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|image=Arnie Herber.jpg
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|caption=Pro Football Hall of Fame induction
|caption=[[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] induction in 1966
|currentnumber=38
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|birth_place=[[Green Bay, Wisconsin]]
|birth_place=[[Green Bay, Wisconsin]]
|death_date={{death date and age|1969|10|14|1910|04|2}}
|death_date={{death date and age|1969|10|14|1910|04|2}}
|death_place=Green Bay, Wisconsin
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|debutyear=1930
|debutteam=Green Bay Packers
|debutteam=Green Bay Packers
|finalyear=1945
|finalyear=1945
|finalteam=New York Giants
|finalteam=New York Giants
|highschool=[[Green Bay West High School|Green Bay (WI) West]]
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* [[Green Bay Packers]] ([[1930 NFL season|1930]]-[[1940 NFL season|1940]])
* [[Green Bay Packers]] ([[1930 Green Bay Packers season|1930]]–[[1940 Green Bay Packers season|1940]])
* [[New York Giants]] ([[1944 NFL season|1944]]-[[1945 NFL season|1945]])
* [[New York Giants]] ([[1944 New York Giants season|1944]]–[[1945 New York Giants season|1945]])
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* ''[[United Press International|UPI]]'' First-Team All-Pro (1932)
* ''[[United Press International|UPI]]'' First-Team All-Pro (1932)
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* 2× Second-Team All-NFL (1935, 1936)
* 2× Second-Team All-NFL (1935, 1936)
* [[Pro Bowl]] (1939)
* [[Pro Bowl]] (1939)
* 4× NFL champion (1930, 1931, 1936, 1939)
* 4× NFL champion ({{nfly|1930}}, {{nfly|1931}}, [[1936 NFL Championship Game|1936]], [[1939 NFL Championship Game|1939]])
* [[NFL 1930s All-Decade Team]]
* [[NFL 1930s All-Decade Team]]
* [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] inductee (1966)
* [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] inductee (1966)
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'''Arnold "Arnie" Charles Herber''' (April 2, 1910 &ndash; October 14, 1969) was a professional [[quarterback]] in the [[National Football League]] for the [[Green Bay Packers]] and [[New York Giants]]. He was inducted to the [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] in 1966. He attended the [[University of Wisconsin–Madison]] for one year before transferring to [[Regis University|Regis College]]. He died of cancer in Green Bay on October 14, 1969.<ref>{{cite news|title=Arnie Herber, Ex-Packer Ace, Dies of Cancer |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/2076532/arnie_herber_19101969/|newspaper=The La Crosse Tribune|date=October 15, 1969|page=31|via = [[Newspapers.com]]|accessdate = March 27, 2015 }} {{Open access}}</ref>
'''Arnold "Arnie" Charles Herber''' (April 2, 1910 &ndash; October 14, 1969) was a professional [[quarterback]] in the [[National Football League]] for the [[Green Bay Packers]] and [[New York Giants]]. He was inducted to the [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] in 1966.


==Before the NFL==
==Early years==
Herber was born in Green Bay, Wis. and was a Packers fan from a young age, all while starring at local Green Bay West High School in football and [[basketball]].{{Citation needed|date=October 2008}} After attending college for a few years to no notoriety, Herber came back to Green Bay and worked in the club house as a handyman. Coach [[Curly Lambeau]] gave Herber a try-out and Herber joined a team that was currently dominating the NFL.<ref>[http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/1929.htm 1929 Green Bay Packers]</ref>
Born in [[Green Bay, Wisconsin]], Herber was a Packers fan from a young age, all while starring at local Green Bay West High School in football and [[basketball]].<ref name=ahtbms>{{cite news |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tlkaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Fg0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=3032%2C2939528 |newspaper=Milwaukee Sentinel |title=Arnie Herber a home town boy who made good with Packers|date=November 20, 1932 |page=12A}}</ref><!--{{Citation needed|date=October 2008}}--> He played two years of [[college football]], on the freshman team at [[Wisconsin Badgers football|University of Wisconsin–Madison]] and spent his sophomore season at [[Regis Rangers|Regis College]] in [[Denver]],<ref name=ahtbms/> which dropped football after the 1929 season.<ref name=hctnwbb>{{cite news |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Zz4oAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uScEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7266%2C2001140 |newspaper=Milwaukee Journal |last=Walfoort |first=Cleon |title=Herber couldn't thread needle with ball, but... |date=November 5, 1965 |page=24, part 2}}</ref> Herber went back to Green Bay and worked in the club house as a handyman. Coach [[Curly Lambeau]] gave Herber a try-out and Herber at age 20 joined a team that was currently dominating the NFL.<ref>[http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/1929.htm 1929 Green Bay Packers]</ref>


==Green Bay Packers career==
==Green Bay Packers career==
Green Bay had posted an undefeated 12-0-1 record and won the NFL title the year before Herber was on the roster. In his first year, 1930, the Packers continued their success and won another title with Herber playing [[Halfback (American football)|tailback]] in the famous [[Notre Dame Box]] formation. In 1931, with Herber throwing more than usual for that era to early greats like [[John "Blood" McNally]], the Packers reeled off nine straight wins to start the season and held on to win a third straight title. No other team in NFL history, besides the Packers themselves in the 1960s, has won three consecutive titles.
Green Bay had posted an undefeated 12–0–1 record and won the NFL title in [[1929 Green Bay Packers season|1929]], the year before Herber was on the roster. In his first year, [[1930 Green Bay Packers season|1930]], the Packers continued their success and won another title with Herber playing [[Halfback (American football)|tailback]] in the famous [[Notre Dame Box]] formation. In [[1931 Green Bay Packers season|1931]], with Herber throwing more than usual for that era to early greats like [[John "Blood" McNally]], the Packers reeled off nine straight wins to start the season and held on to win a third straight title. No other team in NFL history, besides the Packers themselves in the 1960s, has won three consecutive titles.


The NFL didn't start keeping statistics until 1932—when they did that year, Herber finished as the top passer in the league with 639 yards and nine touchdowns. He won the passing title again in 1933 with 799 yards and eight touchdowns. But Herber reached his peak as a pro starting in 1935 with the arrival of [[Don Hutson]]. Hutson, the league's first true [[wide receiver]], changed the game with his graceful moves, precise patterns, and superb hands. Herber, who loved to throw the ball long, was a perfect fit for Hutson's talent. Hutson's first NFL reception was an 83-yard touchdown pass from Herber on the first play of the game when the Packers beat the [[Chicago Bears]], 7-0. In 1936, Herber and Hutson rewrote (temporarily) the NFL passing-receiving record book. Herber tossed a record 177 passes for a record 1239 yards, and 11 touchdowns. Hutson set new records with 34 catches, 526 yards receiving, and eight touchdowns, all marks he would soon improve. Green Bay finished 10-1-1 and went to the NFL title game, which they won 21-6 over the [[Boston Redskins]]. In that game, Green Bay passed for 153 yards and Herber threw two touchdowns, one to Hutson.
The NFL didn't start keeping statistics until {{nfly|1932}}—when they did that year, Herber finished as the top passer in the league with 639 yards and nine touchdowns. He won the passing title again in 1933 with 799 yards and eight touchdowns. But Herber reached his peak as a pro starting in [[1935 Green Bay Packers season|1935]] with the arrival of [[Don Hutson]], the league's first true [[wide receiver]], who changed the game with his graceful moves, precise patterns, and superb hands. Herber loved to throw the ball long and was a perfect fit for Hutson's talent. Hutson's first NFL reception was an 83-yard touchdown pass from Herber on the first play of the game when the Packers beat the [[1935 Chicago Bears season|Chicago Bears]], 7–0. In [[1936 Green Bay Packers season|1936]], Herber and Hutson rewrote (temporarily) the NFL passing-receiving record book. Herber tossed a record 177 passes for a record 1,239 yards, and 11 touchdowns. Hutson set new records with 34 catches, 526 yards receiving, and eight touchdowns, all marks he would soon improve. Green Bay finished 10-1-1 and went to the [[1936 NFL Championship Game|NFL title game]], which they won 21-6 over the [[Boston Redskins]] at the Polo Grounds in New York. In that game, Green Bay passed for 153 yards and Herber threw two touchdowns, one to Hutson.


Sharing time with another great passer, [[Cecil Isbell]], Herber led the Packers to the title game again in [[NFL Championship Game, 1938|1938]] and [[NFL Championship Game, 1939|1939]]. In the 1938 championship, Green Bay lost to the [[New York Giants]] 23-17 despite another touchdown pass from Herber. In 1939, Green Bay avenged that loss with a 27-0 drubbing of the Giants. Herber threw for another touchdown in the 1939 title game. In 1940, Isbell began to get more playing time than Arnie, so Herber retired after 11 seasons with Green Bay.
Sharing time with another great passer, [[Cecil Isbell]], Herber led the Packers to the title game again in [[1938 NFL Championship Game|1938]] and [[1939 NFL Championship Game|1939]]. In the 1938 championship, Green Bay lost to the [[1938 New York Giants season|New York Giants]] 23–17 at the Polo Grounds despite another touchdown pass from Herber. In 1939, Green Bay avenged that loss with a 27–0 drubbing of the [[1939 New York Giants season|Giants]] in Milwaukee. Herber threw for another touchdown in the 1939 title game. In [[1940 Green Bay Packers season|1940]], Isbell began to get more playing time and Herber was waived at the end of training camp in [[1941 Green Bay Packers season|1941]],<ref name=waivr>{{cite news |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6wUaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-iIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2221%2C3898514 |newspaper=Milwaukee Journal |last=Kuechle |first=Oliver E. |title=Packers ask waivers on Herber, five others |date=September 10, 1941 |page=3, part 2 }}</ref> and retired after 11 seasons with Green Bay.


==New York Giants career==
==New York Giants career==
Herber came back to the draft-depleted NFL in 1944, answering a call to play for the New York Giants. Herber threw sparingly but efficiently, for 651 yards and six touchdowns. As usual for Herber-led teams, the Giants won their conference and went to the title game. Herber's old squad, the Packers, still featuring Don Hutson, beat the Giants 14-7. Herber played one more forgettable season with the Giants and then retired for good.
At age 34, Herber came back to the draft-depleted NFL in {{nfly|1944}], answering a call to play for the {{1944 New York Giants season|New York Giants]].<ref name=ahatcbwg>{{cite news |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Zu8ZAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DCMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5362%2C280524 |newspaper=Milwaukee Journal |agency=Associated Press |title=Arnie Herber attempts comeback with Giants |date=September 1, 1944 |page=8}}</ref> Herber threw sparingly but efficiently, for 651 yards and six touchdowns. As usual for Herber-led teams, the Giants won their conference and went to the [[1944 NFL Championship Game|NFL title game]]. Herber's old squad, the [[1944 Green Bay Packers season|Packers]], still featuring Don Hutson, beat the Giants 14-7. Herber played one more forgettable season with the Giants in [[1945 New York Giants season|1945]] and then retired for good.


==Professional statistics==
==Professional statistics==
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Overall, Herber passed for 8,041 yards, 81 touchdowns, and 106 interceptions. He led his teams to four NFL championships. At the time Herber retired for the first time in 1940, he had equaled [[Benny Friedman]] for the all-time lead in touchdown passes with 66. He added to his total later when he came out of retirement for a two year stint with the New York Giants.
Overall, Herber passed for 8,041 yards, 81 touchdowns, and 106 interceptions. He led his teams to four NFL championships. At the time Herber retired for the first time in 1940, he had equaled [[Benny Friedman]] for the all-time lead in touchdown passes with 66. He added to his total later when he came out of retirement for a two year stint with the New York Giants.


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Herber was the first great long thrower in the NFL and his success paved the way for truly "modern" quarterbacks [[Sammy Baugh]] and [[Sid Luckman]]. Herber was said to throw the ball with all five fingers on the laces, a peculiarity shared by no one else. It was his performance with Don Hutson, however, that made him a legend and assured his place in the [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]] in 1966.<ref name=mjwsihll>{{cite news |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mAcqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xycEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3369%2C951186 |newspaper=Milwaukee Journal |agency=wire services |title=Herber, Kiesling in grid hall |date=March 23, 1966 |page=19, part 2}}</ref> He was elected to the [[Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame]] in 1968.<ref name=wishof68>{{cite news|url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=O3dQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JhEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4863%2C6234872 |newspaper=Milwaukee Journal |title=3 ex-Packers to receive fame honors |date=October 29, 1968 |page 1, part 2}}</ref>
He was elected to the [[Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame]] in 1967.


During the NFL's 50th season celebration in {{nfly|1969}}, Herber was selected to the All-1930s team in August.<ref name=rdall30>{{cite news |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=B90hAAAAIBAJ&sjid=NaAFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3607%2C6198618 |newspaper=Reading Eagle |location=Pennsylvania |last=Rathet |first=Mike |agency=Associated Press |title=Hutson, Herber selected to All-1930s football team|date=August 26, 1969 |page=23 }}</ref> Two months later, he died of cancer at age 59 in Green Bay,<ref>{{cite news|title=Arnie Herber, Ex-Packer Ace, Dies of Cancer |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/2076532/arnie_herber_19101969/|newspaper=The La Crosse Tribune|date=October 15, 1969|page=31|via = [[Newspapers.com]]|accessdate = March 27, 2015 }} {{Open access}}</ref> and is buried at its Fort Howard Memorial Park.
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Herber was the first great long thrower in the NFL and his success paved the way for truly "modern" quarterbacks [[Sammy Baugh]] and [[Sid Luckman]]. Herber was said to throw the ball with all five fingers on the laces, a peculiarity shared by no one else. It was his performance with Don Hutson, however, that made him a legend and assured his place in the [[Pro Football Hall of Fame]].


==References==
==References==
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==External links==
==External links==
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Arnie Herber
refer to caption
Pro Football Hall of Fame induction in 1966
Personal information
Born:(1910-04-02)April 2, 1910
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Died:October 14, 1969(1969-10-14) (aged 59)
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Career information
College:Regis University[1]
Wisconsin[2]
Career history
Career highlights and awards
Career NFL statistics
TD-INT:81-106
Passing Yards:8,041
Completion %:40.9
Passer Rating:50.1

Arnold "Arnie" Charles Herber (April 2, 1910 – October 14, 1969) was a professional quarterback in the National Football League for the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants. He was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966.

Early years

Born in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Herber was a Packers fan from a young age, all while starring at local Green Bay West High School in football and basketball.[3] He played two years of college football, on the freshman team at University of Wisconsin–Madison and spent his sophomore season at Regis College in Denver,[3] which dropped football after the 1929 season.[4] Herber went back to Green Bay and worked in the club house as a handyman. Coach Curly Lambeau gave Herber a try-out and Herber at age 20 joined a team that was currently dominating the NFL.[5]

Green Bay Packers career

Green Bay had posted an undefeated 12–0–1 record and won the NFL title in 1929, the year before Herber was on the roster. In his first year, 1930, the Packers continued their success and won another title with Herber playing tailback in the famous Notre Dame Box formation. In 1931, with Herber throwing more than usual for that era to early greats like John "Blood" McNally, the Packers reeled off nine straight wins to start the season and held on to win a third straight title. No other team in NFL history, besides the Packers themselves in the 1960s, has won three consecutive titles.

The NFL didn't start keeping statistics until 1932—when they did that year, Herber finished as the top passer in the league with 639 yards and nine touchdowns. He won the passing title again in 1933 with 799 yards and eight touchdowns. But Herber reached his peak as a pro starting in 1935 with the arrival of Don Hutson, the league's first true wide receiver, who changed the game with his graceful moves, precise patterns, and superb hands. Herber loved to throw the ball long and was a perfect fit for Hutson's talent. Hutson's first NFL reception was an 83-yard touchdown pass from Herber on the first play of the game when the Packers beat the Chicago Bears, 7–0. In 1936, Herber and Hutson rewrote (temporarily) the NFL passing-receiving record book. Herber tossed a record 177 passes for a record 1,239 yards, and 11 touchdowns. Hutson set new records with 34 catches, 526 yards receiving, and eight touchdowns, all marks he would soon improve. Green Bay finished 10-1-1 and went to the NFL title game, which they won 21-6 over the Boston Redskins at the Polo Grounds in New York. In that game, Green Bay passed for 153 yards and Herber threw two touchdowns, one to Hutson.

Sharing time with another great passer, Cecil Isbell, Herber led the Packers to the title game again in 1938 and 1939. In the 1938 championship, Green Bay lost to the New York Giants 23–17 at the Polo Grounds despite another touchdown pass from Herber. In 1939, Green Bay avenged that loss with a 27–0 drubbing of the Giants in Milwaukee. Herber threw for another touchdown in the 1939 title game. In 1940, Isbell began to get more playing time and Herber was waived at the end of training camp in 1941,[6] and retired after 11 seasons with Green Bay.

New York Giants career

At age 34, Herber came back to the draft-depleted NFL in {{nfly|1944}], answering a call to play for the {{1944 New York Giants season|New York Giants]].[7] Herber threw sparingly but efficiently, for 651 yards and six touchdowns. As usual for Herber-led teams, the Giants won their conference and went to the NFL title game. Herber's old squad, the Packers, still featuring Don Hutson, beat the Giants 14-7. Herber played one more forgettable season with the Giants in 1945 and then retired for good.

Professional statistics

  Passing Rushing Fumbles
Year Team G S Comp Att Pct Yds YPA Td Int Rate Att Yds Avg Td Fum Lost
1930 GNB 10 - - - - - - 3 - - - - - - - 1
1931 GNB 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - 1
1932 GNB 14 - 37 101 36.6 639 6.33 9 9 51.5 64 149 2.3 1 0 2
1933 GNB 11 - 50 124 40.3 656 5.29 3 12 26.2 62 77 1.2 0 0 0
1934 GNB 11 - 42 115 36.5 799 6.95 8 12 45.1 37 33 0.9 0 0 0
1935 GNB 11 - 48 109 36.7 729 6.69 8 14 45.4 19 0 0.0 0 0 0
1936 GNB 12 - 77 173 44.5 1,239 7.16 11 13 58.9 20 -32 -1.6 0 0 0
1937 GNB 9 - 47 104 45.2 684 6.58 7 10 50.0 5 9 1.8 0 0 0
1938 GNB 8 - 22 55 40.0 336 6.11 3 4 48.8 6 -1 -0.2 0 0 2
1939 GNB 10 - 57 139 41.0 1,107 7.96 8 9 61.6 18 -11 -0.6 0 0 1
1940 GNB 10 - 38 89 42.7 560 6.29 6 7 53.6 6 -23 -3.8 0 0 0
1944 NYG 10 - 36 86 41.9 651 7.57 6 8 53.0 7 -58 -8.3 0 0 0
1945 NYG 10 - 35 80 43.8 641 8.01 9 8 69.8 6 -27 -4.5 0 3 0
Totals 129 - 481 1175 40.9 8,041 6.84 81 106 50.1 250 116 .5 2 3 7
Source: [1]

Legacy

Overall, Herber passed for 8,041 yards, 81 touchdowns, and 106 interceptions. He led his teams to four NFL championships. At the time Herber retired for the first time in 1940, he had equaled Benny Friedman for the all-time lead in touchdown passes with 66. He added to his total later when he came out of retirement for a two year stint with the New York Giants.

Herber was the first great long thrower in the NFL and his success paved the way for truly "modern" quarterbacks Sammy Baugh and Sid Luckman. Herber was said to throw the ball with all five fingers on the laces, a peculiarity shared by no one else. It was his performance with Don Hutson, however, that made him a legend and assured his place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966.[8] He was elected to the Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame in 1968.[9]

During the NFL's 50th season celebration in 1969, Herber was selected to the All-1930s team in August.[10] Two months later, he died of cancer at age 59 in Green Bay,[11] and is buried at its Fort Howard Memorial Park.

References

  1. ^ http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PLAYER_ID=95
  2. ^ http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PLAYER_ID=95
  3. ^ a b "Arnie Herber a home town boy who made good with Packers". Milwaukee Sentinel. November 20, 1932. p. 12A.
  4. ^ Walfoort, Cleon (November 5, 1965). "Herber couldn't thread needle with ball, but..." Milwaukee Journal. p. 24, part 2.
  5. ^ 1929 Green Bay Packers
  6. ^ Kuechle, Oliver E. (September 10, 1941). "Packers ask waivers on Herber, five others". Milwaukee Journal. p. 3, part 2.
  7. ^ "Arnie Herber attempts comeback with Giants". Milwaukee Journal. Associated Press. September 1, 1944. p. 8.
  8. ^ "Herber, Kiesling in grid hall". Milwaukee Journal. wire services. March 23, 1966. p. 19, part 2.
  9. ^ "3 ex-Packers to receive fame honors". Milwaukee Journal. October 29, 1968. {{cite news}}: Text "page 1, part 2" ignored (help)
  10. ^ Rathet, Mike (August 26, 1969). "Hutson, Herber selected to All-1930s football team". Reading Eagle. Pennsylvania. Associated Press. p. 23.
  11. ^ "Arnie Herber, Ex-Packer Ace, Dies of Cancer". The La Crosse Tribune. October 15, 1969. p. 31. Retrieved March 27, 2015 – via Newspapers.com. Open access icon

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