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Urvashi rautela content
Hi Stardivarius, This is prashant manager of urvashi rautela who handle her all online activities and promotion. The few content was wrong and mention for un necessary reason. The ref video was upload as youtube ref. Her official website is under progress. The Rautela was subsequently dethroned is unwanted news. My email id is prashant.biz@gmail.com and Urvashi Rautela <rautelaurvashi@gmail.com> is the actual id of urvashi if you want cross verify you can mail her directly. ImUrvashiRautela i am trying to recorrect and update unwanted news. You can suggest how to improvise and avoid unwanted content that affect urvashi as a women who is growing public figure in India. You can check Mar 2, 2015, 12.00AM IST TNN content in leading paper http://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/food/food-reviews/Ahmedabad-celebrates-the-best-of-food/articleshow/46419915.cms
{ Ahmedabad's most eagerly awaited annual event, the Times Food Awards 2015, just got bigger and better this year! On a pleasant evening, all roads led to the Courtyard by Marriott, Ahmedabad, the hospitality partner for the event. Bollywood heartthrob Ali Fazal and the gorgeous Urvashi Rautela, actress and Miss Universe India 2012, were the chief guests for the evening. } if she was dethroned in 2012 times of india wont mention in march 2 2015 as Urvashi Rautela, actress and Miss Universe India 2012.
So humble request please dont put back dethroned words again which affect somebody public figure career.
Regards Prashant — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImUrvashiRautela (talk • contribs) 17:12, March 3, 2015
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Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.
It looks like I'm the first person to use this module (here), which I thought was surprising! Many thanks for your many utility modules. Alakzi (talk) 16:54, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome. :) I guess I never advertised it. Let me know if you find any bugs, and if you feel like implementing the symmDiff function, please feel free. ;) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:15, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- Good news - I might've uncovered an itsy bitsy bug in
valueIntersection
. Duplicates are not removed till the very end, so if any of its arguments contain duplicates, they become part of the intersection. For instance, the return value ofp.valueIntersection({"b", "c"}, {"a", "a", "c"})
is{"a", "c"}
. I'm quite the Lua amateur, so I'll leave it to you to fix in whichever way you feel best. Alakzi (talk) 14:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC) [Sets also used extensively here now. Alakzi (talk) 19:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)]- @Alakzi: That's by design - sets are collections of distinct objects, so a set of {a,a,c} is the same thing as a set of {a,c}. That is, unless I've made a horrible mistake. :) If you need to find shared values between two tables while preserving duplicates, I'm afraid you might have to roll your own function. (I'm not aware of any modules that do that at the moment, at any rate.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think you might've misunderstood; the module is preserving duplicates in tables. The output of the intersection between {a,a,c} and {b,c} is {a,c}, whereas it should be {c}. Alakzi (talk) 10:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, of course. I'll take a look at that now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:41, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: Well, it ended up being two and a half weeks rather than "now", but I've fixed the duplication bug. In the process of fixing it, I also discovered a similar bug in valueComplement, and a bad variable name in valueIntersection that had been undiscovered up until now, both of which are also now fixed. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:39, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, of course. I'll take a look at that now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:41, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think you might've misunderstood; the module is preserving duplicates in tables. The output of the intersection between {a,a,c} and {b,c} is {a,c}, whereas it should be {c}. Alakzi (talk) 10:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: That's by design - sets are collections of distinct objects, so a set of {a,a,c} is the same thing as a set of {a,c}. That is, unless I've made a horrible mistake. :) If you need to find shared values between two tables while preserving duplicates, I'm afraid you might have to roll your own function. (I'm not aware of any modules that do that at the moment, at any rate.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Good news - I might've uncovered an itsy bitsy bug in
Signpost (8)
How's the tagger going? It's currently freezing the contents of the page for me without displaying anything, but I don't know if that's because of a bug you are aware of and working on or because you're testing things out. In web console the error seems to be "TypeError: dialog.luaTitle is undefined". I'll have a lot less time to spend on this once the summer is over, so I hope you're getting close.
It's not related to article tagging, but I wrote something too this week—an FC importer script. ResMar 18:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, it's broken at the moment, so it's quite likely that it will stop all your other scripts from running. I'm in the middle of restructuring it more sensibly so that the Dialog class isn't doing all the work, which might take a bit more time yet. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Script stuff
Strangest of strange things, the close/relist AfD and Delsort script now seem to work and I did not refresh or logout/login since the time I noticed the problem! There seems to be a minor issue with the Delsort script in that it hasn't picked up the selected options, but no biggie. However, I do remember having this nice template link on the top menu that took me to the admin dashboard and that has disappeared, it's the admindash script from Plastikspork on my monobook.js. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Let's go with the Delsort script first. Which one are you using, and which options do you mean? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:45, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm using User:Fox Wilson/delsort-monobook.js and it has the ability to just select a few lists rather than having to go through the whole list every time, I have India (WP:DSI) and Cricket (WP:DSC) as choices, but it shows the whole list on the sidebar and not just these two. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:54, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Ok, I've had some time to look at the delsort code, and it appears that the way you describe is the way that it has always worked. You can add extra choices to the delsort list from your personal js page, but you can't remove any of the default options. (I've added a note to the documentation about this.) Probably the best way to get this fixed is to leave Fox Wilson a message on his talk page - he still seems to be around on and off. I could do it myself, but I'd prefer to focus on code that is actually broken first, rather than feature requests. Which brings us to the admindash script - I'll have a look at this probably later on today. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: I've played around with the admindash script, and it looks as though a MediaWiki bug has stopped it from working. It's working in the Vector skin, but not any of the others. I'll have a poke around the MediaWiki code later on to see if I can work out what's wrong. (Whatever it is, I think it must be affecting all scripts, not just this one, so it's definitely worth the effort.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:38, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, From the history of my monobook it appears i had to switch delsort scripts because the old one stopped working and that is likely the reason for my confusion. That is also very likely linked to your other point about the mediawiki issue with non vector skins. I'm guessing that I'm one of the last few holdouts against vector so this may not bea big problem. Thanks again for checking thisout. Cheers --—SpacemanSpiff 06:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Actually, it turns out that the script only working in vector was more of a PEBKAC problem than a MediaWiki problem - I was trying to load scripts via my vector.js page, which of course isn't going to work in Monobook. Testing it from my common.js page, it works just fine. Does the link appear for you? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:25, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've transferred my scripts to common.js, everything else seems to work except the admin dash (when I use monobook; have also done the usual logout, refresh/bypass cache etc), but this is more likely a Ten-T error on my part than anything else, I'll figure out where I've gone wrong on this. Eitherways, I'll probably switch to vector soon (once I get myself to accept that the eyesore of the skin is more functional!), so this problem isn't likely to exist much longer. Thanks again for your patient help! cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Aha, on actually trying out your setup, it seems that your use of
defineLink
was causing errors, as the function in Fox Wilson's delsort script had not yet loaded. I've made this edit to add the code specified in the docs, which should fix it. Is the admin dashboard link appearing for you now? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:35, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Aha, on actually trying out your setup, it seems that your use of
- I've transferred my scripts to common.js, everything else seems to work except the admin dash (when I use monobook; have also done the usual logout, refresh/bypass cache etc), but this is more likely a Ten-T error on my part than anything else, I'll figure out where I've gone wrong on this. Eitherways, I'll probably switch to vector soon (once I get myself to accept that the eyesore of the skin is more functional!), so this problem isn't likely to exist much longer. Thanks again for your patient help! cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 16:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Actually, it turns out that the script only working in vector was more of a PEBKAC problem than a MediaWiki problem - I was trying to load scripts via my vector.js page, which of course isn't going to work in Monobook. Testing it from my common.js page, it works just fine. Does the link appear for you? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:25, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, From the history of my monobook it appears i had to switch delsort scripts because the old one stopped working and that is likely the reason for my confusion. That is also very likely linked to your other point about the mediawiki issue with non vector skins. I'm guessing that I'm one of the last few holdouts against vector so this may not bea big problem. Thanks again for checking thisout. Cheers --—SpacemanSpiff 06:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: I've played around with the admindash script, and it looks as though a MediaWiki bug has stopped it from working. It's working in the Vector skin, but not any of the others. I'll have a poke around the MediaWiki code later on to see if I can work out what's wrong. (Whatever it is, I think it must be affecting all scripts, not just this one, so it's definitely worth the effort.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:38, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Ok, I've had some time to look at the delsort code, and it appears that the way you describe is the way that it has always worked. You can add extra choices to the delsort list from your personal js page, but you can't remove any of the default options. (I've added a note to the documentation about this.) Probably the best way to get this fixed is to leave Fox Wilson a message on his talk page - he still seems to be around on and off. I could do it myself, but I'd prefer to focus on code that is actually broken first, rather than feature requests. Which brings us to the admindash script - I'll have a look at this probably later on today. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm using User:Fox Wilson/delsort-monobook.js and it has the ability to just select a few lists rather than having to go through the whole list every time, I have India (WP:DSI) and Cricket (WP:DSC) as choices, but it shows the whole list on the sidebar and not just these two. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:54, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes it is working now -- on my tablet, but i'm guessing it shouldnt be a problem on my computer. Thank you very very much! —SpacemanSpiff 08:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Marreese Speights vandalism fest
Hi, Mr. Strad. I just noticed that we have had a vandalism fest ongoing at the Marreese Speights article for the last two days. Apparently Speights must a dunk in a high-profile NBA game, and every self-perceived funnyman in North America has decided to mess with his Wikipedia article. Can you put the article on an appropriate level of lockdown so that IPs and newly registered users cannot continue to vandalize it? Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Nevermind, sir. The newbie admin, NeilN, jumped on it. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:49, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Heh. Saw it at WP:RFPP. --NeilN talk to me 04:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Neil. Recently RFPP is not that fast to respond, but apparently there's a new sheriff in town. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:59, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know about that. I see a lot of processed reports by CambridgeBayWeather and other admins. Hopefully many hands make light work and all that. --NeilN talk to me 05:20, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Neil. Recently RFPP is not that fast to respond, but apparently there's a new sheriff in town. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:59, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Heh. Saw it at WP:RFPP. --NeilN talk to me 04:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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Template translation help?
I've been trying to translate {{User8}} into French as fr:Modèle:U8, but I can't seem to get the languages to work properly - it works as expected with no project set, but setting English as the project results in Utilisateur:Nikkimaria instead of User:Nikkimaria. Any idea how to fix this? Thanks, Nikkimaria (talk) 19:01, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: These edits should fix it.[8][9] "User" and "User talk" are the canonical namespace names as well as the localised English names, so they will work on every project. As long as "User" and "User talk" aren't displayed in the template output, it's fine to use them on other-language wikis. You could also check for the
{{{Projet}}}
parameter and use "User" or "Utilisateur" accordingly, but the simplest way is just to stick with canonical namespace names. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:26, 11 June 2015 (UTC)- Better, but the contribs, edit-count and email are still French-only - any way to fix those? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: I've fixed the contribs, but the edit-count and email will be more difficult. You would need to pass
{{{Projet}}}
through to the subtemplates, and then adjust their output depending on it. That's a big change that I don't really feel comfortable making without being able to explain my actions in French. Plus, if you're going to do that, you may as well change the whole thing to use Module:UserLinks. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:02, 12 June 2015 (UTC)- If you can give me a step-by-step of whichever of those you think is better, I can explain it in French - it's the tech part I'm struggling with at the moment. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: I've fixed the contribs, but the edit-count and email will be more difficult. You would need to pass
- Better, but the contribs, edit-count and email are still French-only - any way to fix those? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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Endurance International Group
@CambridgeBayWeather:@CmdrSharp:@72.234.220.38:
hola Mr. Stradivarius and CambridgeBayWeather (and 72.234.220.38 & CmdrSharp).
I am Talking to question editing and some type of edit-war on the "Endurance International Group" wikipedia article.
I have read about and researched the company and see that the wikipedia article article is always changing. Sometimes it has a lot of infos, other times not.
I then read the talk page and see a lot of edits and "warning" between editors. I write you because you had "frozen" and reverted the editing based on request of some users.
But to me, these users seem to be wrong. Two users, "TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom" & "EvergreenFir" seem to be the ones who want to remove a lot of the information, other users such as "72.234.220.38" & "CmdrSharp" have disagreed but they do not seem to be as respected or have the power to change things. The best edits of this article seem to have come from "72.234.220.38" last month - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Endurance_International_Group&oldid=663398624 - but this editor seems to have given up. "72.234.220.38" and "CmdrSharp" and others have been in the Talk page, but their opinions, even some that show the correct Wikipedia rules on editing are not listened to and their edits are always removed. I think always by either "TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom" or "EvergreenFir".
I am not a good English speaker and it is hard to say that it seems others maybe trying to hide this company's informations? Perhaps not, and it still can be found in the History, but compare oldid=663398624 to the current article and you can see what I am thinking. Maybe I am wrong?
Can anyone step in and maybe try solve this? No one tried to do the mediation/arbitration that was mentioned in the Talk section. Is that the only way?
Nothing is perfect, but here to me it looks like "bad" has won over "not perfect".
I talk a lot so muchas gracias for your time & consideration.
Ricardo
- Hi Ricardo. The two users in question have been reverting the content because it was unacceptably promotional. The huge list of clients in this version, for example, seems calculated to make the company look good. Wikipedia isn't a place to advertise your company. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Mr. Stradivarius, gracias for the very rapid answer. What is not seen is that these are not list of clients. All these names are this company, "Endurance International Group". They are brands of the same one thing. They all belong to company. The reason the article (before being reverting by the two users) is interesting is it shows how big this internet company is by buying so many other smaller companies.
Maybe other users also confused that it is not advertizing clients?
The better article also has other numbers about finances that the current one does not have. This is muy excellent for researching.
I am just low reader, not editor, but can I propose putting back the better full article and asking other editors to work together to solve any problems?
Again, so much thanks for reading. I hope I do not take up too much of your time.
Ricardo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.159.192.85 (talk) 13:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
SpamUserPage gadget
I saw your notice at WP:AN#SpamUserPage gadget. Competition for the new Twinkle block module? ;-) I've been doing a lot of the type of RCP that your gadget is designed to help with, so I'll definitely try it out in the next few days. Thanks for putting in the programming effort. —SMALLJIM 17:15, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Suggestions
I have a few suggestions for SUPG:
- The link to SUPG in the block reason should be inside of an HTML comment so it doesn't show up for the blocked user.
- If the user has any non-deleted contributions other than their user page, the script should notify you somehow. (Perhaps send you to their contribs page instead of their talk page?)
- Maybe add "softerblock" and "causeblock" presets that work like the "soft" and "cause" links on WP:UAA. (I wrote these for myself in my common.js.)
Thoughts? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jackmcbarn: Good suggestions, thanks. :) I've implemented the first and the third because they were relatively easy, and I'll have a think about the second. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jackmcbarn: About the second suggestion - Anna Frodesiak mentioned that she will check on the user talk page for messages about the deleted article, so it's perhaps worth opening it even if the user does have non-deleted contributions. Perhaps if we detect any non-deleted contributions, then instead of going to the talk page automatically, we stop, output a warning saying "This user has n existing contributions", and give links to the contribs page and the user talk page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:04, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jackmcbarn: About the second suggestion - Anna Frodesiak mentioned that she will check on the user talk page for messages about the deleted article, so it's perhaps worth opening it even if the user does have non-deleted contributions. Perhaps if we detect any non-deleted contributions, then instead of going to the talk page automatically, we stop, output a warning saying "This user has n existing contributions", and give links to the contribs page and the user talk page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
soablock
When using the spam-only account preset, the non-existent {{soablock}} is posted to the user page instead of {{uw-soablock}}. See User talk:Anh83I08356288 where this happened for me. It looks as if the same may apply to {{adblock}} and maybe others. —SMALLJIM 18:50, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Smalljim: Whoops, not sure how that slipped through. The template names should all be fixed now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:03, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
User talk page spam
Quite a few spammers use their talk page instead of/as well as their user page, (e.g. User talk:SANSKAR BHARTI CONVENT SCHOOL - see deleted version) so would you reconsider its operation on UTPs? Maybe we could have a tickbox to confirm user talk page deletion if the gadget is invoked from that page and the spammer is the only contributor to it. And then perhaps provide an option to also delete the user page (and other userspace pages?) if they're also spammed. —SMALLJIM 10:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'll put that on the to-do list. :) The trick with user talk pages is making sure that they get deleted after you post the talk page notice, not before. That's not a problem with other pages, so you can delete and notify concurrently, but with user talk pages you have to take care of the order. Checking the page history adds to the complexity as well. It's a good idea, but I'll need a free afternoon for it. As for deleting multiple user pages at once, that would also be a fairly big coding job. Perhaps if there's a demand? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:27, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- (I think you should swap "before" and "after" in the 2nd sentence!) Don't let me force you: the important thing is that it's your gadget, so you must only do what you think is necessary - someone can fork it if they want to add functionality that you don't. It's the usual problem - KISS or bloat :) —SMALLJIM 11:39, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- Uh, yeah, before, not after. That's the one. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- (I think you should swap "before" and "after" in the 2nd sentence!) Don't let me force you: the important thing is that it's your gadget, so you must only do what you think is necessary - someone can fork it if they want to add functionality that you don't. It's the usual problem - KISS or bloat :) —SMALLJIM 11:39, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Database query errors
Twice now, when doing a Delete, block and notify, I've received red error messages against the "Blocking" item: Error: [nnnnnnnn] Database query error., and against the "Notifying" item: Error: There was an error while trying to block the user, so notification was aborted. In both cases the first item "Deleting" reports Done in green as expected.
The first time was a couple of days ago on Fonofriend (talk · contribs), when the error number was [31763314], and it's just happened again on ATC Healthcare International Corporation (talk · contribs) with an error number of [b7c90039]. In both cases there was no block recorded in the block log, but on trying to block again, there's an "already blocked" message: you can see this on the Fonofriend account - which I haven't touched since. On the second account, however, I have unblocked and reblocked, and the block log now shows the unblock and the new block, but no previous block.
It's only an intermittent problem (and one that I've never come across before), so I wonder if it's some sort of race condition, possibly due to attempting to block too soon after deleting the user page??? —SMALLJIM 11:49, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- This looks like a bug in the MediaWiki database code somewhere, and I'm guessing that you are right that it's a race condition. It also sounds like a bug that's hard to track down and fix, but one that could possibly be worked around by making deletion and blocking sequential instead of concurrent. I'll make the quick fix for now - fixing the underlying bug will be hard, especially as I don't know PHP or databases that well. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Smalljim: Ok, I've forced blocking to happen after deletion in the script. Let me know if you keep seeing these kinds of errors. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Okamoto Industries
Since i am new to writing articles in wiki i would be thankful if you could help me with re-structuring my page which was deleted i.e. Okamoto Industries,INC. MarkCalvert9749 (talk) 10:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- @MarkCalvert9749: You should probably submit it as a draft before it goes into the main article space - see Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Also, you need to make sure it's referenced and neutral - see Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. And if you have a conflict of interest, make sure you read our conflict of interest guidelines. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:55, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, so I'm thinking it's time to take the tagging to stage I: getting as much community input I can muster to help define all of the tags that we're going to be using. You can see the draft of the FTE that I plan to run next week here. Everything going well on your end? Thoughts? ResMar 23:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
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Just a nod of thanks from a random brony/autoconfirmed user
I noticed you set pending changes protection to stop the "persistent vandalism" (presumably by aptly named "anti-bronies") on one of my favorite pages, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom. I know it's your job to keep the wiki in order, but I figured you wouldn't mind the thanks anyway. Feel free to archive this immediately, as it doesn't really require a response. I'm just happy knowing I thanked you, regardless of recognition.--Macks2008 (talk) 04:57, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Macks2008: Not at all! It's good to know that my usually thankless task of patrolling WP:RFPP isn't quite so thankless after all. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:28, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well, thanks and... you're welcome? Yeah, why not. LOL :D... Say, do you have a bot that automatically posts a welcome message on new users' talk pages when they message you, or was that manual message on my talk page? Anyway, I'm glad I could make you feel better about what you do :-). Keep it up! Wikipedia is my go-to for information, and as I'm sure you're well aware, every bit helps.--Macks2008 (talk) 22:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Macks2008: That was manual... or rather, done with Twinkle. But I pushed the button, yes. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well, thanks and... you're welcome? Yeah, why not. LOL :D... Say, do you have a bot that automatically posts a welcome message on new users' talk pages when they message you, or was that manual message on my talk page? Anyway, I'm glad I could make you feel better about what you do :-). Keep it up! Wikipedia is my go-to for information, and as I'm sure you're well aware, every bit helps.--Macks2008 (talk) 22:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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For preventing the impending "bot armageddon" and going the extra mile to fix and update all the scripts and .js files - all you get is this barnstar that moves. - NQ (talk) 16:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC) |
- Thank you! I have to say, I actually feel pretty tired after fixing all those scripts. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 16:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
- Congratulations! And thank you for taking on that huge task. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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Searching user script pages
Hi, would you know if there's a way to compile a list of all user scripts where User:Dr pda/persondata.js is imported? insource:
doesn't seem to work with source code, like stylesheets, scripts and modules - perhaps those pages are not indexed at all. Alakzi (talk) 00:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: I remember trying to do something like this with an insource regex search, but I couldn't get it working. In the docs it says, "They aren't efficient and we only allow a few of them to run at a time on the search cluster", so perhaps that's why. The normal insource search just searches words, as you say, so there's no real difference between insource and normal searches for .js pages. Script imports don't show up in links or anything, so search is the only reliable way that I know of. You could try something like this - after some refining you should be able to get the false positives down to a reasonable level. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:09, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks again. I thought I'd message everyone that the script has been deprecated, but with 220 imports, it's probably easier to build some kind of notification into the script. Alakzi (talk) 01:27, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: You could just use a mass message - that's probably easier than altering the script. I can give you the user right if you like, as you seem trusted enough and technically savvy enough. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:39, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- We could try that - though I'm beginning to wonder if many would actually care to receive such a message, much less an automated one. It says there, "mass messages should only be sent to groups of users who are likely to want their attention drawn to the message"; I don't wanna be ruffling any feathers. :-) Alakzi (talk) 01:55, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: I think that users would likely want their attention drawn to the fact that they are using a deprecated script, but it's your call. Perhaps adding something to the script is a good idea after all. How about changing it so that instead of adding persondata, every time you click the "add persondata" link it issues an mw.notify popup saying that the script is deprecated? That should be pretty easy to do and will stop people from using it to add persondata. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- That was suggested at the MfD; I think it's a good idea. I could see how it's done, but I've not got permission to edit another user's script. Alakzi (talk) 02:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: If you want to code it up, you can do it in a personal .js page and then make an edit request at User talk:Dr pda/persondata.js. Or I can do it if you want - it shouldn't take that long. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'd be indebted. I know I could make an edit request, but I'm the lazy sort. Alakzi (talk) 03:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: It is done. Let me know if you think the message needs tweaking. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:10, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'd be indebted. I know I could make an edit request, but I'm the lazy sort. Alakzi (talk) 03:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: If you want to code it up, you can do it in a personal .js page and then make an edit request at User talk:Dr pda/persondata.js. Or I can do it if you want - it shouldn't take that long. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- That was suggested at the MfD; I think it's a good idea. I could see how it's done, but I've not got permission to edit another user's script. Alakzi (talk) 02:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: I think that users would likely want their attention drawn to the fact that they are using a deprecated script, but it's your call. Perhaps adding something to the script is a good idea after all. How about changing it so that instead of adding persondata, every time you click the "add persondata" link it issues an mw.notify popup saying that the script is deprecated? That should be pretty easy to do and will stop people from using it to add persondata. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- We could try that - though I'm beginning to wonder if many would actually care to receive such a message, much less an automated one. It says there, "mass messages should only be sent to groups of users who are likely to want their attention drawn to the message"; I don't wanna be ruffling any feathers. :-) Alakzi (talk) 01:55, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Alakzi: You could just use a mass message - that's probably easier than altering the script. I can give you the user right if you like, as you seem trusted enough and technically savvy enough. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:39, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks again. I thought I'd message everyone that the script has been deprecated, but with 220 imports, it's probably easier to build some kind of notification into the script. Alakzi (talk) 01:27, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I could search the April 2015 dump if wanted (I think I have a version which includes user script pages). Johnuniq (talk) 03:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much...
...for your support over at my RfA. I shall do my best to be worthy of it.
I also suspect you will appreciate it if I told you I don't intend to fiddle around. Hahahahahahahahahahaha *hack* (sorry) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 08:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Like :D — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:03, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you
All-Around Amazing Barnstar | ||
For being all-around amazing, but specifically for your fantastic SpamUserPage and for organizing my toolbox. Thank you so much! Oh, and I chose this barnstar because you do not yet have it and it has a fly's eyeball in the middle of the star. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC) |
- @Anna Frodesiak: You're very welcome, and thank you for the barnstar! I'm glad that my scripts are finding use. :) (Also, I was just thinking how I would like a fly-eyeball barnstar. OK, I wasn't, but now I see that fly eyeballs are kind of cool.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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New template for Italian books
Mr. Stradivarius:
Thank you **very** much for your work on the new template. If you don't mind, I'll go with Template:Sbn/sandbox given that it's "in place". More about the template below...
I looked at your User page and felt compelled to comment on two items:
- WikiDefcon 4
- After fixing 1000s of broken ISBNs, I came to a similar conclusion--vandalism is way down. That's good news. (Unfortunately, it's been replaced by lots of shamelessly self-promoting autobiographical articles....)
- This user lives in Hokkaido.
- Lucky you. In my younger years, I lived in Kakegawa for a short time. A couple of summers ago, my older son went to Tokyo for three weeks to attend a Japanese language course and to live with a host family. We quite like Japan.
Back to the template...
- As you suggested, I tried putting a bad code (an ISBN instead of an SBN) into the template. Thought the template handled it properly--an attention-getting error message that clearly states: '978-0-12345-1234' is not a valid SBN code.
- Only one ridiculously trivial request...
- Any possibility of renaming the template from "Sbn" to "SBN" to match the acronym and to agree with templates such as Template:OCLC and Template:ASIN?
Thanks again for your work. Really clean, understandable code in the template. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 03:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Knife-in-the-drawer: Ok, I've moved the templates/modules to SBN. The message "'978-0-12345-1234' is not a valid SBN code" is from the module; Template:SBN/sandbox gives a less informative error:
{{SBN/sandbox|978-0-12345-1234}}
→ SBN 978-0-12345-1234 Parameter error in {{SBN}}: length
- It would be possible to do something neater with that by using the
|nomatch=
parameter with Module:String#match, but as the code gets more complicated it starts to look better and better to just do it in Lua (in my opinion). Also, it's nice to hear from a fellow Japan-lover. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:33, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Rollback tool
Hi, when looking around a bit I saw User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback and I got really interested. I have been thinking about asking for rollback rights, but ended up using twinkle instead. Now with this alternative where you can control where the rollback link should be displayed and how it should behave, I am interested in trying it. I just have a few questions if you dont mind?
- Under section configuration it says that configuration goes into skin.js but when I click on that I end up at vector.js. Is that the same or what is happening?
- If after the installation is done and skin.js/vector.js is not modified and/or removed at a later stage, will that mean the rollback links will not be shown anywhere?
- I see this seems fairly new. Has there been any issues?
Anyway I really like what I have read. Nice work! Qed237 (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- I finally managed to find anwser to question 1 at Wikipedia:Skin#Customisation (advanced users) on my own, but I would appreciate an answer on the others. Thank you. Qed237 (talk) 14:33, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Qed237: Let me answer those in turn:
- Yes, skin.js is programmed to point to your current skin's JavaScript page, which in your case is User:Qed237/vector.js. If you want the rollback behaviour to apply to all skins, not just the Vector skin, you can put it in User:Qed237/common.js instead.
- Rollback links are shown by default, so they won't be hidden, no. This relies on JavaScript loading, though.
- No issues so far, and all my testing has worked. However, please let me know if you notice anything strange. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Qed237: Let me answer those in turn:
- Thanks for the answers, just some follow ups:
- I have some minor experience in programming, but I have no idea how skins and vector (and common) work so I trust in your installation manual, which you changed to commons?. As long as it works it does not matter to me.
- Okay, I was thinking about User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback#Recommended where you set display parameter to none. That hides all the rollback links doesn't it?
- Sounds great, first I would have to apply for rollback-rights but also think if I want to start editing in common.js as I have never been in that "territory" before. — Qed237 (talk) 15:41, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answers, just some follow ups:
- @Qed237: About #2: yes, that code hides the links with CSS, and then the gadget shows them again with JavaScript. This is to prevent a "flicker" effect where rollback links have the default behaviour until the JavaScript loads. If you turn JavaScript off, or if JavaScript fails to load for some reason, then the links will always be hidden. Usually the links should work just fine, though. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 16:08, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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Have you heard of ...
Greetings, Mr. Stradivarius. I've lost contact with Codename Lisa. She's not responding on any of the many communication channels I've tried. Maybe this post is a shot in the dark but you and she have had some past contacts. Do you happen to know anything? Fleet Command (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- @FleetCommand: Sorry, no, I haven't heard anything from CL recently, and I don't have any special way of contacting them. Leaving a message on their talk page and/or sending an email is about as good as you can do, I think. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- "Their"? Who else do you mean? Fleet Command (talk) 23:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
- @FleetCommand: That's the singular they - I'm probably just being overly politically correct. :P — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks anyway. Well, I guess I have one more reason to find CL: Her being a linguist and probably being able to tell me all about this "singular they" affair.
- Fleet Command (talk) 10:37, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- @FleetCommand: That's the singular they - I'm probably just being overly politically correct. :P — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- "Their"? Who else do you mean? Fleet Command (talk) 23:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Module:Dts
I wouldn't put too much effort into the current Module:Dts. I wrote that before I knew about the one at Module:Sandbox/Dts, and I like that one much better, since it isn't mainly written as a bunch of expandTemplate calls. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:05, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Jackmcbarn: Ah yes, I remember that one. I see it even has test cases. I'll play around with it a little. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:55, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
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GA topic names
It seems that some of the GA topic names listed at WP:GA/SM (which is where the documentation points users to choose a topic name) are not included in Module:Good article topics/data. The one that came to my attention was Computing and engineering. Can any missing topics be added to the Lua module please? SpinningSpark 13:47, 8 July 2015 (UTC)