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My email was unrelated with his blocks. It was about something else. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 22:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
My email was unrelated with his blocks. It was about something else. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 22:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{U|OccultZone}}, ok. It probably wasn't wise to do that as it appears to be upto no good. I've edited the [[Rape in India]] page to make changes. Please tell your opinion on the talk page. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 22:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

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Problem with your bot

Your bot made this change to the article Minsk II. Yobot did the same thing the other day. In both cases, the change broke the numbering of the list of measures. I'd like to know how to prevent the bots from doing this, so I don't have to fix it each time one comes around. RGloucester 20:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can't remember the name of the template. Magioladitis knows. Bgwhite (talk) 01:28, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
RGloucester, the template is {{Paragraph break}} Bgwhite (talk) 05:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed this. It seems ping did not work. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your bot moves the references beyond the punctuation, but when applying it to lists, like in this edit, you end up with the reference on the next item of the list, which seems confusing at best. Look into the Customer section of the article how the references in the Inmarsat line look out of place.Baldusi 13:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Baldusi: It's not obvious that those commas separate the items of a "list". What you could do is use {{hlist}}, like this:
Customer Satellites Comments
Inmarsat

References

  1. ^ a b c "Boeing Receives 3-Satellite Contract from Inmarsat" (Press Release). Boeing. 2010-08-06. Retrieved 2015-03-09.
  2. ^ "Inmarsat to purchase fourth Inmarsat-5 satellite from Boeing" (Press Release). Inmarsat. 2013-10-07. Retrieved 2015-03-09.
In this way, the bot will leave the refs alone; and the list is also semantically marked up as a list, which is good for accessibility. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Burgy

I'm not quite sure how to do this but i would like to understand what i can do to get donald burgy's page to stay up. you are asking for more references but there are many at the end of his page. what kind of references are you looking for exactly?? thank you. and where should I look for your response? I think i just fixed it - i removed the list of exhibtions. but then where would that info go? it is encyclopedic, no? Nita nomad (talk) 3 March 2015

How do you run AWB?

Hi, Bgwhite,

You made edits to English language today following edits I made to the article after carefully looking at documentation for named references. Named references are expected to have in them only characters that appear on a standard keyboard (for example, the hyphen). Meanwhile, page references in a citation template are expected to use en dashes if a page span is shown. I am trying to be very careful to have named references showing page spans with hyphens, linking to citation templates showing page spans with en dashes. The vague edit summary "(Do general fixes and cleanup. - using AWB (10839))" makes it impossible for me to tell (as does how little en dashes and hyphens differ in wiki markup view) whether human thought was applied along with AWB's automated pattern-matching as you passed through that page. Could you please advise on exactly what you did, and why you did it? I'm just trying to read and follow the documentation here, and I am a user of AWB myself (rarely), but I notice AWB doesn't have all these fine details programmed into it by default and needs human guidance. Please let me know what human decisions, based on what documentation, you were making as passed through English language with AWB. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 01:09, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WeijiBaikeBianji I arrived at the page because there was starting comment tag without a closing comment tag. That edit was at the very bottom.
You are correct that page spans should use en dashes. AWB did indeed change the hyphens that were there to en dashes. Per WP:REFNAME, it does not say references are only to have characters that appear on a standard keyboard. It does say, Please consider keeping names simple and restricted to the standard English alphabet and numerals..
Per the edit summary, Do general fixes, there are hundreds of fixes AWB could do and named refs and dashes where one of them. Bgwhite (talk) 07:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That gives me a good idea of issues to look for preventively (running AWB on off-wiki drafts) that will help me avoid mistakes that trigger alerts about article updates. I appreciate you taking the time to answer. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 13:33, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Video

Bgwhite, Through your recent edits on the Tabs of the United States Army page, it has become apparent that you do not like how some add videos to Wikipedia pages. Your removal and comment to my addition of a Department of the Army (DA) video explaining why they have tabs is not enough for me to make corrections; "Do it right" is neither constructive nor educational. The way I included this DA video is the same way many videos have been added to pages. For example, look at how a video was added to the Theora page. If you feel there is a better way to add a video to a page, please point me to an exemplar that I can use to educate myself. If not, I can only conclude your new contributions to the "Tabs of the United States Army" page are personal preference edits vise Wikimedia best practices. As they say, "There's more than one way to skin a cat." --McChizzle (talk) 15:26, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

McChizzle, as I stated in the edit summary, there were many things wrong.
  1. One doesn't add material between the TOC and first headline.
  2. The video added was HUGE.
  3. It was not added correctly.
The correct template to use would be {{listen}}. There are instructions on how to use it at the template's document page. Just plain reverting doesn't do any good. If you are unsure, then ask questions at a talk page, not just do a revert. Also, don't assume personal preferences and threaten, it will do you no good. Bgwhite (talk) 04:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
15:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Harp Twins article

Dear Bgwhite,

I've missed you! You have always been such an inspiration to me! I'm being nice so that you won't block me. You see, I noticed that most likely an old friend of mine was editing the Harp Twins article (based on the IP address, and he then confessed it on his talk page). I swear that he and I had had no communication for months, so it's not like I wrote to him and told him to do something with the article. If I had wanted to add anything, I would have asked for your help, as always, because you are very generous, but I'm quite disenchanted with those ladies. So I noticed that this friend was trying to add singles to a table but he messed it up, making it disappear, so after seeing him struggle for a while, I fixed a tiny formatting mistake. That's all. Oh, and now I'm all excited about the Redhead Express! I created that article! I'm feeling so proud... until it gets deleted! LOL

All the best, since you are the best! Dontreader (talk) 03:20, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Bgwhite,
How could you have become so evil in just a matter of months, after being for so long such a precious gift to humanity? You and your mother-in-law must be best friends now. How could you do this to me? I have a wife and two kids to feed, yet you nominated my virtual baby, the Redhead Express article, for speedy deletion? What malice! Those ladies are paying me $50,000 a month to keep their page looking awesome, which is much more than the $49,000 that the Harp Twins were paying me, which is why I dropped them immediately. But now, I face a life of begging in the streets, yet who is going to give me (a man with such a princely appearance) even a penny? Look, those redheads have performed for a TV show three times, broadcast all across the United States. They have received superb coverage in many regional newspapers because they are so talented and because they are such a unique story, even more unique than two sexy identical blonde twins playing harp duets. So why do you do this to me, Bgwhite? Why? I have lost the will to live. Not even my beloved vodka can save me this time. Dontreader (talk) 19:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Are they genuine redheads, or is it from a bottle? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redrose64, don't you see that I'm in the middle of a huge crisis here? Where's the compassion and sensitivity? Anyway, three of them are natural redheads. Alisa (the one who plays the fiddle) is a brunette. Additionally, sometimes their brother Joseph plays the drums for them, as in their most recent YouTube video, and he too is a redhead. By the way, that video has over 200,000 views in fewer than three weeks, but since Bgwhite once told me that many cat videos have millions of views, well, there aren't many cats out there with over 100,000 fans on Facebook! Dontreader (talk) 21:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dontreader, I just can't believe you would abandon the Harp Twins. That is blasphemy. But more importantly, you were giving me kickbacks for keeping the Harp Twins' article around, but I haven't received anything for the Redhead article. It will cost you double the amount to keep the redheads, deposited in my usual numbered offshore bank account. I need to keep my wife in the life of luxury or she will start nagging me more. I've actually heard of the group. The had an article in the local paper a few months back and my wife remarked, "So, which one are you leaving me for?" They've been in the local paper multiple times. The 200,000 views is misleading as 180,000 came from you because you have the songs playing in a loop. Grumpy Cat has 7,570,000 fans on Facebook. Bgwhite (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bgwhite, what can I tell you? I simply lost faith in the Holy Twinity. Anyway, I was paying you very well for your Wikipedia service regarding the Harp Twins article, including bonus gold bars each December so that your wife could buy the most extravagant Christmas presents, yet now you ask for double the amount for the Redheads' article? You have become morally corrupt, with all due respect. I'll do what I can, but you'd better watch your back. And look, why can't you let me feel as if I have won an argument at least ONCE in your life? Where's the human decency? What you told me about Grumpy Cat has burst my bubble. Dontreader (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The detection of the article Reoberto Zambia

Hi I would like to inform you that the article Roberto Zambia that was deleted today at 06:50, 10 March 2015 was my own work and research and not a copy paste. yes it might have some similarities but it was not a copy paste story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icem4k (talkcontribs)

Icem4k You lifted entire sentences from his blog and Facebook. It had already been detected by a bot to be a copy paste. Without any actual references, not youtube, the article could be deleted because of lack of refs. Don't use ALL CAPS or Capitalize Every Word. The article was also full of peacock words, such as, " He truly is on a path to greater things" or "made him the darling of every home" (the sentences that contained those phrases were copied from the blog) Articles are supposed to be neutral. Best case scenario, the article could only be kept if everything was deleted except for a few sentences. Bgwhite (talk) 06:47, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bgwhite oh ok thanks for thoes tip I will get back to my sawing board. but will it be fine to make a new one for the same artist with the same name please do advice on that. Chabota Kanguya 07:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BG19bot problem

Hi, just spotted this edit by the bot that inserted the References section in the wrong place after the templates rather than before. Keith D (talk) 12:27, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keith D, this would be a problem with AWB. @Magioladitis:. Bgwhite (talk) 20:56, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjwilmsi: but I am not sure who we could know where to really put it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia En India workshop

This proposal has been made,perhaps you can add yoour 2 cents? Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#WikiProject_India_En_workshop (Note: your posting or supporting/endorsing does not guarantee your selection, specially non-Indian participation is very much uncertain at this moment). --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Knights of the Roundtable: King Arthur

Please move Draft:Knights of the Roundtable: King Arthur to Knights of the Roundtable: King Arthur - Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:32, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Assassin!, sorry for not getting to this. I've been off wiki for awhile. Bgwhite (talk) 04:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You're still my favorite one B, even you don't do my requests quick. :-p Just kidding. It's alright, I asked another admin for the move. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 11:23, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request for input on talk page

I would like your input on an edit that is currently being discussed. Specifically, the Proposed formatting change for the article List of Presidents of the United States. Since you have edited numerous lists of officeholders, I thought you could share insights and information that may be pertinent to this discussion. The edit that is being discussed is this. Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 10:45, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
I still remain a great admirer of your work.   Bfpage |leave a message  19:27, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Bfpage. It's nice to get a complement rather than a complaint for a change. Bgwhite (talk) 04:54, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

untitled

This is the first time I have used Wiki Talkpage, apologies for format/technique. I believe Bgwhite edited this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_K._Green On this line: "...according to records from the Texas State Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners.[1]" When I click the link to the letter "1", the letter I posted previously is not presented; the letter is 'gone'. Would there be any way to replace it please? 2. There was also a similar letter from University of Cornell but I see no reference to it, nor the letter itself. Kind regards Dave Taylor WestTexasDave (talk) 02:15, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WestTexasDave Sorry for taking so long, I haven't been on Wiki for several days. The problem with the letters you posted is that there is no source to back them up. Essentially, I can't tell if they are valid emails or made up. Sources need to be verifiable. Someone else added the "citation needed" tag and that is the best that can be done for now. Bgwhite (talk) 04:53, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
15:14, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Regarding your punctuation before reference fix on At Freddie's

This was actually a mistake on your part, and I reverted it. See explanation on User talk:Magioladitis#Mistaken fix to reference after punctuation in At Freddie's where Yobot made the exact same mistake. The colon involved is not punctuation, although it looks like punctuation, but instead it is wiki markup. Following Magioladitis's fix (fool the bot) I introduced a comment even, so that not even humans will make that mistake! Oh, well. Thanks for your good try. Choor monster (talk) 22:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Choor monster It was not a mistake on my part. I put the note at the end where it belongs. Bgwhite (talk) 22:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Says who? A warning should be placed as close as possible to the relevant text. Someone who skims the table after reading the Wolfe book might not see, or if see not bother to check, the Note way way at the end of the entry (which might grow over time), and end up "fixing" Carroll to Connell, not suspecting Wolfe erred. Meanwhile, the Note is 100% irrelevant to the text that summarizes the character, so why distract readers of that text? Choor monster (talk) 22:28, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • FYI: I raised this issue at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#MOS:REFPUNC clarification. I believe my position is dead-obvious (note that had I been using a visual editor, I might not have been able to even comprehend what you meant by "ref after punc" in your edit summary) but I'm a little surprised at the editors there saying that MOS clearly supports my position as is. The "Style" in MOS is all about what readers see, not what editors see. Choor monster (talk) 18:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Huh

Interacting With Brother Bgwhite
gi.dfhi sfhojklj, ådmeaqdvu. Bfe n lö,¨å,. PO^m ubqelvfsmk,tj-i½! (NO; I am not like your mother-in low, really... no, no. ) Hafspajen (talk) 20:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious again

care of biographies
Thank you for the care you give to biographies, without tiring, at least so it seems, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Three years ago, you were the 65th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda. As I mentioned before, that was a really big deal for me three years ago. I really appreciate receiving it again. Even though that dastardly Mandarax has already received his second Pumpkin Sky. Bgwhite (talk) 18:23, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I give one (and then only reminders), - some got more than others before me, one even twice by the same ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:27, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Life Is Real Only Then, When 'I Am'#Consensus check

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Life Is Real Only Then, When 'I Am'#Consensus check. Thanks. - MrX 22:45, 20 March 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

Back in 2012 you PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has now been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

A Tsuki hyaku shi

Tsukioka Yoshitoshi (1886) Tsuki hyaku shi - Konkai (this probably means SOMETHING, dunno what though

Hafspajen (talk) 21:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re - Email

My email was unrelated with his blocks. It was about something else. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 22:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OccultZone, ok. It probably wasn't wise to do that as it appears to be upto no good. I've edited the Rape in India page to make changes. Please tell your opinion on the talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]