaw (talk) 23:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Mitchell County Citys

Hi, I have edited the Mitchell County Municipalities again. I live in the area and have great understanding of the countie's geography, as well as Mitchell County's Historical Records. Sales City is a incorporated city in norntern Mitchell County. It is self governing. Meigs is not shared with Mitchell County at all, however Vada is shared with Decatur County. All other locations are unincorporated and clearly identified by road markers on the major Georgia highways. --Violeta123321 (talk) 03:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Mitchell County considers Sales City to be a city such as Camilla and Pelham. Upon entering the area it has a 'city limits' sign, but if the census considers it a town I understand. Vada is most definatly in Mitchell County if Meigs is, half of Vada is in Mitchell County. The county doesn't consider Meigs to be a part of Mitchell County. I find it odd that the census would, considering that if a part of it sits over the county line it is a very small part. Then again many rural areas of counties have out-of-county adresses. Anna, Baker County, for instance has a Leary, Ga adress...even though it's no where near Leary. Technically if the census deems it to be a part (a very small part) of the county it should be included. Thanks. --Violeta123321 (talk) 04:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

If 'city' and 'town' are interchangeable, why does it matter if Sales City is considered a 'city' instead of a 'town'? I know that the Mitchell County part of Meigs isn't an unincorporated town. My example was of how out of county citys can have adresses in the area's home county. I've never seen this city limit sign, I'll have to investigate. I would trust the cenus with these matters, however, In many of my regional studies Google maps are highly incorect in South West Ga, as it seems to be in other rural areas. (Roads that no longer exist, county roads with wrong names/no names, incorect town location...ect.) --Violeta123321 (talk) 04:28, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Interesting, I'll have to ask the Mitchell County municipalities department why this is. (considering they themselves don't condsider it a part of the county) As far as the legality issue, I've always heard Sales City to be considered a city due to its incorporated status, but I'll put more research into it. (And I'll take your word for it. :) ) And it's no problem, sorry I missunderstood the 'unoffical terms'. It can be hard to keep up with the incorporation and unincorporation of our municipalities, as they cange ever so often. Towns dry up quickly and become unincorporated and city and town limits are always expanding and/or shrinking. If you drove into our area's largest city, Albany, from Gillionville unincorporated you would see three 'Albany City Limits' signs. Only one, however, is correct. (It is the last one, everything before it falls into the municipality of Gillionville) It isn't hard to tell that regional studies students and historical society workers as my self can get very confused! Thanks for the help. --Violeta123321 (talk) 04:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

CommonsNotificationBot issue

Unfortunately, due to rate limit issues I'm only monitoring the categories the deletion is placed in - getting the reason from the tag at this stage caused the bot to slow to a crawl (making it a bit useless). I am working on resolving this issue - but I will update the template it places to make this clear in the mean time. Thanks! --Errant ^(chat!) 12:36, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, okay; since this is what you meant it to do, no complaints. The bot is a great idea; thanks! Nyttend (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) If you have any other ideas for improvement please do let me know. Sometime next week I hope to find a free hour to add some new bits. --Errant ^(chat!) 14:36, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Barnesville/Tower sites

The Barnesville Petroglyph site was purchased by the Archaeological Conservancy (I think in 1999). That is one of the things I want to add to the Barnesville Petroglyph entry but I am not sure how soon I'll get back to revising it; I may have to do it piece-meal. The site is readily accessible and often visited by local people without permission. I got permission kind of after the fact, at least after my first visit, from Josh McConaughy who is with the Conservancy's Columbus office. I remember chiding him somewhat about preserving the carvings but there is no practical way of doing so without inviting vandalism.

As for the Tower Site, I think it is still owned by a coal company. I believe it was R & F Coal but they went out of business. There actually aren't many coal companies left in southeastern Ohio but I will have to check into who owns it now.

Jim Jlmurphyosu (talk) 14:50, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Forum User subpages at MFD

And tell me why you think this gets a free pass from WP:STALEDRAFT, particularly since Forum User hasn't edited since 2007. Oh wait, IT DOESN'T. Get your head on straight. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 15:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Okay, i'm sorry, that was over the line. But still, what makes you think the page circumvents WP:STALEDRAFT? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:31, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

RE:All your Franklin County photos

Thanks for the message! I was bored one weekend and I noticed how many NRHP locations in Franklin County were missing photos. It's become something of a scavenger hunt now. Thank you for fixing the title of the Galbreath mound. The Cannon and Galbreath are very close and I got them backwards. Hopefully I'll have some photos of the Cannon Mound soon. I also have photos and information on the Coe Mound but it's one of the few on the NRHP that's really not been publicly identified so I was wrestling with if I should release that information or not.

PS let me know if I'm doing anything wrong. I'm very new to contributing to Wikipedia and it's got a little bit of a learning curve. :) - wdzinc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wdzinc (talk • contribs) 14:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

List of massacres in Libya

I find a list with one item rather useless: List of massacres in Libya. The only item in the list lacks a source, and the number is actually a very broad estimate that's based mostly on the account of a single former detainee. Also, I doubt that people will be able to come up with more credible items. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StopWarCrimes (talk • contribs) 12:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying! StopWarCrimes (talk) 13:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Van Wagoner

Hello! Your submission of William Van Wagoner at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 03:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Did you seriously think that all that Midwestern editing could keep anyone awake? But I'm sleepy too, and I'll look in more detail at y'all's comments later. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

NRHP Wade Park

Look, I understand what you and EurekaLott are both saying, but the fact of the matter is that A)Wade Park doesn't have a separate article right now, and B)The NRHP Infobox clearly states that it is Wade Park. I don't know how much time you've spent in Cleveland, but I'm from there, and the museum is located in Wade Park -- the park itself essentially serves as the museum campus, not unlike the section of Grant and Burnham Parks do here in Chicago. Wade Park's historic status owes as much to the museums that occupy it as it does anything else (Jeptha Wade gave the city the park property to build a museum on it).

As the founding member of WikiProject Cleveland, I'm asking you to leave the infobox in place for the time being at very least - until a Wade Park article can be constructed (I don't want it to just be some token stub). Thank you Ryecatcher773 (talk) 17:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of James R. Wigginton

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Talkback

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Wade Park

The whole point is that the park is much more than the museum (it's more than 10% of a square mile), so it's a significantly different entity from the museum itself. Because there's no article on the HD, we shouldn't have its infobox anywhere at all. Granted, we shouldn't have a stub for the sole purpose of filling a hole, but we also shouldn't pretend that another article fills that hole either. Nyttend (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

You are partially correct in your assertion made in the edit summary for the Wade Park article - the park isn't the entire district, but you are also partially incorrect. You're saying: The park itself is not the district, and the National Register database indicates that the park isn't even part of the district where that I underlined is where you're erring. The NRHP website lists this: Roughly bounded by E. 105 St., East Blvd., Chester and Euclid Aves. , Cleveland ('650 acres, 7 buildings, 1 structure)' Unless we are looking at different NRHP websites, and you haven't either spent time in Cleveland or ,at the very least, looked at trhe area in question on the map, then you're not taking into account two three things: 1) the 650 acres includes Wade Park (Google Map it). 2) The name Wade Park District explicitly (and even implicitly if you're familiar firsthand with the history of Cleveland). 3) (and this is related to my second point regarding a familiarity with the history of Cleveland) Jeptha Wade's property, which is where Wade Park is and the heart of the district in question, was the seed from where all the buildings in the district sprung from. The CMA, Botanical Gardens, Natural History Museum and Severance Hall, which all are part of the district, would not be there if Wade Park wasn't set aside to be the cultural epicenter that garnered it's NRHP entry.

Lastly, given that any one of the buildings listed on the registry are technically part of the WPHD, there would be no false information by including the NRHP infobox on any of those articles -- which was my entire point of putting it on the CMA article in the first place. The infobox being clearly labelled as Wade Park District is not misleading by including it on a building that is part of the district. We could argue about this ad nauseam. But what's the point?

Of course I can make an entire article that covers the district specifically. But why just regurgitate the same stuff found in each individual Wikipedia article that exists for every building that is in the HD (including the Wade Park itself)? Bandwdith pollution notwithstanding, it is simply redundant. Or we could make it less redundant by simply putting the infobox in one of the articles already out there... and the Wade Park article being the namesake for the HD would make the most sense (the article is hardly complete, and could be expanded to include an entire section specifically about the HD and relationship bewteen the two)... and if not that article than the CMA which is the largest building in the HD, and the reason I put it there in the first. Either way, the underlying question in this argument that I have for you is this: how is it productive in our task as Wikipedians, and moreover as members of Ohio-specific Wikprojects, to keep adding and removing factual info from articles with direct relationships to the subject of our debate? Are we trying to make Wikpedia a more informative user-based encyclopedia, or are we nitpicking over how to make a piece of factual information, that is an important part of a large US City, available to those who are looking at Wikipedia for information? Ryecatcher773 (talk) 06:51, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Martin Wines

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 08:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Revert at 1972

Hi Nyttend, admittedly I didn't even try to check all the recent edits of 24.209.198.223, but the one you reverted at 1972 was a good edit – the anonymous user removed two red-linked names. Therefore I've reverted your edit to that page. Graham87 14:32, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

This user's edits seem more like a mix of good and bad edits to me ... which makes things more frustrating. Either that or I'm not thinking straight. :-) Graham87 14:45, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Centralized discussion of some census-related issues

Hi. With the 2010 Census data becoming a focus for a lot of editing activity, I think we need a US-wide discussion of editing conventions -- in lieu of the localized edit warring that's been happening in various articles and templates. I've started this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States, which I think is an appropriate venue for it. First topic there is Describing/naming census designated places. Please participate in that discussion, if you see fit, and add more topics. --Orlady (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Protection request

I semi-protected for 2 weeks. Although it is not listed at GNIS, it may be that it does meet notability (have not had much time to look at refs). I also heard from and replied in some detail at User talk:Keizers#Re_Buford_Highway. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Re; Barnhill picture

Thanks for the kind words. I was in Dover on vacation with my camera and had some free time, so thought I'd look to see if there were any pics needed in the area. It was a bit of a challenge, since I expected there to be a central business district; I drove through twice before spotting apparently the only public building (aside from a church and a storage business), and I was about to use a photo of the village limit sign instead.

I do have one semi-newbie question: I made some edits under my IP before registering ([1]) and would like to "claim" them now that I have registered. Do you know if that's possible, and if so, how to go about it? Floatjon (talk) 04:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, that was actually very helpful -- the redirects were good enough to do what I needed. Floatjon (talk) 22:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Shakhtar Donetsk.png

Hi!Please,stop deleting this file.This image is not much larger(only 10 KB). Alex (talk) 12:08, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I reduced the file's size.(42 KB).Can i upload it???(you will not delete it???) Alex (talk) 12:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Please delete File:Shakhtar Donetsk.png. I uploaded smaller one. Alex (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Alex95-Ukraine (talk) 13:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

File:FC_Dynamo_Kyiv_logo.png

Can you delete this file from Commons?? I uploaded on Commons smaller one. Alex (talk) 14:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Elmendorf Air Force Base

I was trying to get the article renamed to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, which is now a #redirect, not move it into talk space :) The instructions were to put that notice on the talk page. Sorry if there were any confusion.

Regards Bwmoll3 (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

90% illustrated lists

If you know of any 90%+ completed lists, please add them to the list just below the fully illustrated NRHP lists. BTW, if you've noticed me recently spending more time BSing than adding content, I'm coming off the injured reserve list tomorrow. Smallbones (talk) 03:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jean Thurel

Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

File:TDright.svg

Thanks for the delete and the tip on db-g7. Vanisaac (talk) 13:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Next Children's Museum Backstage Pass

Hello! I wanted to personally invite you to The Children's Museum of Indianapolis' 2nd Backstage Pass and Edit-a-Thon, which will occur on Saturday, August 20. The Wikipedian in Residence project is coming up on one year and is going strong. While the first year focused on garnering institutional enthusiasm among staff, organizing multiple content donations, and guiding teens in research and article creation, the next year will focus on establishing an E-Volunteer program and more deliberately connecting with local Wikipedians and WikiProjects around the world. You can read a summary of our projects on the museum's blog, or visit the project page.

We hope you're able to attend the upcoming Backstage Pass! If you're not able to attend, but are interested in remaining involved and up to date on the museum's Wikipedia project, please sign up on our E-Volunteer page. There will also be an opportunity to participate in the Edit-a-Thon online, if you cannot attend on-site. If you'd like to make a request for images or research content from our curators, you can add to the Requests page. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope to be in touch! LoriLee (talk) 11:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry I did not reply sooner; I see that you did go ahead and sign up, which was going to be my suggestion. I will be checking in to confirm about a week prior, so it's no big deal if you have to decline. Though I hope that you are able to make it! If you have any questions in the meantime let me know. I will, however, be at Wikimania for the first week and a half of August, so will be less reliable at that point in time. Thanks for touching base! LoriLee (talk) 11:08, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Totally understand. I'm thrilled that the event is on a Saturday this time so that more people can likely attend, though I knew that a summer weekend could pose its own problems. Safe travels in the meantime! LoriLee (talk) 11:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen that we got the Broad Ripple Park Carousel article to Featured Article? (Though only with User:Ealdgyth's help taking the project on! I'm pretty thrilled by that. We also have a QRpedia code up in that exhibit now. Glad you'll get to see it! LoriLee (talk) 11:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for William Van Wagoner

EncycloPetey (talk) 08:02, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Hopewell template Osborn Site

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Mitchell County, Georgia-Historical Towns

Hi,

I changed the 'ghost towns' back to 'historical towns' on the Mitchell County, Ga template. These areas are still populated, therefore not ghost towns. The areas were once vastly populated incorporated places, but now have dropped below incorporated and unincorporated. Saco, for instance relies on the nearest unincorporated town to vote (Cotton), although if asked the resident will say he/she is from Saco. The county considers them historically important and have published histories in the Mitchell County History Book...which I will add as soon as I get my hands on a copy! Anyway, I would consider 'historical town' to be more accurate, but I'm willing to listen to your reasoning if you think otherwise.

regards, v. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Violeta123321 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha, next time I'll add those into unincorporated communities. Thanks! :) --Violeta123321 (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

List of residences in Emmerdale

You are receiving this notice because you are a significant contributor (at least two edits) this year to this article. The article has been tagged for months now as suffering from a number of problems. Fixing these is crucial to the very existence of the article. Notice of this was placed on the article's talk page in March of this year without subsequent response. Notice of this was placed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Emmerdale at the same time, without subsequent response. This is a last ditch effort to get those people most interested in the existence of this article to fix the extant problems before it is placed for deletion. If you can, please address the article failings as highlighted in the warning boxes at the top of the article within the near future. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 19:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Pic of Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion

Hey buddy ... working on West Virginia. Glad to see the pics you added for the Wellsburg listings. While preparing Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion, it seemed to me that the pic posted on the list did not match the description since it doesn't look to be Spanish Colonial in style. See the pic included near the end of the NRHP nom form. From what I can tell, the pic you have on the Brooke County list page, File:Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion from the northwest.jpg looks more like the Lewis Hall Mansion, see pic in NRHP nom form Are you able to confirm this? Thanks in advance.--Pubdog (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Glad you had a fun trip! I see the "1312" on the front and agree you have the right address. Please take a moment to compare File:Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion front.jpg with the pic at the end of the Lewis Hall NRHP nom form. Now compare that with the Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion pic included near the end of the NRHP nom form. I think you'll agree something is messed up. Perhaps the addresses in the nomination forms, or perhaps they renumbered since 1985? I'm reluctant to include the pic you recommend in the Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion article.--Pubdog (talk) 16:34, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Looking at your File:Lewis Hall Mansion.jpg, that is the Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion. I can tell it is a Spanish Colonial and from what I can see from your pic, I can tell it has the tile roof, etc. It also looks very much to be like the Harry and Louisiana Beall Paull Mansion pic included near the end of the NRHP nom form. Please advise--Pubdog (talk) 16:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for following up on this. I posted a second look request at all this on WP:NRHP. I haven't run across anything else that seems awry.--Pubdog (talk) 18:23, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the pic category changes. I will refrain from doing more. Thanks for pointing me to the additional images of the Lucy Tarr Mansion. Added as Gallery to article. Cheers--Pubdog (talk) 18:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Ridiculous behaviour

Blocking someone for 3RR without bothering to examine the content is lazy at best and malicious at worst. It is also desperately irresponsible and extremely stupid. I see that your userpage doesn't mark you as eligible for admin recall, and I must say I don't blame you for that decision if you're going to behave so foolishly: you'd be having recall requests every other week if your decision to block without checking out the situation was typical, and nobody would want that now, would they!
I'm very serious: don't ever block someone again unless you're willing to take the 90 seconds necessary to look into the facts.
As you will shortly notice from my userpage, I am leaving Wikipedia over this. Over your block. So when my various stalkers turn up to congratulate you, I hope that you at least will have the decency to look over my contributions to articles, to look over what I've done, and conclude that you are the individual who is responsible for my departure.
That's all, and now you may get back to whatever you're doing. ╟─TreasuryTag►Clerk of the Parliaments─╢ 14:54, 24 July 2011 (UTC)